How could I NOT take this seriously?!
Steve-b Alert!!! Posted on 08/06/2009 8:53:45 AM PDT by steve-b
It is in many ways the weirdest shard of reporting from those years, and its testimony is from no less than the former president of France:
The president of the United States, in a top-secret phone call to a major European ally, asked for French troops to join American soldiers in attacking Iraq as a mission from God. Now out of office, Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their "common faith" (Christianity) and told him: "Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East…. The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled…. This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins."Is this true?...
(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com ...
It seems more likely to me that Chirac would lie than that GWB would use such language to him.
It's awkward to say openly, but now-departed President Bush is a religious crackpot, an ex-drunk of small intellect who "got saved." He never should have been entrusted with power to start wars.
If GW wanted to “erase” the enemies of “his people,” (presumably the Jews) he had much more effective means at his control than pleading for support from France.
So he took info as gospel from here:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=haught_29_5
to talk about in the Atlantic?
That’s some good reporting there. No wonder mags and papers are tanking.
Posting hearsay as an open question is not journalism, Andrew? The reason it is most likely not true is that any mature individual in Bush’s position can envision an Andrew Sullivan at some later date making hay off of such an encounter and would defer to more diplomatic language based on just that.
It’s funny how Sullivan is willing to print this but leaves the open secret about John Edward’s baby Momma to the National Equirer when virtually everyone knew the truth. Lame Lame Lame...Andrew never disappoints.
I say B as in B., S as in S.
There is no evidence that GW Bush believes that the Land Of Israel is anything special to his Christian faith.
This is leftist fantasy unrelated to any verified reality.
At it again, steve? Go away!
True; look at how the "birther" nonsense has spread over FR like kudzu....
bttt
of small intellect
I didn’t know Yale accepted people of small intellect. But, of course, looking at the Senate and Congress lately, I can see where most colleges do accept people of small intellect and we elected them!Oh, did we ever get Obama’s grades in college?
He didn’t have a hit piece on Palin today so he used this nonsense and one on a creation park where the operators (unlawfully so) refused to pay witholdings (they should have).
But the mere fact that Andrew Sullivan understands very little about the Gog of Magog war of Ezekiel 38 is no surprise at all.
Posting Andrew Sullivan now? How absolutely fabulous of you!!!
Not as unfortunately as agreeing with the House Troll.
It would bot surprise me in the least that someone like President Bush would have said something like that.
The Family and other branches of the NWO have been using Gov't and Religion for years. Dominionist would love to use Gov't to bring forth prophesies and the 'New Age'.
If it was a top secret phone call, how would any of us know if it was true or not? If anyone did, and published it, that would be a major security compromise.
Chirac spent years trying to tear down W. Bush and the United States. But he proved woefully incompetent in doing so. At times he even seemed desperate to “replace” the US as a superpower with some other, *any* other arrangement.
He appealed to Russia, then created the “Year of China” in France, hoping for an allegiance that would “counterbalance” the US, and hopefully elevate France back to being a world power.
Likely he was behind French support to Saddam Hussein, selling him weapons to use against the US military. And he certainly was conducive to bribes from Saddam, payoffs in the oil for food scandal.
Chirac also proposed several “international” taxes, was a strong proponent of the Man Made Global Warming hoax, called for a one world government, etc., etc.
He was an ugly, nasty little toad.
Steve-b Alert!!! Never click on a link to read the original version of a Sullivan item, because if you do so you’ll be driving up Sullivan’s traffic count — making his advertising rates correspondingly higher.
Like flypaper, the trolls flock to the bait, BDSers, Saddam & Sons defense team, bigots, they are all here.
Perhaps it is Sullivan who posted this thread.
In fact, when Bush visited Israel, in January 2008, the Sanhedrin, the Temple and the New Jewish Congress gave him the "Bush Scroll", which called President Bush the Chief Prince of Gog and Magog.
http://www.templeinstitute.org/megillat-bush.htm
"Esteemed Mr. George W. Bush, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal (Ezekiel 38:1), leader of the west!"
..."The Land of Israel was bequeathed to the nation of Israel by the Creator of the world. Neither could I, as a son of my faith, nor the Muslims according to their faith, ever take away even the slightest grain from the Eternal's gift, which He gave to His people Israel, the eternal people. Thus I call upon all the nations to save themselves from certain doom, to return and recognize That this land is the exclusive rightful inheritance of the people of Israel, as is written in the Torah of Israel, which constitutes the very foundation of our faith, as well as that of Islam; and is the basis for the decisions of the community of nations. He who denies this truth endangers all life on earth...."
So...I would assume that many in Israel agree with you.
Hey careful now. Kudzu is an honorable crop in GEorgia these days. That and red clay
YEAH, THE FIRST CALL I’M GONNA MAKE FOR HELP IN A FIGHT IS TO FRANCE.................
And could you be any more conspiratorial? This group was started in response to the 30s growth of communism and socalism in the US. The messages were nearly all pro US and anti communist. As much as folks want to have a new world order boogie man this ain’t it. Read Quigley if you want to see who the real bad guys are
No, I was misquoted. I told Mr. Chirac, "Let's not go in blind, like Mr. Magoo."
The only question he would have asked the French is How many white flags can you supply.
Be sure and look at every shadpw very closely. In fact I would use double and triple proxies in order to do any WEB work. Be sure and use only cash. Oh and for good measure Alex Jones has a new video out that you will no doubt enjoy
And of course would have to say as many as the Chinese can manufacture ( as would we)
I can’t understand how the Temple Institute came to that conclusion. Gog of Magog assists and in fact, leads Persia and Libya and Ethiopia in the attempt to invade Israel. Further, “chief prince of Meschech and Tubal” couldn’t possibly be ascribed to the United States.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2038;&version=9;
Some have thought that they ascribed "Chief Prince" to Bush because he, and his admin., supported some form of giving Israel's land to Israel's enemy, which is an attack against Israel. An attack which is akin to the attack carried out by the Chief Prince of Ezekiel 38:1.
(Attempting the) Dividing of the land was very poor judgement of Bush; he even bragged about it on the WH website (now the pages have been replaced).
Yep, strange, that statement.
I would imagine that that is the attitude that caused the writing of the Bush Scroll as it does reflect the spirit of the Chief Prince.
Yep. When it comes it will be lauded as “an historic peace achievement” and there will be Nobel Prizes.
All will seem well for 42 months, or 3.5 years or 1,260 days.
Then ...
Then...
Been to Charlotte lately?
“Prophecy For Today. The best introduction to Catholic prophecy in print. Covers the Great Catholic Monarch who will rule the entire world, the Angelic Pastor (a Holy Pope who will convert the world), the period of peace and prosperity, the Antichrist, etc., all taken from the prophecies of many Saints down through the centuries.”
http://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/page/shop:flypage/product_id/177/
Just another partisan media shill.
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