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Do Gun Turn-In Programs Prevent Shootings?(Chicago)
cbso2chicago ^ | 13 August, 2009 | Mike Flannery

Posted on 08/15/2009 9:48:41 AM PDT by marktwain

While a teen struggles to survive a shooting, the city tries to get guns off the streets. But do gun turn-in programs really work? Taccara Swain, 15, was shot in the head three times Wednesday night. Police say she is an innocent victim who was trying to shield a young relative from the bullets.

It's this kind of tragedy the city of Chicago is trying to stop with a gun turn-in program this weekend. But are events like that effective? CBS 2 Political Editor Mike Flannery reports that the continuing carnage in our streets suggests otherwise.

That 15-year old was reportedly caught in gang crossfire. As long as gangs control hundreds of millions of dollars by selling illegal narcotics here, they'll always be able to buy big firepower.

Illinois Gun Works Owner Don Mastrianni claims that Chicago's program to clear its street of guns by offering to buy them and melt them down has probably not prevented even one killing.

"Criminals aren't going to bring in their guns," Mastrianni said.

When asked if any murders have been prevented, Mastrianni said, "No. Not at all. Not in the least."

Mayor Daley today announced a new version of his long-running gun-buying program. This weekend, those who turn in weapons will receive debit cards worth up to $100 in exchange for an assault-type weapon.

"Now think of that. Here's the mayor of the city of Chicago asking people to turn in assault weapons," Mayor Daley said. "We're not in Iraq. We're not in Afghanistan. We're in America. We're asking 'em to turn in assault weapons. What do we need an assault weapon in America for?"

Among those who doubt that Daley's decades of gun-control efforts have made Chicagoans any safer: a police officer. He talked to CBS 2's Kristyn Hartman at the scene of yesterday's gang crossfire that left an innocent 15-year old girl critically wounded.

When asked if gun control would keep guns away, Officer David Montgomery said, "No, 'cause the underground market. You can always get the guns. There's the underground market out there. What can you do about it?"

One thing not worth doing, according to Mastrianni, is buying old weapons off the street.

"They're not really solving any crimes, and they're not really preventing anything. They may think they are. And I feel for them, because I believe they're frustrated," Mastrianni said.

Frustrated doesn't begin to describe Daley's mood in the face of all the gun violence. He bragged today that, since 2005, the city's gun-buying program has led to the destruction of more than 18,000 guns. Still, that's small comfort to the thousands of Chicagoans who continue to get shot each year.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: awhellnaw; banglist; chicago; gun; il
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These buyups of widow's guns are motivated only by ideological fanaticism. They make no sense at all, except to make propagad in a strange ritual that shows inanimate objects as evil.
1 posted on 08/15/2009 9:48:42 AM PDT by marktwain
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... and the cops add to their personal gun collections ...


2 posted on 08/15/2009 9:50:28 AM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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DO BEARS PREVENT FORREST FIRES?


3 posted on 08/15/2009 9:52:43 AM PDT by Doogle (HIRE AMERICANS......or face boycott (please feel free to use the same tag line))
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Chicago is one of the most heavily gun-controlled places in the country, and it's one of the most violent. If the “community organizers” that run the place really cared about the citizens, they let them defend themselves.

But, that's not who they care about at all.

4 posted on 08/15/2009 9:54:18 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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He is especially stressed these days, it seems some Obama voters have taken to prowling the Lincoln Park neighborhood to committ assault and robbery on pedestrians. This is serious business alot of white libs live there, and they do not want to have to move back to the North Shore to be safe in their undying proclamations of love for liberalism, and they would take a bath on the resale. So Dick Daley is grasping at straws while another Democratic city implodes, soon to be the New Detroit. I expect one day to wake up and see smoke in the East as Chicago burns and the refugees stream out to my burb.


5 posted on 08/15/2009 9:54:43 AM PDT by junta (Conservatives, the word "racism" is now ours.)
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Innocent victim shot three times in head...trying to shield a young relative from the bullets. Wait a second.

A three shot group into an area the size of a head takes a lot of attention even at point blank range. And when a head is hit by bullets, it tends to move, being connected to the body. This tells me that unless she was lying down, somebody very intentionally shot her from a short distance away, and continued to aim and shoot her after she moved.

Something is very wrong with this story.


6 posted on 08/15/2009 10:00:24 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Do Gun Turn-In Programs Prevent Shootings?(Chicago)

Of course they do, they keep grandma from shooting the thugs breaking into her house a week after she turned her only gun in.

(FR is verrrrrry slow today.)

7 posted on 08/15/2009 10:16:49 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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A three shot group into an area the size of a head takes a lot of attention even at point blank range. And when a head is hit by bullets, it tends to move, being connected to the body. This tells me that unless she was lying down, somebody very intentionally shot her from a short distance away, and continued to aim and shoot her after she moved.


Good catch. Obviously more here than meets the reporters pen.


8 posted on 08/15/2009 10:20:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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hey when you can take a gas pipe in and a 2x4 and make it look like a gun and some dufas gives you $100.00 that a good deal!


9 posted on 08/15/2009 10:21:50 AM PDT by jrd
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Boortz did a study of the stats for gun buy backs and found that it takes 65,000 guns to prevent ONE gun-related death.
Hardly cost effective, especially sinct THAT death — as are MOST of them — is almost certainly drug or gang related folks offing one another.

I’d say THAT comes under the heading of a public service.


10 posted on 08/15/2009 10:27:48 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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In Chicago shootings have a cause other than firearms.


11 posted on 08/15/2009 10:28:28 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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Innocent victim shot three times in head...trying to shield a young relative from the bullets. Wait a second.

Perhaps multiple shooters firing at the same time?

Whatever. It's a moot point. Witnesses to these types of crimes always leave out details, if they speak to detectives at all.

12 posted on 08/15/2009 10:35:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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I knew a guy who used to buy the chinese air guns that looked like AK’s . He’d get them wholesale for 15 dollars each, and take them to the gun buy backs. The people running the programs didn’t know the difference!


15 posted on 08/15/2009 10:37:38 AM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Inflation is for trying to fix broken bubbles, apparently)
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16 posted on 08/15/2009 10:45:00 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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"Do Gun Turn-In Programs Prevent Shootings?(Chicago)"

IMHO, I would think it depends TOTALLY on what kind of example the "organizers" and leaders promoting the program set.


17 posted on 08/15/2009 10:45:11 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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These gun buyback programs were the forerunners of cash for clunkers. Gun buybacks provided the illegal gun owner with a nice down payment on a newer and deadlier model.


18 posted on 08/15/2009 10:51:50 AM PDT by Will88
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Do gun buyups rob individuals? Is giving $20 or a movie ticket for a $1000 gun fair? Why not a free class on how to handle a gun by the cops to serve us and protect us? Why not go after criminals and not law abiding citizens?
19 posted on 08/15/2009 11:18:19 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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"Do Gun Turn-In Programs Prevent Shootings?"


20 posted on 08/15/2009 11:26:33 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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