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1 posted on 07/25/2009 9:17:59 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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This is a good development. The more they Darwin-drones squawk, the more people will buy the movie.

PS This is a “Made for TV” Movie, so hopefully they will raise enough money from video sales to air the movie internationally.


2 posted on 07/25/2009 9:21:17 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Has anyone seen this movie? Any reviews?


3 posted on 07/25/2009 9:29:37 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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I would like an evo to explain how the following evolved from a lifeless planet devoid of organic chimicals:

Citric Acid Cycle

And I don't want to hear it took millions and billions of years for it to 'evolve' because some of the chemicals (synthases, transaminases, dehydrogenases) degrade rapidly outside a living cell and would be worthless within hours or days at most.

The Krebs cycle is the power plant of the cell, without it no cell can survive.

9 posted on 07/25/2009 9:45:47 AM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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Darwin and this old argument has already lost. There is no DNA link at all to modern humans. It is time we put this to rest. Evolution does exist in the animal kingdom but not to humans.


10 posted on 07/25/2009 9:47:08 AM PDT by smoothlikeeggs
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Your headline is quite misleading, if you actually go to the website you'll see that the three science historians were deceived into contributing and then found what was presented was distorted.

We were led to believe that the movie was being made to be shown as an educational film on Australian broadcast television and possibly elsewhere. Fathom Media was revealed to be a subsidiary of Creation Ministries International when publicity for the movie began to appear on the internet."

Previously, William Crawley, a blogger for the BBC, reported (June 21, 2009) that Bowler was "unhappy to be appearing in what he regards as an 'anti-Darwinian' film which offers an historically distorted portrait of Darwin" and that he along with Browne and Herbert "only discovered that they had inadvertently contributed to a Creationist film a month before the film's release." Phil Bell, the CEO of Creationist Ministries UK, acknowledged that Fathom Media was established as a front company, explaining, "At the end of the day ... [when] people see 'Creationist', instantly the shutters go up and that would have shut us off from talking to the sort of experts, such as Professor Bowler, that we wanted to get to."

Crawley added, "I asked Phil Bell if this method of securing an interview was 'deceptive'. He said: 'Well, it could be called deceptive.

If you have to lie about why you want an interview and hide who you're representing through front companies perhaps you need to seek guidance on morals and ethics from a higher authority.

14 posted on 07/25/2009 10:26:06 AM PDT by par4 (Scruting the inscrutable since the 20th century)
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Sacha Baron Cohen (Ali G, Borat, Brüno) also used shill, front companies to draw in legitimate interviewees.

The new face of creationism?

19 posted on 07/25/2009 11:55:30 AM PDT by Stultis (Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia; Democrats always opposed waterboarding as torture)
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Opposition to creationists and intelligent design proponents has a lot in common with the way the global warming alarmists work.

Ad hominem attacks, a huge system financing the squelching of opposition opinions. Just a really ugly atmosphere not representative of science or inquisitiveness at all. I can hear Al Gore saying, “The debate is over.” In science, we should all have enough humility to admit that the debate is never over. History is filled with “known facts” being overturned as scientists gain greater understanding.


21 posted on 07/25/2009 1:23:00 PM PDT by Rocky (OBAMA: Succeeding where bin Laden failed.)
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Creationists, Mike Moore, Sascha Baron Cohen: they all do it.


26 posted on 07/25/2009 4:52:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (In Soviet Russia, Sarah Palin's house can see YOU)
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