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If Obama is a socialist, what was FDR?
TBO.com ^ | August 2, 2009 | WILLIAM MARCH

Posted on 08/01/2009 9:22:48 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000

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1 posted on 08/01/2009 9:22:48 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
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To: TaxPayer2000

The difference?

FDR was a Socialist who loved his country.


2 posted on 08/01/2009 9:26:49 PM PDT by WackySam (The fact that there are 24 hours in a day, and 24 beers in a case, is not a coincidence.)
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To: TaxPayer2000

At least he wasn’t an overt racist.


3 posted on 08/01/2009 9:29:46 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century. I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: TaxPayer2000
What was FDR?


4 posted on 08/01/2009 9:31:21 PM PDT by 50mm (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: WackySam
You have no argument from me. They were all socialist. Shame on all of them! The only difference is one of degree. Obama is just more blatant about it than some of the others. This train wreck has been coming for a long time.
5 posted on 08/01/2009 9:31:37 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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Just a comment on one statement. Bob Dole did work to rescue Soc Sec. But when he did it was not seen anything like an income redistribution program. In 83 there was genuine concern that those who had contributed oer their years would not receive the benefits they’d been expecting. They were expecting repayment in line with their prior cotributions. That’s not income redistribution AFDC was income redistribution.Obamacare will be a serious form of redistribution. But as conceived SSS was not, and that is what Dole and others tried to save.


6 posted on 08/01/2009 9:31:52 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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FDR loved Uncle Joe Stalin. He was a commie.


7 posted on 08/01/2009 9:32:17 PM PDT by gorilla_warrior (Metrosexual hairless RINOs for hopey-changey bipartisan-ness)
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But if socialism means placing the good of society ahead of the good of the individual, there could be few better formulations than Kennedy's:

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country."

What a lying note to end on. The majority of people who want socialist healthcare aren't looking at it as an opportunity "to do for their country". They see it as an opportunity for their country to do something for them, namely pay their doctor bills.

Also, the writer's characterization of Father Caughlin is tendentious and false. He should read Jonah Goldberg's book so that he can get his facts straight.

8 posted on 08/01/2009 9:34:44 PM PDT by Yardstick
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If Obama is a socialist, what was FDR?

A socialist, and apparently an inspiration for future socialists.

9 posted on 08/01/2009 9:38:43 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: gorilla_warrior

FDR loved his drugs, period. He was in far too deep a stupor to be aware of his consequences.


10 posted on 08/01/2009 9:41:22 PM PDT by tired1 (When the Devil eats you there's only one way out.)
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Bolsheviks


11 posted on 08/01/2009 10:03:37 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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Socialism is the means to the communist end.

It’s humans as stock farm animals. And communists are not above taking them to slaughter.

It’s slavery.

Whenever one human is FORCED to fund any part of another’s existence or the existence of the government IT IS SLAVERY!

The universe doesn’t recognize the subtleties—you are free, or you are not. Unless you want to split hairs in regard to the acceptability of ‘shades of slavery’ or the ‘degrees of slavery’ like someone with some kind of sick fetish.

NO MAN, NO GROUP OF MEN, IS FIT TO RULE ANOTHER!

It is a DEADLY game that will cause suffering and death yet AGAIN, just like it always has in history.


12 posted on 08/01/2009 10:05:51 PM PDT by Boucheau (The enemy of freedom is on the left.)
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...A socialist and a statist.

From FDR’s Second BIll of Rights Speech

“It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.”


13 posted on 08/01/2009 10:13:50 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: WackySam

“FDR was a Socialist who loved his country.”

That’s a damn lie!!!!


14 posted on 08/01/2009 10:19:25 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: WackySam

The difference? FDR was a Socialist who loved his country.
***Good one. Bump that.

Obama is a National Socialist
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15 posted on 08/01/2009 10:26:15 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: WackySam
The difference?

FDR was a Socialist who loved his country.


Agree but he had all the other flaws Obama has.

Wasn't FDR's wife a lesbian and didn't FDR run around on his wife? Give Obama time ... he'll be like that too.

16 posted on 08/01/2009 10:56:43 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: TaxPayer2000; All


17 posted on 08/01/2009 11:26:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: gorilla_warrior

Agreed.

But did the US go to war on 1941 to defend the USSR from the Nazis and the Japs? I think so.

Did the US nuclear bomb the Japs to prevent them from rivaling the Soviets in future? Yes.

Did the USA occupy Japan and Germay to protect the Soviets? Yes.

Did the US stall their advance on the Western Front to let the Soviets gain control of Western Europe? Yes.

We’ve had Jimmah, Lyndon, Clinton, and now the arch Manchurian Candidate, Obama. So sad. The USA, last great hope of Democracy falls to internal corruption and Commie insurrection.

Democracy is ending.

Now comes the Dictatorship of ????????


18 posted on 08/02/2009 2:18:46 AM PDT by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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I don’t know what FDR was, but my father, who served during WW2, used to call him a commie bas%ard.


19 posted on 08/02/2009 4:41:49 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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You can’t judge Socialism by what it says to you. While it says “the good of society” its real goal is total control of “the Masses”.

It’s the old thing of the front of the package in the grocery store proclaiming miracles in color and dazzling visual effects, while the ingredient list on the back reveals the same old emasculated white flour and hydrogenated (carcinogenic) fat.


20 posted on 08/02/2009 5:50:30 AM PDT by RoadTest (I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. - John 14:6)
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