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Is Obama’s presidency threatened? [Birth Certificate]
The Delhi Statesman ^ | July 18, 2009 | Rajinder Puri

Posted on 07/18/2009 2:47:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Even while US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pursues her five-day visit to India, an event has occurred in the USA that could conceivably snowball into a major controversy to cut short President Obama’s tenure. Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution states: “No person except a US born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of President.”

During the last US campaign a controversy arose about Obama’s birthplace. Critics were unsure if he was born in the USA or Kenya. Obama’s campaign committee released a Hawaiian birth certificate on 13 June, 2008. Sceptics alleged that it had signs of forgery.

Obama maintained he was born in Hawaii. One hospital, Honolulu ‘s Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children, claims it received a letter from the President declaring his birth there. But White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to authenticate the letter. For nearly six months the hospital proudly declared Obama was born at its facility to create poll hype. Later it covered up and refused to confirm if the letter actually existed. The letter was purportedly signed by Barak Obama. If the signature was forged it was a most serious offence. Was any action taken against the Hospital?

This week the controversy about Obama’s birthplace resurfaced dramatically. A US Army Reserve, Major Stefan Frederick Cook, scheduled for deployment to Afghanistan, refused to serve claiming that the order was illegal because the American President was not legitimate. He argued that he should not be required to serve under a President who has not proven his eligibility for office. “As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is my duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a ‘natural-born citizen,’ he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief,” Major Cook said. “Then any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal order. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections.”

The military created shock waves by revoking the deployment order without giving any reasons. Thereby it evaded a reply to Major Cook’s objection and implicitly acknowledged that it could offer no proof of President Obama’s birth in the USA. If the military cannot vouch for President Obama’s legitimacy the implications can be very far-reaching. Major Cook’s case is being heard in the court of US District Judge David O Carter. The judge told the plaintiffs to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to “the merits” of their case. The date of the hearing was fixed for 16 July.

It is unlikely that the US mainstream media will highlight the event. But regardless of the judge’s verdict, will the issue die? If it snowballs into a crisis America could face a cruel choice. While it battles a severe economic meltdown it may have to either remove a most popular President or violate its Constitution.


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Uh, oh ... if an Indian newspaper is writing about this issue, it's growing some long legs.
1 posted on 07/18/2009 2:47:14 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just the beginning of a tidal wave of soldiers doing same to keep from going to Iraq or Afganistan.


2 posted on 07/18/2009 2:52:01 AM PDT by Fred (Obama Throws the Iranian Citizens Under the Bus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It is a very sad year when PRAVDA and Chinese and Indian
papers are MORE INVESTIGATIVE than ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, FOX, and PBS all together.


3 posted on 07/18/2009 2:53:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a long list of discrepancies that have come to light since the infamous certification of live birth forgery was posted on the Internet, which the mainstream media chooses to ignore. CNN’s “debate” on the issue yesterday during Lou Dobbs’ show was despicable and reminiscent of all the transparency of a Soviet show trial. May the truth come out.
4 posted on 07/18/2009 2:56:02 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm keeping the popcorn ready because this could get interesting...
5 posted on 07/18/2009 2:58:33 AM PDT by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“may have to either remove a most popular President or violate its Constitution”?
To begin with this socialist punk is not a most popular president. Just go to ANY tea party and listen to what folks there say about the poser president.
Second neither he nor any one is worth vilating our Constitution for.
Throw the magic negro is jail for fraud.


6 posted on 07/18/2009 2:59:16 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Patrick)
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To: Diogenesis
watched Lou Dobbs last night. They sure did a job on Keys and Taitz, This is going to be worst than the swift boat vets trying to get their word out. Nothing is going to come of the Birth certificate thing. The birth certificate is like asking Madoff to do his own book audit!
7 posted on 07/18/2009 3:00:40 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: SpaceBar

I think you just insulted the Soviets/Russians.


8 posted on 07/18/2009 3:03:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I am Jim Thompson!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Voter has Fingers, Toes & Eyes crossed.
Please GOD let this be true.
I know, I know we will have ole BR-535 as President and yes Witch Nanacy will be one step closer. . . . . . . .
But the most dangerous man on earth will be in JAIL.
9 posted on 07/18/2009 3:12:40 AM PDT by DeaconRed (BO STINKS-AND THROWS LIKE A GIRL-AND IS A FRAUD)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s what’s interesting about this whole thing.

That letter to the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children has since been confirmed to be authentic.

But the thing is, for years, Obama claimed he was born at Queen’s Medical Center.

So......which is it? And why has Obama said that he was born at both hospitals???


10 posted on 07/18/2009 3:12:57 AM PDT by PowerPro (United States of America : 1776-2008...RIP)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a recovering attorney, I could almost guarantee you that the Supreme Court will never find that Obama cannot serve as President. The government would be in such turmoil (as if it weren’t already!)if a anti-president that had served as long as Obama had served and had done the things Obama has done. How would the country do a do-over? Trillions of dollars are gone. All the bankruptcies. All the looters that would be turned loose. Etc. The time to examine the problem is long gone. SCOTUS should have done something positive before the inauguration.


11 posted on 07/18/2009 3:22:39 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: carcraft

The fact tha Lou Dobbs felt they had to do a number on Keyes and Taitz is proof of their being frightened.

The same as Democrats fighting palin is proof she scares them.

This cannot be ignored much longer. Its part of Barry Soetoro’s need for speed in the Congress to pass his disastrous bills.


12 posted on 07/18/2009 3:25:25 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not just about a constitutional question, it’s far greater. If Obama is not eligible by our constitutional law, it’s clear that he knows it, knew it prior to taking office, prior to running for office. That means that he would have had to lie, to perjure himself and basically to commit fraud and that he continues to do so along with obstructing justice in order to remain in office.

Other countries will ask the question, if Obama does not deal honestly with the USA, why should any of us believe that he is going to be any more honest with us? His credibility as a world leader is shot, and ours along with his.

This issue has to be addressed and settled once and for all. The truth, whatever it is, must come out, and we, as a nation, must deal with the legal ramifications.

If Obama is not eligible by the rules set forth in our constitution, he has to be removed from office along with anybody else who knew the truth and conspired to keep it hidden. If he lied to the public, if he deceived the voters, then he must pay the price along with those who helped him do so.

It’s time to get this settled.


13 posted on 07/18/2009 3:30:25 AM PDT by Marty
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting development. It hadn't occurred to me before what the international implications might be. The tipping point on this may come from abroad.
14 posted on 07/18/2009 3:41:13 AM PDT by csense
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The issue is growing and could get to the point where it effects BO’s international status. Talk is increasing. The media is slowly picking up on the issue although a local radio talk show host hung up on me when I tried to discuss Major Cook’s case earlier this week.


15 posted on 07/18/2009 3:42:03 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
More people are challenging BO's eligibility. Visit www.americangrandjury.org for more information.
16 posted on 07/18/2009 3:44:35 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! FairTaxNation.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Major Cook’s case is being heard in the court of US District Judge David O Carter. The judge told the plaintiffs to fix their paperwork and that he would listen to “the merits” of their case.”

Judge Clay heard Major Cook’s case and dismissed his TRO request because the US Army revoked his orders.

Judge David O. Carter is hearing Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes’ case in Santa Ana, California. Judge Carter has recently ordered Keyes to serve BO in his capacity as President or have his case dismissed. Keyes maintains BO was properly served as an individual for a complaint filed before he was inaugurated. Also, Keyes claims BO defaulted on his first complaint by not answering. Keyes is seeking a default judgment and a demand for access to proof BO is eligible to be President of the United States.


17 posted on 07/18/2009 3:45:06 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: Marty
From The Article: "Obama’s campaign committee released a Hawaiian birth certificate on 13 June, 2008."

Wrong. Obama's campaign committee released a copy of a Hawaiian "Certification of Life Birth", not a "Birth Certificate". BIG DIFFERENCE!

18 posted on 07/18/2009 3:45:56 AM PDT by seekthetruth ("See You In DC From 9/11 - 9/13 At Our National Freeper Tea Party Convention!")
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To: Marty
It’s not just about a constitutional question, it’s far greater. If Obama is not eligible by our constitutional law, it’s clear that he knows it, knew it prior to taking office, prior to running for office. That means that he would have had to lie, to perjure himself and basically to commit fraud and that he continues to do so along with obstructing justice in order to remain in office.

Is it not true that the end is more important than the means for Marxists? I agree that the Supreme Court will do nothing to clarify this issue.

19 posted on 07/18/2009 3:48:02 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Ex-Democrat Dean

If what you say is true about the Supreme Court, then they are just as compromised as the Executive and unfit to serve as arbiters of the law.


20 posted on 07/18/2009 3:48:17 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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