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Vanity: Why would anyone choose to live under fascism or socialism?
March on DC/ Freeper Convention ^ | July 1, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/01/2009 2:29:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

According to the dictionary, government owning or controlling the means of economic production and distribution of goods and services is socialism. Socialism is the transitional stage of Marxism between capitalism and communism. Fascism is a government that puts the nation above the individual, is headed up by a dictatorial leader with all control in the hands of an autocratic central government.

Marxism, socialism, fascism, etc, all feature severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition. Free elections? Yeah, right.

Marxism, socialism, fascism, etc are all UNAMERICAN! They are diametrically opposite of the constitutional republican form of government established for us by our Founding Fathers and set forth in our Constitution, the very same constitution our treasonous representatives and government officials are sworn to uphold.

Ask the people of the USSR how great Marxist governments are. Ask the Cubans. Ask the millions of dead Vietnamese, Cambodians, Chinese, Koreans, Russians, Europeans, etc, that were slaughtered by their own communist or fascist governments. Ask the "free" people of Venezuela or Iran how their "free" elections are working out for them.

Ask the people of Canada, Great Britain, France, Cuba, etc, how their socialized health care systems are working out.

Ask the people of Europe how National Socialism worked for them!

America is a capitalist free society governed according to the Rule of Law at the consent of We the People, NOT by the whims of MARXIST DICTATORS and we mean to keep it that way!!

To hell with the socialists!! To hell with Marxism!! To hell with Obama!! To hell with Kennedy, Reid, McCain, Romney, et al. If they want socialism, they should move to Canada or Cuba, but keep your damned socialist hands off our FREEDOM!!

DONT TREAD ON ME!!

Happy Independence Day!!

Hope to see you in DC on 9-12!!


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fascism; marxism; obama; socialism
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1 posted on 07/01/2009 2:29:39 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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lazy people who want everything in life to be handed to them, who have never lived under tyranny, and are ignorant of history
2 posted on 07/01/2009 2:31:07 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Some people choose fascism or socialism because they don’t want to go to the trouble of working or thinking for themselves.

It’s a way of turning over control of one’s life for certain comforts provided by the government.

I don’t get it either...but if you have ever been to Western Europe you see.....no one works very hard, and they get six week off in the summer. To some it seems a fair exchange.


3 posted on 07/01/2009 2:32:57 PM PDT by kjo
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This is why.

4 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:04 PM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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God bless you, Jim.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:04 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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If you are asking about the Obama voters, I believe it is because our 52% of our voters are too ignorant or apathetic or personally greedy to make the right choice.

In many ways, the entire population is suffering with the government 52% deserve.


6 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:43 PM PDT by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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USA has been living under creeping fascism since that rat bastard Franklin Roosevelt’s “new deal”.


7 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:54 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Why would anyone choose to live under fascism or socialism?

1: Because they do not like the uncertainity and responsibility to be successful in a free society.

2: Because they do not have the temperment they get jealous of those who succeed and want to drag them down.

3: People want to be part of something "greater" and if religion does not fill that role they find something else.

8 posted on 07/01/2009 2:33:56 PM PDT by C19fan
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It is all in the marketing. The National Socialists in Germany marketed themselves as the saviors of the economic problems of the Weimar Republic, similarly, everywhere various forms of collectivism has taken root has always been on the heels of a crisis, usually economic. People don’t freely choose these things, they choose them only when they think there is no other option- as a last resort.

Now, it is about marketing ‘caring’ and other BS terms.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 2:34:43 PM PDT by mnehring
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Simply put, Jim, Obama tapped into the hate on the Left. The Left have no idea what is going on now, don’t care about the future, or America. The hatred for GWB turned on a light bulb in the Obama camp, and they capitalized on it. Ask yourself one question: Is the left hate-filled, angry people? Yes is the answer. The bottom line—they do not care about our future, and that is dangerous.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 2:34:52 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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Because it’s never presented as facism or socialism.

It’s given a pretty face like Clean Energy and Security and Immigration Reform and Cap and Trade and Health Care Reform, and an increasingly uneducated America falls for the euphemisms.

And it is going to get worse as the dumbing down continues.

Remember all the morons on Leno’s Jaywalking. They vote.
See “How Obama Got Elected”. They vote.

At least Rome lasted, 1100 years. Doesn’t look good for America however.


11 posted on 07/01/2009 2:37:55 PM PDT by oldbill
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Happy Independence Day to you and all you love Jim!


12 posted on 07/01/2009 2:40:21 PM PDT by lormand (Michael Wiener - faux Conservative, money bag for California democRATs)
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People want to live under all of those systems if they think they're going to be the ones in charge. If you're in the business of making rules in those systems, they're for other people, not for you. Sweet gig if you can get it.

Fortunately, we're in a constitutional republic, where Congress would never dare to exempt its members from the laws they write for other people. Would they? ;-)

13 posted on 07/01/2009 2:41:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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OldBill, there are a lot of intelligent people on the Left-very intelligent. It is those people that concern me. Obviously, they know what they are doing as well as understanding our (conservatives) concerns yet are willingly taking our America into ruin. That is the part that I don’t understand, and that worries me. Obviously, I understand the average angry Leftist, but not the smart guys.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 2:41:50 PM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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probably because of ignorance and the desire to be “helped” by government


15 posted on 07/01/2009 2:42:24 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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It just seems like (and especially here now), that it works so insidiously, under the radar, seeping in and taking over (the frog-in-the-pot analogy is always apt), so really, no one chooses, it’s just presented fraudulently, and takes over, and when they realize, it’s too late.


16 posted on 07/01/2009 2:45:49 PM PDT by McKayopectate
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Unfortunately 53% of the citizens in this country are either idiots or traitors


17 posted on 07/01/2009 2:53:01 PM PDT by clamper1797 (FUBO ... the Anti-Reagan)
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Because they think they and theirs will be better off.

That begs the question, “Why do they think that?”

Because nobody has convinced them otherwise.

That begs the question, “Why has nobody convinced them otherwise?”

Because...???


18 posted on 07/01/2009 2:55:42 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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Just looking at history, a nation chooses fascism or socialism when economic and security conditions are so bad, anything is perceived as being better than the current situation, especially attractive are demigods promising change. After socialism or fascism worms its way into a society, it destroys all personal initiate. People look to the government or a leader to provide for all their needs.
19 posted on 07/01/2009 3:30:34 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
- Samuel Adams


20 posted on 07/01/2009 3:38:19 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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