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Scary how a lot of bitter McCain backers oppose Obama at every turn (JUNIOR MARXIST UNHAPPY)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 10, 2009 | NEIL STEINBERG Sun-Times "Columnist "

Posted on 08/10/2009 9:18:40 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

Scary how a lot of bitter McCain backers oppose Obama at every turn Comments

BY Opening shot . . . At any given moment, 40 percent of Americans are dead wrong. Four out of 10 colonists would have happily remained under British rule -- some even fought on the side of the Redcoats. Forty percent of the country -- if not more -- were content with the Nazis overrunning Europe and would have never considered taking up arms against Hitler had not the Japanese attacked us and the Germans -- unwisely, as it turned out -- joined them in declaring war against our country.

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Neil Steinberg

Of course it takes time to form a consensus over what being "dead wrong" means. Today, for instance, some -- I don't know if it's 40 percent, but a considerable minority -- who voted for John McCain are galvanizing into, not just an opposition party in exile, but a kind of fifth column, an enemy within trying to undermine the operation of our government, opposing the president at every turn for purely ideological, if not pathological, reasons.

If Obama tries to fix the economy, then they're against fixing the economy. If Obama tries to reform health care, then the current medical mess is fine and they descend on congressional town hall meetings to shout down and intimidate. If Obama were mobilizing the nation to fight off invaders from Mars, they'd oppose that, too.

It's scary, but we must remember that -- like the Royalists and the America Firsters -- the current crop is on the wrong side of history. The Royalists fled to Britain with their Tory overlords. The isolationists forgot their initial eagerness to ignore Hitler and spent the next 50 years patting themselves on the back as the Greatest Generation. Alas, we're stuck with our present misguided 40 percent, and will have to move forward best we can, with them clinging to our ankles and trying to trip up their own nation every step of the way.

Cities make you smarter God bless Chicago. Having just driven across the country and back, I can tell you that most places are bumps in the road, and it's chilling to see the kind of undiluted reactionary opinion they marinate in. Every roadside diner's TV is tuned to Fox News, every radio station serves some right-wing nut grimly insisting on the reality of utter fantasy. It was out West that I saw a bumper sticker reading, ''Where's the birth certificate?'' referring to the mad claim that Obama was born in Kenya and thus was not eligible to be elected president.

I was sitting in the parking lot of a Wal-Mart in Mesquite, Nev., when I turned on the radio and heard someone -- it may have been Michael Savage -- explain how the entire birth certificate controversy was -- ready? -- fabricated by the White House in order to distract the public from the president's health care reform.

Takes your breath away, doesn't it?

It's hard to believe such people are sincere, that they ascribe so much malign, nefarious evil onto Obama that they can really believe that long ago he was planting seeds of the birth certificate controversy, working his enemies like puppets, to grease the skids of health reform after his potential election.

You have to marvel at the ingenuity, the sheer flexibility of hate. Like water, it finds a way. Let's break the code. What are the "birthers" saying? Obama is not a citizen, not a full person, but someone barred at the door, by definition. Which for 200 years would have been easily accomplished by his skin color alone. But now that the racial factor -- to their sorrow -- has been taken off the table, the birth certificate canard has been created in its place.

Welcome home "Neil, I just read your Sunday article and could not disagree with you more," writes Tony Megaro, of Chicago. "The main point that the media and the White House don't get is this: The American people do not want to pay for the health care of illegal aliens. . . . Look, if Obama and Pelosi are hell-bent on giving every person free health care, they should change a few laws. The most important should be if you are in this country illegally and have a child, that child is not automatically a U.S. citizen. These immigrants who come into this country know this loophole and have been abusing it for decades."

Three of my four grandparents were born in Eastern Europe, and came to this country to escape the rigors of their homelands.

Thus, I instinctively oppose the contempt with which some greet our current wave of immigrants from Mexico and Latin America as the cowardice and hypocrisy it is.

Occasionally, I try to bang a few pans together on this subject, to point out that we have 12 million undocumented Hispanics living in this country in near serfdom, and the only solution is to put them on the path to citizenship, as we have always done in the past.

But the bottom line is, I'm not Hispanic, I don't speak Spanish and my ability to understand and comment upon Chicago's Latino community is limited. That's why I'm especially happy that my colleague, Esther J. Cepeda, is rejoining the paper today, in the commentary section, as a regular columnist. It takes a lot of personality, curiosity, spunk and confidence to fill an empty space, and Esther has got it, big time, and is an expert in an area that is only going to grow in importance. Welcome back.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: angrymob; bho44; bitterclingers; healthcare; lefties; obama; rats
I believe Steinberg was one of the guys who had his lips firmly attached to Cindy Sheehan's butt back in '05, being "bitter" about Ketchup Boy's defeat.
1 posted on 08/10/2009 9:18:41 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Chief, good move putting his occupation in quotes. He is no more a columnist than my 11 month old. This guy is obama shill..


2 posted on 08/10/2009 9:22:18 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Dont Tread on Me)
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To: Chi-townChief
If he is concerned about feedback from former McCain supporters, he will be really beside himself when he hears what actual Conservatives have to say!


3 posted on 08/10/2009 9:23:13 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Chi-townChief

Straw man essay. Not worth anyone’s time reading.


4 posted on 08/10/2009 9:24:17 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Chi-townChief
opposing the president at every turn for purely ideological, if not pathological, reasons.

Remember, we've just got past eight years of Chimpy BushHitler. And the pathologicals opposing us at every turn.

How many hours after the airliners hit the World Trade Center was it before the pathologicals started blaming the United States? For some of them it was later the same day.

There is politics, and then there is politics, with your opponents subscribing to every conspiracy theory that comes down the pike in order to avoid engaging your argument. This describes the average Gore-Kerry-Obama voter, to be sure.

5 posted on 08/10/2009 9:24:40 AM PDT by marron
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To: Owl558

Ahhhh .... but smell the fear in these lefties.


6 posted on 08/10/2009 9:26:05 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Wow, another jew carrying water for the left. Shocker.


7 posted on 08/10/2009 9:26:44 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: Chi-townChief

The Left loves Communism, I say send them all to Cuba and Venezelua, Pelosi and Reid can drive the ships...PS, bring the illegal aliens, too.

Maggot libs.


8 posted on 08/10/2009 9:27:06 AM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: Chi-townChief

This guy is exhibit A for why this paper is in bankruptcy. How dare he compare the experience of the Jews in Eastern Europe to Mexicans and Latin Americans pouring across our southern border illegally? Last time I heard, Mexico wasn’t carrying out pograms and genocide against its own illiterate peasants. “Rigors of their own countries” indeed. What a crap-weasel way to describe what was going on in Europe.


9 posted on 08/10/2009 9:27:23 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Chi-townChief

What is scary is how the media is letting Obama get away with outright lies. He said he wants to ultimately achieve a single payer system and his plan lays the clear ground work for destroying private care as an option yet they refuse to call him on it. He said that CAP and Trade would cause coal fired plants to shut down and the cost of energy to rise and his plan will clearly do that but the press does nothing to scrutinize his plan. They are scary. They are what is wrong with this country. They who commit crimes against liberty and humanity. They would allow this man who is President to behave like a third world socialist dictator.


10 posted on 08/10/2009 9:28:27 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Why are those who claim to have open minds so afraid of open debate?)
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To: Chi-townChief
Another ad hominem attack from the left. Can these people make an argument for the policies they support? Instead, all we get is Republicans are dumb, evil, stupid or, as in this case, "dead wrong."
11 posted on 08/10/2009 9:29:01 AM PDT by TaxMe
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To: Chi-townChief

Scary how people who disagree with -9bama also oppose him politically. Make them stop! They’re evil!


12 posted on 08/10/2009 9:29:10 AM PDT by paulycy (Screw the RACErs.)
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To: Chi-townChief
opposing the president at every turn for purely ideological, if not pathological, reasons.

Aren't ideological reasons the *best* reason to support or oppose something?

13 posted on 08/10/2009 9:30:03 AM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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"Three of my four grandparents were born in Eastern Europe, and came to this country to escape the rigors of their homelands"

Another idiot liberal, unable to understand the difference bewtween LEGAL and ILLEGAL immigration.

I wonder if they would WANT criminals to come (or be sent) from Mexico to USA? If all immigrants were required to obey the law, then these people would be turned back.

but ANYONE can flaunt US law and come to USA for free health care. Have heart desease in Mexico? No problem- sneak into USA.

The contitution DOES NOT say anyone born in the USA is a citizen.

It says anyone born in the USA AND under the laws and jurisdictions of is a citizen. That underlined clause MUST HAVE SOME MEANING- and what it means is that if you are foreign citizen, especially ILLEGAL foreign national, your child is NOT UNDER THE LAWS AND JURISDICTIONS OF the USA

14 posted on 08/10/2009 9:31:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Chi-townChief
LOL!

Neil, my boy, for many years you libs were exactly where we Conservatives are now, yet you considered your blind opposition to Reagan and Bush 1 & 2 legitimate and patriotic. Now that the shoe's on the other foot, you're screaming foul.

As the farmer said to his Son after breaking his ankle tripping over a cowpie, "That's tough sh*t, son."


15 posted on 08/10/2009 9:34:46 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Welcome to the Revolution.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Chicgo Sun Times? Enough said.


16 posted on 08/10/2009 9:35:34 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: marron

“How many hours after the airliners hit the World Trade Center was it before the pathologicals started blaming the United States?”

As soon as they “found out” the towers had been rigged with explosives the night before/s

“Remember, we’ve just got past eight years of Chimpy BushHitler.”

(who “stole” the election. TWICE./s)

And the Commies have the gall to accuse US of fantasizing?!!


17 posted on 08/10/2009 9:37:04 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Chi-townChief

Neil Steinberg is an annoying, whiny drunk demagogue, who “works” for a third-rate leftist rag of a newspaper, lives in lily-white Northbrook, Illinois, and knows nothing of race or the real USA. His words are devoid of meaning or substance, he is a knee-jerk Obama slurper.


18 posted on 08/10/2009 9:37:38 AM PDT by astounded (The democrat party is a clear and present danger to America.)
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To: Chi-townChief
I don't know if it's 40 percent, but a considerable minority -- who voted for John McCain Al Gore and John Kerry are galvanizing into, not just an opposition party in exile, but a kind of fifth column, an enemy within trying to undermine the operation of our government, opposing the president at every turn for purely ideological, if not pathological, reasons. < /same story in 2005 if Steinberg was honest >
19 posted on 08/10/2009 9:42:31 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Chi-townChief

“Bitter McCain Backers”?

McCain has no backers. He is toast. And, though you don’t hear much about him these days, McCain is still there in DC reaching across the aisle, begging to shake Obama’s hand, looking for partners for the next McCain-(fill in the blank) Bill.

And Obama is busy pretending he doesn’t see McCain’s hand—which he probably doesn’t, since he is too busy watching himself in the mirror.

While the media ignore McCain most of the time and continue to bash Sarah Palin and pump Romney for the next engineered Republican loss.


20 posted on 08/10/2009 9:42:56 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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>>>If Obama tries to fix the economy, then they're against fixing the economy.<<<

Conservatives are generally opposed to most government attempts to “fix the economy” (translation: “interfere with free markets”). When “fixing” the economy involves massive bailouts, government control of major industries and trillion dollar “stimulus” packages, funded by massive debt, you better believe conservatives will oppose it.

>>>If Obama tries to reform health care, then the current medical mess is fine and they descend on congressional town hall meetings to shout down and intimidate. <<<

Obama is trying to nationalize health care, making it more expensive, and less effective, while robbing Americans of freedom. Funny, I thought dissent was patriotic.

>>>If Obama were mobilizing the nation to fight off invaders from Mars, they'd oppose that, too. <<<

He's got to be kidding. Obama would never mobilizie the nation to fight the Martians. He would:

a) Apologize to the Martians for all of Earth's history of wrongdoings.

b) Give the Martians driver's licenses and taxpayer funded health care.

c) Send Hillary Clinton or maybe Joe Biden to try to negotiate with the “moderate Martians”.

d) Surrender.

21 posted on 08/10/2009 9:49:43 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: wac3rd
The Left loves Communism, I say send them all to Cuba and Venezelua, Pelosi and Reid can drive the ships

They don't want to go to Cuba or Venezuela, and why should they? They will bring their communism here. Much more convenient.

22 posted on 08/10/2009 9:53:17 AM PDT by webheart
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Another spoiled red diaper baby.Too bad we can’t just be done with them for good.The REAL hardline commies know what to do with these amateur Marxists-thy’re the first ones purged because they make trouble for everyone.It’s like a compulsion with them.It would be nice to see Axelrod end up in a “re-education camp”-he’d last about a day.


23 posted on 08/10/2009 9:56:19 AM PDT by steamroller
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I can’t see backing a Marxist ideologue and the socialist party when it offends every single thing I believe.

Where was this clown when Bush was in office?

It’s lame. Discussing anything with an Obamanation is like trying to talk to idiots who can only bang on a drum and drool.


24 posted on 08/10/2009 9:56:19 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Those embryos are little humans in progress. Using them for profit is slavery.)
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Occasionally, I try to bang a few pans together on this subject, to point out that we have 12 million undocumented Hispanics living in this country in near serfdom...

Serfdom in America is royalty in Mexico.

That's why I'm especially happy that my colleague, Esther J. Cepeda, is rejoining the paper today, in the commentary section, as a regular columnist. It takes a lot of personality, curiosity, spunk and confidence to fill an empty space, and Esther has got it, big time ...

So he just said that Esther has got empty space "big time"?

25 posted on 08/10/2009 9:59:26 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Chi-townChief
MetroSexual Steinberg


26 posted on 08/10/2009 10:01:25 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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I think he means Democrats.

The Republicans don’t have enough votes in the Congress to win a bathroom break.


27 posted on 08/10/2009 10:04:25 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Chi-townChief
If Obama tries to fix the economy, then they're against fixing the economy.

We'll never know because Obama has not tried to fix the economy.

I'm just to lazy to pick apart this whole idiotic article where Neil fails to ignore every single fact to find his conclusion. So I'll just summarize: Neil, I hope someday you can fulfill you dream of becoming a Hispanic Woman. Until then STFU.

28 posted on 08/10/2009 10:09:18 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (There are no moderates on the SCOTUS. Either the founders wrote it or they didn't.)
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Seriously. Let's hop in a time machine and look at this:

Scary how a lot of bitter McCain Kerry backers oppose Obama Bush at every turn

29 posted on 08/10/2009 10:14:05 AM PDT by Malacoda (CO(NH2)2 on OBAMA.)
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To: Maelstorm

Past journo:

“By the time we realized we worked for Fidel, it was too late”.


30 posted on 08/10/2009 10:15:38 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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To: Chi-townChief
"...Cities make you smarter..."

Wow, for a "smart" guy, he sure is an idiot. I'll wager you can take pretty much any "country boy", drop him in the city, and he'll survive just fine. Then take one of these brilliant metrosexual idiots from any big city and drop him out in the middle of nowhere. He won't last a week. He'll die from exposure 200' feet from shelter. He'll die of thirst and hunger right next to a stream full of fish.

31 posted on 08/10/2009 10:18:49 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: cardinal4
"Obama shill"

This is remarkably incoherent article even for a liberal. The gist of Steinberg's article is I believe: conservatives are horrible, nasty racists who don't want to get on with Obama's socialist program. Plus people who don't live in large cities are ignorant screwballs who don't know what's good for them. The usual liberal method of analysis by character assassination. Totally unable to discuss issues on their merits.

32 posted on 08/10/2009 1:34:08 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: raptor29
"another Jew"

That was a remarkably bigoted remark. The Stormfront website is too busy right now?

33 posted on 08/10/2009 1:35:32 PM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: VeniVidiVici
Pot meet Kettle...

Everything's just fine; Until President Bush says so -- then it's time to start worrying. By Neil Steinberg The Chicago Sun-Times

Dick Dubin: " One of my acquaintances is a columnist for the Chicago Sun-Times. His name is Neil Steinberg."

May 21, 2007 5:15 PM EDT: Neil Steinberg in the Chicago Sun-Times .... President Bush cheerleader for the Republican Party Donors, Big Oil

34 posted on 08/10/2009 1:43:10 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: driftless2

Yeah yeah, the knee-jerk politically correct response. You can buy into this garbage, I’ll tell the truth, regardless of whether it offends the offenders.


35 posted on 08/10/2009 2:02:30 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Chi-townChief

With all due respect, Chicago is a showcase for the proposition that cities do not necessarily make you smarter.


36 posted on 08/10/2009 2:08:46 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: OpusatFR
“Discussing anything with an Obamanation is like trying to talk to idiots who can only bang on a drum and drool.”

I am in my second consecutive master's level class where the multicultural drivel is neck high. After reading every other paper regurgitating the diversity indoctrination, the prof has been sending me emails thanking me for writing lively papers that are different. The same thing happened last semester.

The left’s insane people are in power everywhere and paradise still isn't here. Instead we see angry leftist bromides from a bunch of petulant children. It is becoming apparent to people everyday, even in academia.

37 posted on 08/10/2009 4:36:14 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Chi-townChief

Why do I find myself wishing his three grandparents had stayed in Eastern Europe?


38 posted on 08/10/2009 4:41:55 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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If Obama tries to reform health care, then the current medical mess is fine

What medical mess?

We have the best healthcare system in the world. Sure, it could use some improvements, but a draconian government takeover is not what it needs.

Better start with Tort reform. Now there is a mess that is not only affecting the medical industry, it also negatively affects all industries--except the law industry which gets rich because of the mess it creates.

39 posted on 08/10/2009 4:52:14 PM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: raptor29

What is the truth?


40 posted on 08/11/2009 10:43:53 AM PDT by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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