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To: rhema; SoftballMominVA; Amelia; metmom; wintertime

Look, I realize that lots of folks on Free Republic hate the public schools -— but this is such biased crap as to be beyond belief. This kind of BS is why FReepers are often called whackos, because too many fall for this crap.

My daughter starts 6th grade next month in a public school in Virginia, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in the “family life” classes she has had has come anywhere near what this author is implying.


19 posted on 08/10/2009 10:58:06 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

You know I don’t hate public schools, but it really depends on where you are.

Here in Detroit, this stuff does go on.

We walk with public school friends in the summer. That mom told me about this stuff. She was shocked and now knows of a couple moms who want to homeschool so “Can you talk to them?”

It really depends on each district. Here, North of Detroit, this stuff is true.


23 posted on 08/10/2009 11:08:51 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Gabz

Gabz, i assure you this DOES go on in public schools in VA, albeit not in your part of the state. i understand that you try to counteract the kneejerk public school bashing on FR, but this stuff is neither imagined nor exaggerated. you cannot hold up the eastern shore as proof that it isn’t happening. as you know there have been lawsuits in Montgomery Co. MD and in NoVA as well.


25 posted on 08/10/2009 11:12:58 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Gabz

Well, she’s lucky she doesn’t go to school in Montgomery County, MD.

Check out “detective’s” post above.


26 posted on 08/10/2009 11:20:01 AM PDT by goldi (')
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To: Gabz
and btw, how can you possibly refer to this as "biased crap?" Rebecca Hagelin lives here in the DC area, and is a well respected conservative columnist. And Dr. Grossman is extremely impressive. They are not pulling this stuff out of their behind, it is going on.
30 posted on 08/10/2009 11:24:53 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Gabz
Look, I realize that lots of folks on Free Republic hate the public schools -— but this is such biased crap as to be beyond belief. This kind of BS is why FReepers are often called whackos, because too many fall for this crap. My daughter starts 6th grade next month in a public school in Virginia, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in the “family life” classes she has had has come anywhere near what this author is implying.

The writer isn't stating that every school district is using the Planned Parenthood-recommended materials, which are nothing short of salacious. (The author gives examples in her book's introduction.) She advocates reading the book, checking your district's sex ed curriculum, and deciding if there's anything to be alarmed about.

I taught in public schools, big city and suburban, for 30 years. In one of the suburban schools, I witnessed a protracted community uproar over the sex ed curriculum, which was modified considerably after the uproar.

31 posted on 08/10/2009 11:24:53 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Gabz

It depends on the parents and the district.

It doesn’t happen in our district either but it’s not for lack of trying.

Some new progressive teacher did try it once.

Once......

And that was the end of that.

So, technically, I have to say that this kind of sex ed isn’t happening in our district, but again, it isn’t for lack of trying. It would be if the parents hadn’t spoken up and the administration didn’t listen to them.


43 posted on 08/10/2009 11:48:49 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Gabz

Go to www.positive.org and see where the tentacles lead you to.

A just say yes campaign is not “crap” and paranoia.


53 posted on 08/10/2009 12:17:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Gabz
It is impossible for any sentient person to be religion-free. It is also impossible for any school to be religion free. Why? Reason: It is impossible to have a philosophic vacuum. Religion, being impossible to prove scientifically, is entirely based upon belief. Only three states exist: God exists, God does not exist, or one is not sure. Each philosophic state is a religious belief since none can be proven to be true or false.

Therefore:

ALL government schools in this nation are by law **godless** in their philosophic worldview. All subject matter is taught as though god does not exist. This has profoundly non-neutral religious consequences for the students and for the parents who must deal with these consequences when the children come home from school.

So....Yes, I am very much against government schooling because it is **impossible** for government schools to be religiously, politically, or culturally neutral. The government **forces** the taxpayer to pay for a religious worldview that is abhorrent to many. For those who can not afford the extra cost of private or home schooling, the government forces attendance in it religiously non-neutral and atheistic institutions. However... if the government were to sponsor schools with a God-centered worldview, that, as well, would be abhorrent to many and have just as many non-neutral religious consequences.

Yes, I strongly object to government K-12 schools because they are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination!

Also...I am not convinced that very much learning happens in a typical institutional school. When I ask people who have academically successful children what their home lives are like, these parents and children are doing **everything** I did, and my children did, as homeschoolers. I conclude that most of what a child learns happens in the home through the efforts of his parents and the child himself. I conclude that the only thing the typical institutional school does is send home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow.

65 posted on 08/10/2009 1:32:54 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Gabz
It is impossible for any sentient person to be religion-free. It is also impossible for any school to be religion free. Why? Reason: It is impossible to have a philosophic vacuum. Religion, being impossible to prove scientifically, is entirely based upon belief. Only three states exist: God exists, God does not exist, or one is not sure. Each philosophic state is a religious belief since none can be proven to be true or false.

Therefore:

ALL government schools in this nation are by law **godless** in their philosophic worldview. All subject matter is taught as though god does not exist. This has profoundly non-neutral religious consequences for the students and for the parents who must deal with these consequences when the children come home from school.

So....Yes, I am very much against government schooling because it is **impossible** for government schools to be religiously, politically, or culturally neutral. The government **forces** the taxpayer to pay for a religious worldview that is abhorrent to many. For those who can not afford the extra cost of private or home schooling, the government forces attendance in it religiously non-neutral and atheistic institutions. However... if the government were to sponsor schools with a God-centered worldview, that, as well, would be abhorrent to many and have just as many non-neutral religious consequences.

Yes, I strongly object to government K-12 schools because they are a First Amendment and freedom of conscience abomination!

Also...I am not convinced that very much learning happens in a typical institutional school. When I ask people who have academically successful children what their home lives are like, these parents and children are doing **everything** I did, and my children did, as homeschoolers. I conclude that most of what a child learns happens in the home through the efforts of his parents and the child himself. I conclude that the only thing the typical institutional school does is send home a curriculum for the parents and child to follow.

66 posted on 08/10/2009 1:34:05 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Gabz

It’s nice that you have such nice public schools where you are.. but everyone isn’t so fortunate.. I had to pull my eldest out of public school because they told me, to my face, that it didn’t matter that she couldn’t write legibly or do math, she could always “use a keyboard, and a calculator”, but that it was absolutely necessary that she take co-ed P.E. or she would flunk out. My youngest goes to private school even though its painful financially. The public schools here in Fresno are awful.. this article is NOT “biased crap” ..its straight on the mark for most school districts. You live in some sort of fairy world, where everything is happy and nice. The real world is uglier than you know.


85 posted on 08/10/2009 4:49:08 PM PDT by Awestruck (Now if we can only get the rest of the "republican" leaders to stand up to the liberals.)
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