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Saudi inventer of GPS "Killer Chip" denied patent in Germany
World Net Daily ^ | May 16, 2009 | Jay Baggett

Posted on 05/17/2009 8:18:21 AM PDT by NorwegianViking

By Jay Baggett © 2009 WorldNetDaily

You can run, but you cannot hide ... and if you try, one push of a button will cause a lethal poison to immediately begin flowing through your body.

That's the Orwellian future a Saudi inventor was seeking to bring to Germany until that nation's patent office announced last week it was rejecting his request to patent what has been dubbed the "Killer Chip."

The tiny semiconductor device is intended to be surgically implanted or injected into the body, according to the patent application, for the purpose of tracking visitors from other nations by global-positioning satellites and preventing them from overstaying their visas...

Under Germany's patent law, inventions that are unethical or a danger to the public are not recognized. recent times the number of people sought by security forces has increased," the Jeddah-based inventor wrote in his application...

The device would emit encrypted radio waves that would be picked up by satellites and "used to track fugitives from justice, terrorists, illegal immigrants, criminals, political opponents, defectors, domestic help, and Saudi Arabians who don't return home from pilgrimages," Sweden's The Local reported....

German law allows foreigners to apply for patents in the country through a local representative. In the case of the "Killer Chip," a Munich law firm was used....

That leaves open the possibility the Saudi inventor will find success in another country.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fourthamendment; germany; gps; gpstracking; killerchip; patent; saudiarabia; waronterror; warrantlesssearch
"The device would emit encrypted radio waves that would be picked up by satellites and "used to track fugitives from justice, terrorists, illegal immigrants, criminals, political opponents, defectors, domestic help, and Saudi Arabians who don't return home from pilgrimages," Sweden's The Local reported. -------so now we have more of an idea of why the U.S. Government census takers are using "GPS" entries in the 2010 (2009) census.---
1 posted on 05/17/2009 8:18:22 AM PDT by NorwegianViking
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To: NorwegianViking
so now we have more of an idea of why the U.S. Government census takers are using "GPS" entries in the 2010 (2009) census.---

Bullcrap. People are mobile. Having a fixed location of a home as a means to kill someone with this device is idiotic.

But to the conspiracy-minded, since both involve GPS, it must be part of a LARGER conspiracy!

2 posted on 05/17/2009 8:21:44 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: NorwegianViking

From the headline I thought it was apatent for a device which would “kill” GPs devices.

Now THAT would be useful!


3 posted on 05/17/2009 8:24:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: dirtboy

So, in your mind, why are they using GPS when taking the census?


4 posted on 05/17/2009 8:26:07 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: NorwegianViking
It's called efficient use of technology, for the same reasons that trucking companies use GPS to track shipments.

Not everything is devious. I'm far more concerned with having Rahm Emmanuel in charge of the Census Bureau to help engineer more Dem districts.

5 posted on 05/17/2009 8:28:19 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: NorwegianViking
The device would emit encrypted radio waves that would be picked up by satellites

Science fiction I suspect.

Maybe I am behind the times as far as chip technology is concerned but I doubt that a chip small enough to be injected would have enough power to be tracked by satellites.

but such technology could certainly still be implemented by having chip readers stationed at places where people frequent as a matter of daily living; gas stations, grocery stores, street corners, movie theaters and so on.

6 posted on 05/17/2009 8:29:32 AM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: dirtboy
The fact remains that the US government has no need to have a data base of every citiens home. My homes GPS location was inserted into that data base without my permission, and I will no longer fill out any census questionaires, as long as that data base exists.. I also believe that trespass was committed by the census taker to get that data entry 40 feet from my home. Basically this gPS data base can be used for satellite surveillance, drone surveillance, and even can be uploaded to any airborn weapons system. That data base shoould not exist, and it portends some very nasty activities by our government in the future , designed to limit free speech and freedom of movement, and the enjoyment of ones property and privacy.

This GPS data base constitutes the governments ability to execute warrantless searches on anyones property.

Thats not a conspiracy. Its fact.

And if you think that Census data is secure, tell that to the thousands of Japanese who were rounded up into concentration camps during WWII using census data.

And there was not even a whimper from even Libertarians over this federal GPS data base. Its very bad news.

7 posted on 05/17/2009 8:34:19 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: BenLurkin
From the headline I thought it was apatent for a device which would “kill” GPs devices.

Now THAT would be useful!

Is should be a simple mater to broadcast a signal that would mess with the timing and confuse a GPS receiver.

8 posted on 05/17/2009 8:35:14 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: dirtboy

I totally agree with your observation regarding Emmanuel in charge of the census.


9 posted on 05/17/2009 8:36:21 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: NorwegianViking

10 posted on 05/17/2009 8:37:34 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Candor7

The title for your property includes your longitude and your latitude data, worse yet the government has it in their records.


11 posted on 05/17/2009 8:38:42 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Thanks for the picture!....You are really a wizard to find one to apply to the article so quickly!


12 posted on 05/17/2009 8:39:38 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: Candor7
The fact remains that the US government has no need to have a data base of every citiens home.

They already have a database of addresses. How do you think Census data is captured?

My homes GPS location was inserted into that data base without my permission, and I will no longer fill out any census questionaires, as long as that data base exists..

Your home's physical location is in the public domain. Someone can just drive down the street with a GPS locator and acquire such, whether in the private sector or public sector.

This level of paranoia makes us look like nutbars. We really need to evalute stories to see where actual problems lie, such as efforts by the Dems to stifle free speech or gun rights. All I see here is a means for the Census Bureau to function more efficiently - and, since the Census is mandated by the Constitution, IMO it is good for them to try and operate more efficiently and maybe save the taxpayer a few bucks.

13 posted on 05/17/2009 8:40:21 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Mark was here

Mark....thanks for that bit of useful information. I had not thought of that wealth of information being tapped into. The use for that information is endless. Appreciate your observation!


14 posted on 05/17/2009 8:42:47 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: Candor7
And if you think that Census data is secure, tell that to the thousands of Japanese who were rounded up into concentration camps during WWII using census data.

Good thing they had GPS back then to make such a roundup possible.

Whoops, no, they did not. No technology needed. They didn't even have databases back then.

Whether your home address is found with an old-fashioned paper map, or with GPS, is immaterial. The larger issue would be abuse of Census data, which is independent of how your address is located.

15 posted on 05/17/2009 8:43:13 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Candor7; dirtboy

One of the reasons for the census takers being required to take GPS coordinate readings and enter them along with other census data taken, is to keep the census takers from CHEATING.

They can’t just sit at home and make data up.

So, in a sense, it is being done to ‘protect’ you.


16 posted on 05/17/2009 8:46:45 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: dirtboy

I see you already knew.


17 posted on 05/17/2009 8:48:44 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: NorwegianViking

Darn. I was hoping the title meant that somebody had invented a way to “kill” GPS tracking.


18 posted on 05/17/2009 8:51:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NorwegianViking

I store all my movies digitally now, so since it was the first thing I thought of when I read the article, I queued it up and snapped it. :)


19 posted on 05/17/2009 8:52:50 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: NorwegianViking

20 posted on 05/17/2009 8:54:53 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: dirtboy
"Bullcrap."

Dittos!! If you want to know the global coordinates of yours or anyone else's address, just go here:

http://geocoder.us/

21 posted on 05/17/2009 9:01:10 AM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: davisfh

google earth


22 posted on 05/17/2009 9:23:48 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Lord protect us from our overseers)
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To: NorwegianViking

Thank you for your support. I would have responded earlier, but I was outside taking the numbers off of my house.


23 posted on 05/17/2009 9:23:48 AM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I’m with you and I can’t but wonder how healthy our societies have become with all that “extra” radiation being beamed down on us.


24 posted on 05/17/2009 10:14:55 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: USMCPOP

Thanks for the pic. Which episode is this from? I really like South Park—most of the time....I missed this one, bet it was great.


25 posted on 05/17/2009 10:18:15 AM PDT by NorwegianViking (Organizing for America)
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To: Mark was here

The US already has technology to make GPS useless when needed. There have been quite a few NOTAMs warning pilots that GPS will not work on certain dates and times in areas near military bases in the southwest.


26 posted on 05/17/2009 10:19:48 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Dust in the Wind
"google earth"

Yes, and I didn't even think of that. And you get altitude as well. I suppose that, if the government plans to hit your abode with an altitude (pressure) activated bomb, altitude would be important.

27 posted on 05/17/2009 10:53:02 AM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: dirtboy
The issue is not whether GPS is needed to round up people, it has to do with privacy and the constitutional necessity for a warrant to do searches of citizen property.

In effect, this data base makes it possible for a warrantless visual search of one's property.That includes searching with ground penetating radar as well as visual search.

The GPS census data base is just about as nefarious as it gets. The census does not need it and has no cogent reason to keep it other than for surveillance.

28 posted on 05/17/2009 11:02:28 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: NorwegianViking
all that “extra” radiation being beamed down on us.

Funny. I think about that all the time. One hundred years ago there were no TVs, cell phones, radios.... think about all the "waves" constantly passing through our bodies.

29 posted on 05/17/2009 11:02:58 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: NorwegianViking

“Thanks for the pic. Which episode is this from? I really like South Park—most of the time....I missed this one, bet it was great.”

I missed that one and a whole lot more. The kids used to watch it. I usually didn’t stay up that late. :)

Maybe it’s this one: http://www.southparkstudios.com/guide/704


30 posted on 05/17/2009 11:04:17 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Candor7

Oh, that is just nonsense. Your GPS location has about as much to do with your privacy as the number on the front of your house. Get a grip.


31 posted on 05/17/2009 11:27:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Pontiac

“Science fiction I suspect.”

A transmitter that would have enough power to transmit to a satellite would require one heavy duty set of batteries.


32 posted on 05/17/2009 11:29:08 AM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: Candor7

“My homes GPS location was inserted into that data base without my permission”

I can GPS locate your home with my Iphone in 30 seconds. I can do it from anywhere in the world just by knowing your address. The database is know as Google Earth.


33 posted on 05/17/2009 11:31:15 AM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: dirtboy

“Someone can just drive down the street with a GPS locator and acquire such, whether in the private sector or public sector.”

They don’t even have to do that. They can do it on Google Earth from anywhere.


34 posted on 05/17/2009 11:32:41 AM PDT by yazoo (was)
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To: NorwegianViking
***You can run, but you cannot hide ... and if you try, one push of a button will cause a lethal poison to immediately begin flowing through your body. ***

I am reminded of an old si-fi short story I read back in the early 1960s. REPENT, CRIED THE TICK TOCK MAN!

Everyone is given a certain amount of time to live and each time you are late that amount of time is deducted from your lifespan. Everything is controlled by bureau run by “The Tick Tock man"!(not his real title, though). When you are late enough times to use up your allotted life span he pushes a button and you are eliminated.

(Cut to the ending) The tick tock man goes to his office and is told he is a few minutes late...”Nonsense!” he says, “Check your watch!”

35 posted on 05/17/2009 11:48:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (14. Guns only have two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: yazoo
Thats the standard answe I get. The problem is that its in a goverment data base and can be abused by goverment.

For example, I can take your personal photograph without you knowing it, and post it all over the internet.Everyone can see it, just as on google anyone can find an individual GPS location.

But if the government has everyones photo is a government data base, it can be misused for very nefarious purposes, it just doesn't need to have them , there is no logical purpose except for surveillance.

Surely you must see that difference.

Generally people are falling into your logic which makes a perfect government cover for setting up a GPS surveillance data base, which is exactly what the census GPS data is.

36 posted on 05/17/2009 11:58:39 AM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: dirtboy
I see, going to do some nude sunbathing on your porch now are you? LOL.

Can't meet a cogent argument and getting touchy eh?

Warrentless searches are no joke, and we have a government that will have no hesitation in future use of the GPS data base to do just that. No right wing extremist nude sun bathing on your poch for you! You have an eye in the sky.

Hard to get use to the fact that government is now your enemy. And that is exactly what the Obama government is, the enemy of freedom and the enemy of the people.

37 posted on 05/17/2009 12:05:12 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule ,derision ,truth. (member NRA)
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To: Candor7

“No right wing extremist nude sun bathing on your poch for you”

Now I finally see where you`re coming from.


38 posted on 05/17/2009 12:08:47 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: dirtboy

yeah, where’s the conspiracy in a surgicaly implanted micro-chip that keeps track of your whereabouts and then kills you if someone deems that appropriate? The nut jobs will see a conspiracy in anything, won’t they? LOL


39 posted on 05/17/2009 12:08:50 PM PDT by RC one
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To: USMCPOP
You were close:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/153974
40 posted on 05/17/2009 12:10:34 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: USMCPOP
Oops wrong one this is the full version:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103622/
41 posted on 05/17/2009 12:14:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: RC one
yeah, where’s the conspiracy in a surgicaly implanted micro-chip that keeps track of your whereabouts and then kills you if someone deems that appropriate? The nut jobs will see a conspiracy in anything, won’t they?

Try to pay attention. The poster of the thread was trying to tie this device to the Census getting GPS locations for residences in the US.

42 posted on 05/17/2009 12:14:28 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Oh, I think I was paying attention to the topic at hand just fine thank you.


43 posted on 05/17/2009 12:18:14 PM PDT by RC one
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To: Candor7
Can't meet a cogent argument and getting touchy eh?

You're a legend in your own mind.

Several posters have shown they can get your GPS location from an address using widely available applications. You have for some strange reason refused to address those factual statements. I wonder why...

Warrentless searches are no joke, and we have a government that will have no hesitation in future use of the GPS data base to do just that.

You need to demonstrate one thing - how the government having a GPS location, as opposed to just your physical street address, somehow aids a warrantless search of your premises. You really are showing a complete lack of comprehension of what GPS is - it is just a description of a location, no different from your physical address that already is in countless databases, both public and private.

Until you can come up with a viable reason for such, you're just pulling it out of your arse.

No right wing extremist nude sun bathing on your poch for you! You have an eye in the sky.

Now, please try to explain how a satellite several hundred miles up in the sky can peer through the roof of your porch.

Hard to get use to the fact that government is now your enemy. And that is exactly what the Obama government is, the enemy of freedom and the enemy of the people.

Oh, I have no misunderstanding of the Obama Administration. But I also know there are countless nutbar conspiracy theories out there that are used to paint rational conservatives as nutbars. You know, like the idiocy you are spouting here.

44 posted on 05/17/2009 12:21:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RC one
Oh, I think I was paying attention to the topic at hand just fine thank you.

Ah, another nutbar, then...

45 posted on 05/17/2009 12:22:17 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
>>IMO it is good for them to try and operate more efficiently and maybe save the taxpayer a few bucks.<<

This statement kinda struck me funny. This past weekend I was talking to a woman that said she was working for the census.

I asked her (just curious) if it were true that the census included GPS way-points. She replied yes.

She then began to tell me that the census was a joke in that it was so inefficient. Training manuals and videos were almost unattainable contrary to reassurances.

The database software being used to input the data was hosed and not user friendly.

Save a few tax bucks? Not according to this woman.

Just a lil input.

46 posted on 05/17/2009 12:45:11 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: NorwegianViking

This would be perfect for released Gitmo inmates. Track them to their terrorist cell mates, then pop them off.


47 posted on 05/17/2009 2:40:25 PM PDT by brianr10
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To: Candor7

I’m not sure what you mean by a GPS surveillance database. Your address is a public record and has always been since paper and pencils were invented. What difference does it make if the government has the GPS coordinates to your house or not? The coordinates are irrelevant, what counts is your address and they have that already. In fact, they’ve always had it.


48 posted on 05/17/2009 3:49:22 PM PDT by yazoo (was)
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