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Waterbury Republican-American ^ | May 25, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 05/26/2009 9:18:59 AM PDT by Graybeard58

Massachusetts took a stab at universal care by requiring every resident to buy health insurance, with the state subsidizing the premiums. The annual cost of Commonwealth Care, originally pegged at $245 million, will be $1.3 billion this year. Consequently, the state's health-care costs have spiked 42 percent in three years, and today, health- care spending is 33 percent above the national average.

Now The Boston Globe reports that even though Massachusetts has more doctors per capita than any state, waiting periods to see medical specialists for routine care have grown, again because of Commonwealth Care. The average wait for a specialist now is 50 days; for a family doctor, it's 63, while the average woman who thinks she's pregnant doesn't get to see an obstetrician-gynecologist until her second trimester. But for the busiest physicians, the wait can be as much as a year, simply because narcissistic socialist politicians fancied themselves better qualified to run the state's heath-care system than people with many years of training and experience. And despite the enormous effort and expense, Massachusetts still has failed to achieve universal coverage.

The longer waits, of course, are the consequence of hundreds of thousands of newly insured residents descending on the health-care system. As Dr. Gene Lindsey, president of Harvard Vanguard Medical Associates of Boston describes it: "We had a bus that was pretty full, and then we invited more people on the bus. Now people are standing in the aisles." For 50, 63, sometimes 365 days. More ominously, the independent consultants whose recent report quantified the longer waits said the development "may signal what could happen nationally in the event that access to health care is expanded" via Obamacare.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: healthcare; romneycare
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may signal what could happen nationally

Could happen? Guaranteed to happen.

1 posted on 05/26/2009 9:18:59 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Holding Our Breath; SuperLuminal; LurkedLongEnough; HoosierHawk; RJL; rockinqsranch; paltz; ...

Ping to a Republican-American Editorial.

If you want on or off this list, let me know.


2 posted on 05/26/2009 9:19:54 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (34 shopping days to Graybeard58's 64th. b/day. Selah.)
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To: Graybeard58

It has nothing to do with money and costs. It’s another means by which socialists can impose more regulations to steal people’s freedoms with the goal of replacing our Democratic Republic with socialism.


3 posted on 05/26/2009 9:23:03 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Graybeard58
Shades of TennCare!!! Same results!!!
4 posted on 05/26/2009 9:23:19 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Graybeard58

Isn’t this the sterling “RomneyCare” that Mitt wanted to bring to the nation as part of his “Conservative” plan to rescue us from nationalized health care?

Thought so...


5 posted on 05/26/2009 9:23:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Isn’t this the sterling “RomneyCare” that Mitt wanted to bring to the nation as part of his “Conservative” plan to rescue us from nationalized health care?

I like to quote J.R. on this one:

The liberals made him do it.

6 posted on 05/26/2009 9:26:06 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (34 shopping days to Graybeard58's 64th. b/day. Selah.)
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To: Graybeard58
That Americans either cannot see, or are unwilling to see what is being done to this country by liberals is astonishing. Cap and trade, government-owned auto factories, socialized medicine, deep, deep deficits (borrowed from foreign governments). It's like we're sinking deeper into our own mess and the American public, bamboozled by liberals and their corrupt MSM facilitators, are no simply longer able to reason for themselves. Americans seem to want to be spoon-fed government gruel rather than wrangling up their own steak.
7 posted on 05/26/2009 9:26:51 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: Graybeard58

Yep. No doubt. Sadly, when you join the liberals that makes you a liberal. Right Johnny? ;-)


8 posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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To: Graybeard58

Don’t remember who said this originally, but...

“If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it’s free.”


9 posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:56 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Whoever coined the term "foolproof" underestimated the ingenuity and determination of fools.)
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To: Graybeard58
"Guaranteed to happen."

Already has been happening for decades due to the absurd connection between "healthcare" and employment.

People feel compelled to use a "benefit" even if it is in reality more of a danger than a benefit, just so they can feel like they have "benefitted."

10 posted on 05/26/2009 9:32:45 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

That would be P. J. O’Rourke.


11 posted on 05/26/2009 9:41:12 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Graybeard58

Can only imagine what the cost will be when this sucker hits the larger States.

I’m sure the libtards already have the excuses lined up for what happened in MA, and how their new plan will be better.


12 posted on 05/26/2009 9:45:08 AM PDT by Made In The USA (BO stinks.)
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To: Graybeard58

This has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the AMA is a monopolist organization that manipulates the market by purposefully limiting the number of people allowed to become doctors each year.


13 posted on 05/26/2009 9:50:03 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (The cosmos is about the smallest hole a man can stick his head in. - Chesterton)
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To: Graybeard58

But it will be different if we do it bookmark.

Liberalism, is there a treatment yet?


14 posted on 05/26/2009 9:50:40 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Fine... lets shut down all the law schools and turn them into medical schools !!!

Problem solved LOL

15 posted on 05/26/2009 9:52:31 AM PDT by Nat Turner (Proud two term solider in the 2nd Infantry Div 84-85; 91-92)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
So few people are willing to point that out. My Dad was a veterinarian in a small Wyoming town when I was born. The town was too small to support two veterinarians or two doctors. When one had to leave town, for whatever reason, the other was on call to cover the patients of the other.

It was a logical system for many a small town in similar situations.

Today, the AMA and the lawyers would prefer to see someone die en route to a bigger town than to get the lifesaving care that a RN or a veterinarian could deliver.

16 posted on 05/26/2009 10:03:06 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Graybeard58

Reason number 45295982983412594982 why the individual states are meant to be the incubators of political innovation.

Though, I can still honestly entertain the idea of state-wide health-care coverage (not necessarily that I will support it, but that I will not automatically discount every conceivable incarnation of such a policy, as I so discount such policies at the federal level).

IMO, for any scheme to fly, it would need to include the following elements:

(0) voluntary membership (no sign up, no pay - but no coverage)

(1) elimination of medical malpractice lawsuits for government-covered care (starve the medical-insurance-company + lawyer-parasite scam)

(2) small flat co-pay for every non-emergency treatment (maybe as low as $5 per visit, cash or debit only) to dissuade abuse.

(3) acceptance of alternative licensing practitioners as primary and secondary caregivers in clinics and hospitals (i.e. ending the monopoly of the medical guild system)

(4) no ties to a general funds purse (i.e. all funding must come from fees expressly collected for the purpose - and such monies cannot be raided to pay for other government expenses)

(5) eligibility contingent upon being up to date on state tax filings.

(6) no coverage for cosmetic treatments and optional mutilation procedures

(7) no coverage for illegals

(8) no direct interference with private plans, or mandates for private care clinics or hospitals to provide coverage

(9) incentives for private organizations (companies, clubs, charities, private providers, etc) to fully cover or subsidize health fees for the poor.

(10) Two levels of insurance should be available - one “comprehensive” and the other emergency only, available for different fees. Those who partake in neither government insurance plan should not be eligible for even emergency treatment unless they can otherwise pay for it (private insurance, out of pocket, etc).


17 posted on 05/26/2009 10:04:33 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Actually that would be the gummint that limits doctors. (Not complaining, mind you but...) Actually it would seem more productive to me to limit the number of lawyers but that is just me, I suppose.

Μολὼν λάβε


18 posted on 05/26/2009 10:06:59 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: Vigilanteman

RN’s, especially Nurse Practioners are undervalued by AMA and the lawyers. Some one on a thread years ago couldn’t understand why there weren’t continuing ed programs that allowed GNP’s and Physician’s Assistants to become MD’s if they chose to do that. It’s traditional medical school or nothing. If I had a choice between an freshly minted MD and a GNP with 10-15 years experience, the GNP could handle 90%+ of my ailments.

I normally see a PA at one of the specialist’s office. I actually like him better than the doctor.


19 posted on 05/26/2009 10:11:06 AM PDT by PrincessB (The change he's peddling isn't something I believe in.)
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To: Graybeard58
Could happen? Guaranteed to happen.

Absolutely, esp. when the word gets around and another 20,000,000 people show up from Mexico and Central America, wanting to get on board.

Especially when "sanctuary" policies guarantee them no-hassle access.

20 posted on 05/26/2009 10:16:07 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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