Building Planets: Can’t Make Them, But Hurry (more sophisticated storytelling passed-off as science)

CEH ^ | May 21, 2009

[GodGunsGuts]

That’s how I know I’m right on track ;o)

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Wacka]

If the bible is the answer to all, then tell me who will win the Indy 500 before the race starts!

[Ira_Louvin]

Nice job of quote mining there.

Now lets look at that last quote in the proper context.

“In the end, there is no agreement on how to solve the problem of life’s origin. Martin thinks that research on the topic is “unfalsifiable conjecture” — the best we can hope for is a convincing story. “Even if you were to make a reactor in the laboratory, and put hydrogen and carbon dioxide and nitrogen in one end, and out pops something like Escherichia coli at the other end, you still couldn’t prove that we and our ancestors arose that way. You’d just have a narrative that made it more plausible.”

Russell thinks that if his reactor produces just about anything from tar to E. coli it will have been worthwhile — he quotes Thomas Edison’s remark that he did not build 1,000 failed prototype light bulbs; rather he discovered 1,000 ways that the light bulb wouldn’t work (see page 312 for one that did). Similarly, Russell hopes to help move the field forwards by sorting out what was possible and what was improbable around those warm vents, some 4 billion years ago. That’s the most he can do, he says. “It’s just a step at a time

http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090520/full/459316a.html

Taking things out of context, it just seems so dishonest.

[DoctorMichael]

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[Dog Gone]

Asphaug failed to describe how dust particles could stick together.

Apparently the author never heard of gravity. Gravity is just a "theory", right?

[GodGunsGuts]

It is Asphaug and his fellow evolutionary cosmologists who can’t figure out how dust particles could stick together and build up bolders. I guess to them, gravity is just a “theory.” LOL!

PS Had you bothered to read the article, you would realize that they are trying to figure out how planets could form when the dust particles do not have sufficient gravity to grow on their own, subjected to massive distrubances within the spinning dust disk even if they did manage to briefly form, all while being pulled to the star at the center of it all. Gravity indeed!

[Dog Gone]

Bolders indeed.

Whatever mankind doesn't understand at the time, it attributes to the gods. That is our history. Famine, disease, comets, eclipses, whatever.

The more ignorant you are, the more you attribute everything to God. That should trouble you.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Strangely enough, it's actually quite good!

[varmintman]

Gravity cannot create planets, solar systems, galaxies or any such. Birkeland currents however can. I am not aware of any evidence of God ever having worked outside the laws of physics; if you want violations of mathematical and physical laws in wholesale lots, you need to be talking to the evolosers. They specialize in that sort of thing.