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POLARIK springs some startling news re McCain's birth certificate.(interesting read)
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Posted on 07/06/2009 8:32:09 AM PDT by cycle of discernment

(From Plainsradio blog)

POLARIK springs some startling news re; McJuan's birth certificate.

Private ping: The "other" forged birth certificate From Polarik | 06/25/2009 11:33:30 AM PDT new

Keep this under your hats until I spring it on people

I was doing research today on the eligibility and birth certificate controversy that PRECEDED Obama.

Namely, the one on John McCain. It appears that:

1. Not only was there a forged birth certificate for McCain, he didn’t produce it. SHADES OF RATHERGATE! Someone named Don Lamb in Panama forged a Panamanian BC showing that McCain was born there in 1936.

Wait! There’s more!

Not only is the typeface on it from a Selectric IBM, it has the same Rattan background pattern as is on the Hawaiian COLB! (but in black and white). No one ever challenged it. McCain did not want to publicly release his BC, but he did show it to Newsbusters and the Washintton Post, as well as the Senate.

2. The mainstream media was all over it, including CBS, NY Times {twice}, Washington Post {twice}, Dallas Morning News, Newsbusters {twice}, and HuffingtonPost. The first time that the Washington Post published a story about McCain’s eligibility was in 1998!

3. The Hollander v. McCain lawsuit was, without a doubt, the weakest, lamest lawsuit ever brought on the NBC issue.

4. After that lawsuit was thrown out because of “lack of standing,” a term already very familiar in the legal community long before Hollander brought his suit, and obviously long before Berg brought a similar suit, but one much stronger.

5. In July 11, the NYT ran their second article on McCain’s eligibility issue AFTER the Hollander suit was tossed, AFTER the Senate resolution of April 30 proclaiming that McCain was an NBC, and AFTER Obama’s own NBC status was questioned. The NYT argued that the Senate resolution was nonbinding, and they also included an analysis by U. of Arizona law professor, Gabriel Chin who focused on a 1937 law that conferred citizenship on children of American parents born in the Canal Zone after 1904, but after McCain’s birthday to make him a natural-born citizen.

So, all of this crap happened six months before Factcheck did their “Born in the USA” article that was supposed to be “the final chapter.” The Libtards were all over McCain’s ass all that time, right up until the heat was turned on Obama.

Then, suddenly WE were the wingnuts with the tinfoil hats.


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To: ckilmer

The Dems did this to prop McCain up because that is who they wanted to run against - a loser who if he by some means won - would be a Dem anyway.

If this jerk off RINO Juan McCain had been bounced - we might have gotten Fred or even Rudy or Mitt - with Fred being my first choice.


21 posted on 07/06/2009 10:36:25 PM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: LucyT
McQueeg came out of Colon...

Aha! I thought so all along...

22 posted on 07/06/2009 10:51:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Polarik

I will try to upload a couple of BC’s in the next day or so.

They will show what a long form birth certificate looks like from various states and even years apart.

This should give people a pretty good idea that long form BC’s have not changed much from year to year.

Should be interesting to see what happens then.


23 posted on 07/06/2009 10:54:32 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: green pastures
Doesn't being born to a United States Citizen Mother and a United States Citizen Father, as long as one parent has lived in the U.S., make the baby a natural born citizen, regardless of the location of birth?

It makes the child a citizen at birth, but that is not the same as a natural born citizen. The fact is, no one knows where the edges of the definition of "Natural Born Citizen" lie. They all know that born on US territory of two citizen parents makes one natural born. But either having only one US citizen parent, especially when that is the mother, or being born outside of US territory, is a horse of different color.

24 posted on 07/07/2009 12:21:58 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: lula
Wait a minute, there were no hospital facilities in the Canal Zone itself. All children of Service members in Panama were delivered at the hospital in Colon

Your evidence for this is? I'm sure there was at least a dispensary or clinic in the Zone, and in fact on the naval base itself. In 1936, lots of babies were not born in hospitals. Doctors actually made house calls and delivered babies at home.

The hospital I was born in delivered no babies until after WW-II, just a few years before I was born. But they'd been in existence since somewhat before 1900.

25 posted on 07/07/2009 12:25:40 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

BTW, did anyone think to ask McCain’s mother where he was born? She, unlike BHO’s grandma, was not kept under wraps, but actually made campaign appearances with her son.


26 posted on 07/07/2009 12:32:00 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
The fact is, no one knows where the edges of the definition of "Natural Born Citizen" lie. They all know that born on US territory of two citizen parents makes one natural born.

We are exploring the crispy brown edges of our Constitution.

27 posted on 07/07/2009 12:35:38 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: El Gato
BTW, did anyone think to ask McCain’s mother where he was born? She, unlike BHO’s grandma, was not kept under wraps, but actually made campaign appearances with her son.

Could you or someone else please refresh my memory? I don't recall that GWB raised the NBC status of McCain during the 2000 election. If he did, I don't remember reading of it.

28 posted on 07/07/2009 12:39:53 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: cycle of discernment

McCain wasn’t elected President. Who cares what his BC says.


29 posted on 07/07/2009 12:57:30 AM PDT by calex59
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To: LucyT; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

I have the same copy, but of much better quality. Both Photobucket and Yahoo Mail are down right now, so I cannot access it just yet).

This copy is a COMPUTER FORGERY!

The evidence is all over it.

My God. Am I the only one who look at things under magnification???

I can clearly see the UNDERLYING TYPEWRITING, as well as GHOST LINES from a different form, right there, in the boxes for Father’s and Mother’s birthplace.

C’mon, people. How about somebody else play Polarik for a change?


30 posted on 07/07/2009 5:30:21 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

Polarik, we are LIVING “Wag the Dog”.


31 posted on 07/07/2009 5:37:26 AM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out)
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

Here's my copy of McCain's alleged BC:

Look at these areas under magnification.
Everywhere you see an arrow is either a letter or a ghost line
from another, underlying document:


32 posted on 07/07/2009 6:59:49 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
I forgot to mention that I put an arrow pointing to the flair on the letter "A" in "USA" to indicate that this is a modern typeface.
33 posted on 07/07/2009 7:03:50 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: cycle of discernment

McCain was born to two US citizen parents while the father was in service to his country traveling abroad. thus even if McCain had popped out of Mom McCain in the middle of the Capital Plaza of the the nation Panama — he would still be a natural born citizen.

Obama’s dad was a native and lifelong permanent resident of British colony Kenya which became a separate nation some years after Obama was born. Obama’s dad was never a US citizen. That fact ALONE means that Obama can never be considered a “natural born citizen”, since Obama inherited a birth loyalty and citizenship of his Dad.


34 posted on 07/07/2009 7:07:29 AM PDT by bvw
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To: cycle of discernment; Polarik; pissant; STARWISE; BIGLOOK; BOBTHENAILER

“Wait! There’s more!”

“Not only is the typeface on it from a Selectric IBM.”

Did Blather sell his infamous Selectric to these clowns or did he and Mary Mapes do the “Selectric” stuff on this colb?


35 posted on 07/07/2009 7:09:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foreign/domestic terrorists, or tax cheats?)
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To: Polarik

Wow, talk about obvious.

So what’s the deal? Are you saying that this McCain certificate was a forgery that was made to intentionally raise questions?


36 posted on 07/07/2009 7:09:36 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Polarik
I'm no expert but it looks to me like the fonts in the letters “USA” all look modern (father and mothers birth place) especially when compared to the “A” in Panama
37 posted on 07/07/2009 7:15:55 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (zer0 is doing to capitalism what Kennedy did to health care)
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To: Polarik
I forgot to mention that I put an arrow pointing to the flair on the letter "A" in "USA" to indicate that this is a modern typeface.

Not surprising, considering the document was typed in March of 1980.

38 posted on 07/07/2009 7:19:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Polarik

When I look at “U S A” it appears ‘crisper’ and darker than the mother’s and father’s name.

Is that what you mean?


39 posted on 07/07/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by azishot (Please join the NRA.)
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To: Polarik

Wow. Just wow.

Thanks for posting the details.


40 posted on 07/07/2009 7:26:53 AM PDT by thecodont
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