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Memo from CBO Director Elmendorf to Rep. Hoyer discussing PAYGO Asset seizure plans (FR Exclusive)
Congressional Budget Office ^ | July 22, 2009 | Douglas W. Elmendorf - CBO Director

Posted on 07/23/2009 6:54:40 PM PDT by bamahead

CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE
Douglas W. Elmendorf,
Director
U.S. Congress
Washington, DC 20515
July 22, 2009

Honorable Steny M. Hoyer
Majority Leader
U.S. House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515

Dear Mr. Leader:
This letter responds to your request that we review an amendment in the nature of a substitute to H.R. 2920, the Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2009 (the amendment), provided to CBO on July 21, 2009. On July 14, 2009, CBO provided an analysis of the version of H.R. 2920 that was introduced on June 17, 2009, which would establish new statutory pay-asyou- go (PAYGO) requirements and authorize the Administration to enforce compliance through a sequestration mechanism. Key issues raised in that analysis and CBO’s analysis of the proposed changes to H.R. 2920, are discussed below.

Summary of CBO’s Analysis of H.R. 2920 As Introduced CBO’s July 14 letter described the agency’s view that H.R. 2920 as introduced includes some features—in particular, the statutory sequestration mechanism—that could enhance overall budget enforcement.
CBO’s analysis of the introduced bill also noted that:
• Provisions that call for adjustments in PAYGO estimates to allow for extensions of “current policy” with regard to certain expiring tax provisions and Medicare payments for physicians’ services would facilitate continuation of such policies without making the resulting deficit increases (relative to current law) subject to sequestration procedures.

• The legislation would shift some control over the budget process from the Congress to the executive branch in ways that could effectively require lawmakers to vote on legislation without a clear indication of the potential impact of their decisions on the triggering of a future sequestration.

• The bill would require that all mandatory programs with current-year outlays greater than $50 million be continued in the baseline after the programs expire. In CBO’s estimation, that provision would add at least $25 billion to the baseline over the 2010-2019 period. In keeping with the principle that proposed legislation should be scored with its incremental effect relative to the current budget resolution baseline, CBO believes that this provision should be scored as increasing mandatory spending.


Analysis of the Amendment You asked CBO to assess how some of the amendment’s proposed changes to the introduced bill would affect those conclusions. In particular, you asked us to consider the impact of provisions in the amendment that would:

• Modify proposed rules that would require legislation affecting four specified areas of the budget to be scored for PAYGO purposes relative to “current policy” rather than current law;
• Provide for the use of CBO cost estimates incorporated by reference in enacted legislation for purposes of maintaining the PAYGO scorecard; and
• Remove or modify many of the changes in scorekeeping procedures contained in H.R. 2920—including the provision that would require that all mandatory programs with current-year outlays greater than $50 million be continued in the baseline after their scheduled expiration date.

Overall, combined with the Congress’s existing pay-as-you-go rules, a statutory sequestration mechanism such as the one that would be established under H.R. 2920 (as introduced or as amended) could enhance overall budget enforcement. However, if the system envisioned in either version of the bill was used in place of the current Congressional rules or a more stringent statutory PAYGO system, enactment of the legislation could lead to larger future deficits under some circumstances.

By eliminating some of the provisions in H.R. 2920 as introduced, the amendment could aid efforts to restrain such deficit increases.

Scoring to Reflect “Current Policy.”

Both H.R. 2920 as introduced and the amendment would specify unique scoring rules for legislation affecting four areas of the budget:

1. Medicare’s “sustainable growth rate” (SGR) mechanism for paying physicians;
2. The estate and gift tax;
3. The alternative minimum tax for individuals; and
4. The income tax cuts enacted in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.

In each of those areas, current law would lead, over time, to lower deficits than would occur under “current policy” as some might define it; CBO’s baseline reflects those current-law reductions in spending and increases in revenues.
The prescribed scoring rules under H.R. 2920 as introduced and the amendment differ in how those rules would be applied, but both would effectively require that legislation affecting those areas of the budget be scored in future years relative to policies in place in 2009, rather than to the policies that would take effect under current law. In effect, both the introduced version of H.R. 2920 and the amendment would allow the Congress to enact legislation that would increase deficits relative to currentlaw projections without triggering a sequestration. Such deficit increases could occur even in the absence of H.R. 2920; for example, changes in law to avoid revenue increases from the AMT or spending reductions from the SGR mechanism have been enacted repeatedly in recent years.

Use of CBO Estimates for Sequestration Purposes.

Both the introduced version of H.R. 2920 and the amendment would require the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to track increases or decreases in the yearend deficit on PAYGO scorecards for sequestration purposes. Under the introduced version, OMB would record the budgetary effects of each act based on its own estimates, which might not be prepared until after enactment. In contrast, the substitute amendment would direct OMB to use CBO’s estimates of budgetary effects that would be printed in the Congressional Record before a final vote on the legislation and incorporated by reference in the enrolled version of each act. In CBO’s view, this change might, in some cases, give lawmakers a clearer understanding of an act’s implications for a potential sequestration prior to final passage and would shift less control of the PAYGO process to the Administration.

Scorekeeping Procedures.The July 21, 2009, substitute amendment would eliminate many provisions of H.R. 2920 related to the set of scorekeeping rules, concepts, and procedures used to generate baseline budget projections. Most notably, the amendment would remove a provision of the introduced bill that would require that all mandatory programs with current-year outlays greater than $50 million be continued in the baseline after their scheduled expiration date. In our July 14 letter, CBO stated that the latter provision should be scored as increasing mandatory spending over baseline levels by at least $25 billion over the 2010-2019 period. In contrast, CBO estimates that enacting the July 21, 2009, substitute should not be scored with any effects on mandatory spending or revenues because it would not change baseline projections.

I hope this information is helpful to you. If you have follow-up questions, I would be happy to address them.

Sincerely,
Douglas W. Elmendorf
Director

cc: Honorable John A. Boehner Minority Leader

Honorable John M. Spratt Jr. Chairman, Committee on the Budget

Honorable Paul Ryan Ranking Member


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KEYWORDS: 111th; cbo; hoyer; lping; paygo; seizure; taxes
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If you're trying to figure out what you're reading, this is a summary memo for a Steny Hoyer requested review of HR 2920 (the PAYGO budget act). The response was sent to Rep. Hoyer's office yesterday, as a followup to his request to review an amended version of the bill. I'm not sure we've seen the 'amended version' released publicly yet.

Obviously the most disconcerting statement in this on page 1:

• The legislation would shift some control over the budget process from the Congress to the executive branch in ways that could effectively require lawmakers to vote on legislation without a clear indication of the potential impact of their decisions on the triggering of a future sequestration.

For those reaching for the dictionary...a 'sequestration' is basically a property seizure, for the benefit of creditors, or THE STATE.

So in this case; asset seizure, taxes, etc are the sequestration being discussed. And it would transfer the power to the executive branch, to make requests for those sequestrations in such a vague way, that the Congress may be 'forced' to vote on such without any clear understanding of what is to be seized.

Abuse of power anyone?

Now on page 3 of the PDF is where it gets more interesting. Take a look at the CBO's 'Scoring to Reflect Current Policy':

Scoring to Reflect “Current Policy.” Both H.R. 2920 as introduced and the amendment would specify unique scoring rules for legislation affecting four areas of the budget: 1. Medicare’s “sustainable growth rate” (SGR) mechanism for paying physicians; 2. The estate and gift tax; 3. The alternative minimum tax for individuals; and 4. The income tax cuts enacted in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003.

So, in short, the Death Tax, the Gift Tax, the AMT and the Bush Tax cuts. The next statement in the report is sure to anger the Democrats:

In each of those areas, current law would lead, over time, to lower deficits than would occur under “current policy” as some might define it; CBO’s baseline reflects those current-law reductions in spending and increases in revenues.

What a carefully worded revelation. The CBO is telling Hoyer, keeping the Bush tax cuts in place and leaving the tax structure asis will improve revenues. Added 'Sequestration' will reduce revenues and INCREASE the deficit.

Surely the Dems were expecting a different analysis. Of course, they may not necessarily be concerned about the deficit, as they are about sequestration and redistrubtion.


1 posted on 07/23/2009 6:54:40 PM PDT by bamahead
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To: bamahead

Despicable.


2 posted on 07/23/2009 7:01:12 PM PDT by IncPen (Pitchforks and torches.)
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
The legislation would shift some control over the budget process from the Congress to the executive branch in ways that could effectively require lawmakers to vote on legislation without a clear indication of the potential impact of their decisions...



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3 posted on 07/23/2009 7:02:38 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Munz

thanks again


4 posted on 07/23/2009 7:03:36 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

Unconstitutional.


5 posted on 07/23/2009 7:05:32 PM PDT by reagandemocrat
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6 posted on 07/23/2009 7:09:36 PM PDT by CajunConservative (ObamaCare. It's "shovel ready"!)
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Dems in Congress Send Obama a Nasty Letter For Acting Like Bush
Fox News/Boston Globe/The Lid | 7/21/09 | The Lid
Posted on 07/21/2009 8:42:42 PM PDT by Shellybenoit
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2298004/posts


7 posted on 07/23/2009 7:17:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: reagandemocrat

It is a power grab pure and simple. The Constitution means little any more, I’m afraid. If this was sent to every news outlet one could think of, it would be spiked on the editor’s desk. Start soaking the torches in kerosene, and sharpen the pitchforks, and polish off your 2nd amendment hardware while you can.


8 posted on 07/23/2009 7:21:05 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: CajunConservative

I must have this bumper sticker!


9 posted on 07/23/2009 7:23:53 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: bamahead

GREAT work Bamahead!

Democrats, between knowledge of killing off the elderly with their “health care” and Corizine (New Jersey) losing most of his office staff to charges of corruption... uh yea.... Democrats are absolutely in Implode Mode. THEN we get to add in the ACORN debacle for desert! Oh how I hope that the GOP grows a backbone and GOES FOR THE THROAT on these issues!


11 posted on 07/23/2009 7:26:36 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: bamahead

so does this mean they just gave medicare to THE WHITE HOUSE..(executive branch)? Kind of like a cat being keeper of the fish tank? ..


12 posted on 07/23/2009 7:28:20 PM PDT by blueyon (It is worth taking a stand even if you are standing alone!)
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To: blueyon

It sounds as if this unseen PAYGO act gives the executive branch control of Medicare’s finances...in addition to direct influence on tax policy, and ‘sequestration’...assett seizure. Who knows what the limits are? Who dares guess?


13 posted on 07/23/2009 7:32:52 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

Very interesting. Thanks very much for posting.


14 posted on 07/23/2009 7:44:36 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: bamahead

All this talk about “sequestration”: I thought that they were discussing the totally bogus Cap and Tax garbage bill,

but, who knew they were discussing the totally bogus overtaking of the US health care industry.

Who knew?

A-holes all!


15 posted on 07/23/2009 7:50:25 PM PDT by aShepard ("OK Class: repeat after me: "BUSH BAD- OBAMA SAVIOR OF MANKIND")
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To: bamahead

This letter tells us all we have to know about why the government needs to have 1000 page communications”

Let me summarize, to save some paper, and about 10,000 hours of reading and analyzing time:
___________________________________

Dear Steny Hoyer;

Thanks for your note on HR 2090!

STFU

Strong letter to follow!

Your pal,

Elmsy


16 posted on 07/23/2009 8:13:07 PM PDT by aShepard ("OK Class: repeat after me: "BUSH BAD- OBAMA SAVIOR OF MANKIND")
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To: bamahead

BH,

Thanks for posting this. This seems like it will be a pretty good blow to the Dims big “paygo” plan that they are all bragging about.

I see PAYGO dying a quiet death with no attention from the media outlets.

Whattaya think?
~SC


17 posted on 07/23/2009 8:14:41 PM PDT by camp_steveo
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To: bamahead

You deserve a Purple Heart and combat pay for doing the job that our elected public serpents didn’t do by actually reading the bill to find this.


18 posted on 07/23/2009 8:35:31 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: camp_steveo

Either it dies quietly, or the Dems proceed...

My take is that the power grab there is likely more important to their strategy at this point than is deficit reduction.

So, if the media pays no attention to this, and doesn’t blow the cover on what would be a ridiculous choice by the Dems to proceed, given the CBO score, then it may end up being worse for America. Obama will have free reign to pursue punitive asset grabs and surtaxes on anybody he doesn’t really care for...and control of Medicare spending...which means powerful leverage over the health industry.


19 posted on 07/23/2009 8:36:26 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thank ya :)


20 posted on 07/23/2009 8:39:54 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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