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Weaver: Advice From A Loser
Bob Parks: Black & Right ^ | 5/18/09 | Bob Parks

Posted on 05/18/2009 9:05:17 AM PDT by bocopar

So, given the state of the party today, how much credence do we give advice coming from a "close" (former) adviser to Senator John McCain?

The Republican strategist who helped Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman prepare for a possible presidential run says the Republican party is in for a devastating defeat if its guiding lights are Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney. "If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney, then we're headed for a blowout," says strategist John Weaver, who advised Huntsman and was for years a close adviser to Sen. John McCain. "That's just the truth."
Let's take a look at this somber prediction from strategist John Weaver....

(Excerpt) Read more at black-and-right.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheney; dickcheney; johnmccain; johnweaver; limbaugh; palin; rino; rinoromney; romney; romneyvsgop; rushlimbaugh; sarahpalin
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1 posted on 05/18/2009 9:05:18 AM PDT by bocopar
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To: bocopar

This guy ran a winning campaign for a Republican in Utah? He must be a genius.


2 posted on 05/18/2009 9:07:32 AM PDT by steve8714 (Modern liturgy; touchy, feely, inane.)
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To: bocopar

OK, enough already. The GOP centrists who dominate the party are unscathed by the lessons of Reagan and, despite the results of ‘06 and ‘08, still think the winning formula is to be even more liberal and abandon conservative values completely so as to appeal to “the middle”. Just more advice from another loser who will never get it. So what?


3 posted on 05/18/2009 9:11:00 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The GOP is populated by "moderates"; conservatives are just their useful idiots. Go third party!)
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To: bocopar
Nothing like these types of RINOs actively, eagerly, and openly collaborating with Democrats and the corrupt MSM. Who else has fostered this “Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh” meme? Who? then why are these RINO’s feeding into this and adding additional legitimacy to this?
4 posted on 05/18/2009 9:13:40 AM PDT by Obadiah (Obama: Chains you can believe in!)
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To: bocopar
The democrats are doing their best to destroy Sarah Palin, in a constant demeaning, dismissive,slanderous,inaccurate way.

They fear her and are doing all in their power to get Republicans to believe the tripe they daily disgorge on various programs ... all the liberal TV programing on going.

That should tell us how really Great Sarah Palin is .

5 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:22 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: bocopar
Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney

Not there's a trifecta you can believe in. Add Fred Thompson and it's the Four Horseman of Conservatism.

6 posted on 05/18/2009 9:16:22 AM PDT by McGruff (When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. - Will Rogers)
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Noun 1. blowout - an easy victory

romp, runaway, shoo-in, walkaway, laugher, triumph, victory

7 posted on 05/18/2009 9:22:54 AM PDT by McGruff (When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. - Will Rogers)
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To: bocopar
John Weaver got the inside scoop at the White House the other day by eavesdropping while he was shining Obama’s shoes.
8 posted on 05/18/2009 9:23:07 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Communism, let's give it one more chance, this time they'll do it right.)
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“The Republican strategist”

Oop’s they have the Republican spelled wrong it should be Democrat.


9 posted on 05/18/2009 9:25:17 AM PDT by Cheetahcat (Osamabama Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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Please, let me ammend that statement to reflect reality: "If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney the Democrats and their media stooges, then we're headed for a blowout".

We have to define ourselves.

10 posted on 05/18/2009 9:37:28 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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Worked so well last time, didn't it?
11 posted on 05/18/2009 9:38:13 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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Well, it's possible, of course, that they are right. Rahm Emanuel certainly made the right move in selecting stealth leftists to run in DINO districts in 2006 and 2008, and there's nothing wrong in returning the favor in the Northeast and Florida.

However, consider this: The main objection to nominating Ronald Reagan was that he would get blown out. The media talked about him the way they talk about Sarah and Rush.

And he won 45 and 49 states.

There really is no reason to nominate a moderate Republican for any national office, not because there aren't some decent ones, but because they are certain to lose.

As Harry Truman said (with the parties switched), "given the choice between a Democrat and a Democrat, the people will take the real Democrat every time".

If we have to lose, let's lose with our colors nailed to the mast. And who knows? Maybe we will surprise the media - again.

12 posted on 05/18/2009 9:38:15 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: Navy Patriot
John Weaver got the inside scoop at the White House the other day by eavesdropping while he was shining Obama’s shoes

It wasn't the shoes he was down there for.

13 posted on 05/18/2009 9:39:26 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They are willing to kill for socialism...but not to die for it.)
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To: bocopar

I am more inclined than ever to vote for the person based on conservative values.

I will NEVER again vote for someone just because they have an “R” after their name.


14 posted on 05/18/2009 9:41:32 AM PDT by alarm rider (Any country that tells you what light bulb to use is not a free country.)
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If Ronald Reagan were here, I think he’d agree that Cheney, Palin and Limbaugh are exactly what we need to aspire to. They are committed to lower government, individual liberty and better ideas for energy and economics.


15 posted on 05/18/2009 9:50:12 AM PDT by Tigercap
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I have to admit it: I voted for Mitt Romney in our primary, even though he had pulled out, rather than vote for McCain. Since he has joined the chorus of the other RINOs about moving left, and unleashed his hounds on Sarah, I have come to believe that his people worked with McCain to discredit her. At the moment, she is the only one I would support in 2012. Since she is unlikely to get the nomination with the entire party apparatus arrayed against her, it looks like a sure win for Obama (unless the Dems take him out in the primaries)....

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16 posted on 05/18/2009 9:50:57 AM PDT by hoosier hick ((I'm back to..) Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo. (Barry Goldwater))
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That’s precisely what happened.

Romney believes he’s entitled to the Republican nomination, but as someone who’s personally witnessed how he destroyed the MA GOP, I will never vote for Mitt Romney for anything... EVER.


17 posted on 05/18/2009 9:53:34 AM PDT by bocopar (Author's Response)
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This is amazing. The conservatives have abandoned the party, conservatives will not vote for moderates in future elections. The argument that conservatives will vote for the best of two bad choices no longer holds.

The moderate party leaders should be trying to find common ground with conservatives not driving them away.


18 posted on 05/18/2009 9:56:01 AM PDT by econ cents
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"If it's 2012 and our party is defined by Palin and Limbaugh and Cheney, then we're headed for a blowout," says strategist John Weaver, who advised Huntsman and was for years a close adviser to Sen. John McCain....

Mr. Weaver in case you have not noticed the candidate that you describe for the Republican party is a John McCain type candidate. Are you aware that the President of the United States is Obama and in addition the Democrats handed us our ass sliced and diced and sauteed in the Senate and House.

AND YOU WANT MORE OF THIS????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

19 posted on 05/18/2009 10:18:59 AM PDT by cpdiii (roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
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To: bocopar; Leisler; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; EternalVigilance; Reagan Man; Elsie; ...
"Ex-McCain aide says he's still loyal
Weaver...provided the critical, on-the-record foundation for stories denigrating (Senator McCain)
After The New York Times published a story Thursday suggesting that John McCain had
an improper relationship with lobbyist Vicki Iseman, his campaign took to the airwaves to trash the story
... Weaver said that when the Times confronted him in December
with details of his meeting with Iseman, he felt compelled to corroborate the story.
Weaver vigorously maintains that he is loyal to McCain. (but note)
... the campaign brought Weaver in just last week to help broker Mitt Romney’s endorsement."


"8. The person who has the clearest chapter-and-verse hold on Mitt Romney's past statements and actions on abortion, gay rights, and other hot button issues is
a. A Boston Globe reporter.
b. John Weaver.
c. Mitt Romney.
d. A DNC oppo researcher.."


"Romney would not say whether he’d been vetted,
but did insist that the vice presidency was a subject he had never even so much discussed with McCain,
with whom he often tangled bitterly in the primary campaign.
So I tried another tack, recalling that I had been in a car with McCain and his then aide John Weaver,
reporting a piece for V.F. in the fall of 2006,
just after McCain delivered an address at Boston College’s opening convocation.
Weaver’s phone rang, and it was someone at B.C.,
informing him that Romney’s office had just called to ask when he would be invited to speak."

20 posted on 05/18/2009 10:20:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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