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Justices to Weigh Issue of Patenting Business Methods
New York Times ^ | 06/01/2009 | By ADAM LIPTAK

Posted on 06/02/2009 11:42:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: dalight
This statement shows just how ignorant you are about this whole issue. How could someone pack so much ignorance into so few words? I am done wasting time replying to you. Just do a little research before you yammer on about anything, your head is firmly up your tail. Gees.

In other words, you have no response, and you once against resort to personal insult instead of explanation or rebuttal. Thank you for repeatedly invalidating yourself. It saves me the trouble of constantly having to point out that you aren't saying anything, except that you want to entirely deprive software engineers - alone - of access to patents for their work, in the name of corporate "protection."

How could someone have so much indefensible arrogance?

41 posted on 06/05/2009 5:46:47 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Swordmaker
Dr. Donald Knuth's opinion of software patents: http://progfree.org/Patents/knuth-to-pto.txt.
42 posted on 06/05/2009 5:53:08 PM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: Talisker
In other words, you have no response, and you once against resort to personal insult instead of explanation or rebuttal

Yea.. I have a response. I know one heck of alot more about software engineering then you ever will, quit looking out for my interests before you completely put me out of business, thank you.

You are an idiot. Gees. If that qualifies as a personal insult. Take it for how it was intended. You don't have a clue. Whats the reason to waste more time when you are passionately set on not getting one. Live long and Prosper. But, Don't post to me any more.

43 posted on 06/06/2009 2:40:19 PM PDT by dalight
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To: dalight
You are an idiot. Gees. If that qualifies as a personal insult. Take it for how it was intended. You don't have a clue.

In other words, you have no response, and you once against resort to personal insult instead of explanation or rebuttal.

44 posted on 06/06/2009 9:33:53 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker
What does it take, a complaint to JR to get you to shut up. I dropped the topic because of the reasons I stated. You don't have a clue. Get one and then we can talk.

Knee jerk half thought out responses advanced as an argument are a waste of time rebutting. Honestly, I have said it more than 3 times you have no idea of any of the salient facts in this discussion including where software patents came from which I described in detail more than once. They are a product of Judicial activism and created out of whole cloth from the bench. This created a situation where a law was extended to a something it was not designed to deal with. From there, it went down hill. So as you whine about the rights of software engineers, you were ignoring real software people saying.. this whole thing is a nightmare. This Supreme Court case is a result of the whole industry attempting to be freed from the shackles that were created in the 1990's.

Now I know you are going to ignore these facts again... which is why I quit bothering to say the same thing over and over again.

Now crawl under your rock and quit wasting my time.

45 posted on 06/07/2009 5:21:02 AM PDT by dalight
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It's just not "amenable" to corporate thieves who pirate the intellectual property of their employees, and call anyone who challenges their theft "extortionists" (after all, what worth is a software patent from a "trash heap?).

By the way horses tail.. "Work for Hire" law gives the employer rights to any IP developed by their employees by default. Not many employer's are spending time pirating the IP of their employees. Sounds like stupid uninformed neo-marxist drivel. Which is when my wheel fell of with you. This is how poorly informed you are.. completely off base and lost.

Have I defended my insults well enough or do you want more?

46 posted on 06/07/2009 5:27:12 AM PDT by dalight
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Have I defended my insults well enough or do you want more?

Your many, many insults point directly to your lack of ability to answer my assertion of the rights of software engineers to have access to the patent system. What you mis-label "Work-for-Hire" law does not "give" the employer "rights" to their employees work "by default" - if it did, you wouldn't be screeching against software patents, because they'd be irrelevent "by default." The problem is that despite any contractual "agreements," there is a pre-existing fundamental right to one's creativity that is acknowledged by the patent system that poses a serious problem to the FULL corporate seizure of intellectual property "by default." And the only way to end this threat, is to block software engineers from the patent system altogether, which is why you are frothing at the mouth about the subject - you can't escape addressing this problem, and you can't morally justify your position towards it.

Instead you resort to your foul mouth, and your arrogance about your foul mouth, and your flooding of your posts with your arrogant, foul-mouthed insults, in a sophmorically inept attempt to divert the thread from the simple fact that you cannot justify your position of denying patent rights to software engineers for their personal, creative, innovative work.

My position does not come from me alone - it is a well developed position held by many thousands of legal professionals, and which has stopped the destruction of software patents. So it is interesting that you feel so compelled to pour invective upon my head over this subject, rather than simply addressing my rebuttal in a civil manner. It's almost like you have a personal agenda, filled with threats and abuse, that is beyond this subject. Or maybe you're just trying to waste my time and energy.

In any event, you're not worth replying to anymore. You have nothing to say except to swear at me, and your intellectual capacity seems utterly befuddled by my simple, obvious position. And as for "reporting" me to "JR", go right ahead. As you obviously are aware, I have already hit the "abuse" button against you for your filthy mouth, and as far as I'm concerned you deserve to be banned for your deliberate and repeated violations of the TOS here.

This will be my last reply to you. Fill up the thread with hate speech if you want, but it won't change the utter bankruptcy of your moral and legal position, nor the staunch opposition of the millions of software engineers who actually create things, versus the thieves who live only to pillage and snarl at anyone who dares call them on their theft.

As they say in the Middle East, the dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

47 posted on 06/07/2009 4:07:50 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker
If you knew anything about the law, or about patent rights or anything else germane to this discussion, perhaps your barking might seem important to someone.

I am comfortable with anyone reading this exchange, and their ability to see you for who you are.

As for your charge of foul mouth, it has as much support as the rest of the drivel you spout.

The clear evidence is that not a single one of my posts have been pulled. Guess the mods haven't found any foul language. Just more baseless whining from you.

I don't normally get into someone's stuff like this, and go read what Work-for-Hire means, because this is just another important fact that has blown right by you. No wonder you are so comfortable with Judges making up laws based on what they "feel" is right. But, frankly, you seem to have some agenda that is way beyond what is being discussed here.

As far as these thousands of legal professionals.. you just get more bizarre. They make money doing this. Just because John Edwards loves to quote babies from inside the womb who he used to blame their Obstetrician for whatever malady they happened to be born with doesn't make it so, just profitable. This is the point of this case in the first place, because the vast majority of these suits are brought by lawyers for their own back pocket where not a single penny will ever go to the company who wrote or paid for the patent. It is just a system of abuse, and folks have had their fill of it. Just like I have long past had my fill of your stuff.

48 posted on 06/07/2009 6:19:21 PM PDT by dalight
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