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Spokesman: SC governor hiking Appalachian Trail
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/22/09 | Jim Davenport - ap

Posted on 06/22/2009 7:45:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

COLUMBIA, S.C. – South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford has been hiking the Appalachian Trail, a spokesman said Monday, explaining a dayslong absence that perplexed fellow state leaders.

Sanford hadn't been at work for several days and his office hadn't been in touch with him. Lawmakers and his wife said Monday they didn't know where he was, leading critics to question who was in charge of South Carolina.

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Sanford spokesman Joel Sawyer said Sanford left town on Thursday with plans to hike the Appalachian Trail. ..

"He's just up there to kind of clear his head after the legislative session," Sawyer told The Associated Press in an interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: appalachiantrail; hiking; sanford; spokesman
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1 posted on 06/22/2009 7:46:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The local PBS channel a few years ago followed these people who hiked the entire Appalachian Trail. This story made me think of congressman Steve Largent who was on an outdoor hiking trip of some kind when 9/11 happened and his staff had no way to contact him since he didn’t have a cell phone with him.


2 posted on 06/22/2009 7:49:23 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: upchuck

ping!


3 posted on 06/22/2009 7:49:54 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: NormsRevenge
gone "walkabout"...


4 posted on 06/22/2009 7:59:36 PM PDT by erman (Outside of a dog, a book is man's best companion. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

Jon Voight’s character in Deliverence while feeling a bit of alcohol by the campfire slurred that no matter what problems happens in the rest of the world or what great emergency may arise “it won’t find us up here”.


5 posted on 06/22/2009 8:01:34 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I've been there!

6 posted on 06/22/2009 8:02:17 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sanford seems to be a good, solid conservative governor, who has made nice progress into the national limelight. So, the msm is working overtime to make the ol’ crazy taint stick to him.

No serious presidential aspirant can make a move in public anymore, without calculating for effect. That wasn’t done here.


7 posted on 06/22/2009 8:02:44 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
And exactly how important was it that Steve Largent was contacted immediately? What didn't get done?

/johnny

8 posted on 06/22/2009 8:04:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: smokingfrog

Did you take temporary leave of the trail at Hot Springs, NC for a shower or to soak in a natural hot spring, plus experience a little bohemian culture, lol?

It’s still a neat place, despite catching the Asheville contagion.


9 posted on 06/22/2009 8:07:36 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: smokingfrog
Maine to Georgia is one darn long walk.

/johnny

10 posted on 06/22/2009 8:10:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The session was over, the guy wanted to get a few days away, and they couldn’t really say where he was because he’s out in the open and probably with no real protection.

But the media has had a frenzy over this, even though most of the time he has been gone was the weekend.

Meanwhile, in our state of Virginia, our governor is busy doing job — as head of the DNC. He was supposed to “work on weekends”, but he’s been off all over the country at all days of the week. And he won’t tell anybody when he’s here or away, but the news media has not spent any time at all questioning this arrangement.


11 posted on 06/22/2009 8:12:41 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: RegulatorCountry
Apparently this was a setup. His whereabouts were known.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2277017/posts?page=182#182

12 posted on 06/22/2009 8:12:53 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: RegulatorCountry; JRandomFreeper

Not the whole thing. Just the Georgia part. Got lost (sort-of).


13 posted on 06/22/2009 8:14:59 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: smokingfrog

I got my BFA at Western Carolina, which is right by the GA border (if we wanted to go to “town” we road-tripped to Atlanta). I’ve hiked down into Georgia on the trail, and nearly to VA on the NC segment.

Hot Springs was a nice, slightly wacky respite back then. It’s getting a little hippie-gentrified now.


14 posted on 06/22/2009 8:21:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: smokingfrog
Got lost (sort-of).

How does that work, exactly? It's a trail/path that runs generally south and north. Wake up in the morning and headed to Maine? Keep the sun on your right shoulder all morning long.

Going to Georgia? Wake up in the morning and keep the sun on your left shoulder.

I don't get it. Same thing with the Chisholm around here. Indians beat a footpath from Austin to Oklahoma that a blind man couldn't miss.

Folks get lost every year. ;)

/johnny

15 posted on 06/22/2009 8:25:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

WAY COOL. I like the Governor even more.


16 posted on 06/22/2009 8:27:59 PM PDT by gitmo (History books will read that Lincoln freed the slaves and Obama enslaved the free.)
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To: NormsRevenge

right, sure he is. Pull the other one. He just decided to go, spur of the moment thing. In other news, Governor found dead.


17 posted on 06/22/2009 8:34:19 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: gitmo

Can’t say as I blame him...he had expressed frustrations over being forced to take the stimulus money on Beck’s show recently.


18 posted on 06/22/2009 8:35:19 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: ClayinVA

See the link in post 12.


19 posted on 06/22/2009 8:37:39 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: NormsRevenge

I feel like doing the same thing.


20 posted on 06/22/2009 8:39:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: NormsRevenge
Well imagine that. His wife was telling the truth she didn't know where he {but knew what he was doing} was and the media looks like fools. LOL. Good grief a man can't even go on a long weekend hike without the media having a field day. Yes even a governor should be able to do that much. Had it been announced there are crackpots out there ya know. Thus a reasonable need for secrecy.

Even The Lord needed and had His time away alone. As for the governor being out of reach? Yea sorta true mostly not. Most places on the AT though you can get out on a radio or cell these days. Turn off the share location info function on the cell and no one knows.

I remeember a couple years ago a kid using a Hand Held Ham Radio to summon help in The Great Smoky Mountains Park. It was for a drowned class mate while on a Field Trip and the area they were in was pretty darn secluded as far as any communications go.

21 posted on 06/22/2009 8:40:33 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: RegulatorCountry

The AT was to crowded for my taste during my tenure at Cullowhere. The Catalooche section of the Smokies, and the headwaters of Caney Fork and the Little Canada section used to get my attention when I wanted to get away from it all.


22 posted on 06/22/2009 8:43:03 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: NormsRevenge

Let’s see, Chief executive of a state, goes for a walk on the Appalachian trail, doesn’t notify anyone of his absence so the Lt. gov. can take over the work load and no one will worry, including his wife according to her accounts in an earlier article. Nothing suspicious there./SAR


23 posted on 06/22/2009 8:47:54 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

See the link in post 12. It was a setup.


24 posted on 06/22/2009 8:51:38 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Rebelbase

The crowd was part of the attraction for me, part of the scene and all that college kid stuff. It was fun.

Used to take the short hike down to Rainbow Falls at night under a full moon, too, on occasion. If you’re not worried about getting soaked with mist, you can catch a full-circle “moon bow.”

Never hiked around Cataloochee, but was briefly involved with National Ski Patrol there. The main ski slopes were only so-so, even by NC standards, but The Meadows were nice, only open with substantial natural snowfall, though.

Ever been up to Shining Rock?


25 posted on 06/22/2009 8:52:04 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NormsRevenge

Next Sandy and his friend L Ron Paul will sing on AI


26 posted on 06/22/2009 8:52:21 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Rebelbase
Eagle Creek below Spence Field toward Fontana Lake was pretty remote too once you crossed the AT and left the shelter area. I camped a few times about a mile below Shuckstack Rock back in my teenage days. First time in there we saw a few persons in there but that was due to a search going on when a kid got lost up there around 1970 or so.
27 posted on 06/22/2009 8:54:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Didn’t have time to walk the whole Appalachian Trail. The idea was to walk part of the trail, then cut cross-country to pick up a different trail that would generally take us back to where we started. The cross-country part didn’t turn out quite as expected.


28 posted on 06/22/2009 8:55:01 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don’t know, something doesn’t smell right....

His wife would have said he was camping, etc. Her comment was very strange.


29 posted on 06/22/2009 8:57:38 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: NormsRevenge

So was this guy still in constant contact as Governor or was he not, if he wasn’t then that is troubling.

Would a Governor of a state actually be allowed to go off grid for days or would someone have given him a satellite phone and a GPS device so that he was still in charge of state government and it’s agencies?


30 posted on 06/22/2009 8:58:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: RepublicanChick
His wife would have said he was camping IF THE LEFTIST MEDIA HAD REPORTED HONESTLY. Her comment AS REPORTED BY THE LEFTIST MEDIA is very strange.

Fixed it.

/johnny

31 posted on 06/22/2009 9:02:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: RepublicanChick
His wife would have said he was camping, etc. Her comment was very strange.

She's smart. Think about it. Do you announce to strangers where your husband is, how long he will be away, etc if he leaves a few days? My dad took off on a two week hunting trip to Canada when I was a kid roughly 43 years ago. When someone called asking for him we were told to say he's not here and nothing more. Mom knew what he was doing and where he was going but not where he was as such. The same thing the next hunting seasons when he took time away.

Although in general it's usually safe people have been killed by crackpots when hiking the trail. His doings didn't need to be announced. It's wise to carry a weapon when doing so. He's a public figure and she and the state workers were right not to release much details.

32 posted on 06/22/2009 9:07:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: ansel12
Would a Governor of a state actually be allowed to go off grid for days

Last I heard, it was allegedly a free country. Governors are not indentured servants. They are the chief executive of the state.

And why not? NC had any real problems that the burro-ocracy couldn't deal with?

I do not get the infatuation and insistence that everyone ALWAYS be constantly available.

It's a fetish.

/johnny

33 posted on 06/22/2009 9:09:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

CAPS MUCH? No, I don’t trust the MSM at all; however, if she knew he was fine and on his own then say it with a statement.


34 posted on 06/22/2009 9:12:34 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: RepublicanChick

See a link to a freeper explanation in post 12.


35 posted on 06/22/2009 9:14:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can’t imagine a state being leaderless for hours or especially days, in California it is easy to imagine situations where hours or many hours of delay in establishing chain of command could be deadly.

You speak as though this Governor was just a private citizen that was not responsible for activating the National Guard etc.


36 posted on 06/22/2009 9:19:59 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: DJ MacWoW

I didn’t go to the link, thanks for reiterating the point. I still believe his wife should have given a stronger statement.


37 posted on 06/22/2009 9:20:23 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: RepublicanChick
I still believe his wife should have given a stronger statement.

She may well have. Do you think the MSM would report anything accurately if they had a chance to torpedo a possible 2012 GOP candidate?

/johnny

38 posted on 06/22/2009 9:22:23 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I cannot argue with your point about the MSM being in the bag for libs, come on, I know!!


39 posted on 06/22/2009 9:25:57 PM PDT by RepublicanChick
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To: ansel12
delay in establishing chain of command could be deadly.

You really don't get chain of command. It is established. Past tense. It defines who moves up or down to fill a certain spot. Gov is gone, can't be reached, stuck in traffic? Get the Lt Gov. Lt Gov out with his boyfriend and can't be reached? Get the Sec. State.....

In California, when the Gov leaves the state, the Lt Gov is acting, immediately, as I recall.

/johnny

40 posted on 06/22/2009 9:29:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: RepublicanChick

She did. She was misquoted. This was a setup as it was known where he was. A Rino started the rumors. He isn’t a friend of Sanford.


41 posted on 06/22/2009 9:29:33 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You really don't get chain of command. It is established. Past tense. It defines who moves up or down to fill a certain spot.

The time lost would be in a Governor disappearing and being unreachable, it would take time to establish the chain of command. At this point the claim is that no arrangements had been made and that in an emergency the rest of the leadership would have had to piece together what was going on and at some point determine that the Governor was out of the loop and unavailable, that takes time and weakens a response.

42 posted on 06/22/2009 9:36:06 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
Ever been handed a "Your CO is missing" card during an ORI?

The policy is well established through centuries of real use. The chain of command is always established.

Or are you saying that California's first responders couldn't handle a mudslide, fire, or earthquake without contacting Ahrnohld first?

/johnny

43 posted on 06/22/2009 9:40:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You don’t seem to understand that the claim isn’t that he was taking time off in a formal manner but instead that it would have taken time to establish that he was gone, out of touch, disappeared.


44 posted on 06/22/2009 9:45:09 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: ansel12
it would have taken time to establish that he was gone, out of touch, disappeared.

You bought the MSM spin.

45 posted on 06/22/2009 9:53:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: ansel12
You don't get real world operations. People go missing. Disappear. It happens all the time. There are no indispensable men.

That's why even the US government (incompetent as it is) has a Presidential succession law.

Fortunately in this case, the media reports seem to be false. And the state in question is doing ok. Go figure.

/johnny

46 posted on 06/22/2009 9:55:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: NormsRevenge

hope he doesn’t run into the occasional serial killer know to frequent the southern Appalachins

can’t carry a gun in those parks


47 posted on 06/22/2009 10:01:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (ASAP................As Southern As Possible)
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To: ansel12
I can't think of too many places where he couldn't be reached if he was on the Appalachian Trail. Several ways to do so. Cell phone, a pager especially one in the 462MHZ range that reach all over these mountains, a bag phone if the pager goes off, an Emergency Management Hand Held Radio just to name a few or even a Hand Held Ham Radio.

The A.T. primarily runs either in National Parks or National Forest. Meaning he could also have access to their radio service if prior arrangements are made I'm guessing. There are several ways he can be alone, reachable, and still away from it all hiking the on A.T. and still maintain communication accessibility in an emergency. Then there is an established protocol if he isn't available.

I don't follow the mans politics but I do know about these mountains and the abilities and capabilities to communicate if needed. One thing is Park Rangers go back country and talk to each other all the time on radio's in the VHF band. Another one is the communications towers are generally placed on high ridges and mountains. The Appalachians are generally more developed in both government and private/business communication grids than western mountains. The trail except in a few places follows the crest of the mountains.

With a small bit of planning communications is not an issue. I posted earlier of a kid about 12 years old using his hand operated HAM radio to contact help. This was with high mountains all around him and he was at the base of a water fall.

48 posted on 06/22/2009 10:04:44 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Governors don’t disappear, and your childish game grows tiresome.


49 posted on 06/22/2009 10:05:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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To: cva66snipe

That is why the question is was he or was he not off grid, was this just a vacation or was it a weird act?

As I mentioned before I find it hard to believe that he didn’t take a satellite phone or make arrangements of some sort, that is why I waited for so many hours to ask that question I don’t know why it is taking so long for him to get his story out.


50 posted on 06/22/2009 10:08:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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