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Pelosi Knew about Waterboarding from the Start (CIA memo leaked)
Human Events ^ | 5/7/09 | Jed Babbin

Posted on 05/07/2009 4:52:13 PM PDT by Clinton's a liar

She knew from the beginning. According to a CIA memorandum summarizing briefings to Congress on the use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terrorist detainees, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Ca) knew from the very beginning that those techniques -- including waterboarding -- were being used on September 2, 2002.

According to the memo the very first briefing listed is 9/4/02 with then Rep. Porter Goss & Pelosi. The summary of the briefing says:

“Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of the particular EITs that had been employed.”

This directly contradicts Pelosi’s story, that “we were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation methods were used.”

As HUMAN EVENTS reported earlier, Pelosi - by objecting to the use of the enhanced interrogation techniques - could have stopped them but didn't.

Pelosi's misstatements were apparently intended to divert attention from her and other Democrats in Congress who knew of all the enhanced interrogation methods -- in detail -- apparently as soon as they were being used.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; babbin; cia; ciainterrogation; ciainterrogationmemo; demlies; duplicate; liar; lying; marieantoinette; nancypelosi; notbreakingnews; pelosi; queennancy; waterboarding
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To: Clinton's a liar

The CIA’s Fight With Obama
By Jack Kelly
The CIA’s war against President Bush was motivated by ass covering, or by political partisanship. But with President Obama, it’s personal.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/05/the_cias_fight_with_obama_96333.html


141 posted on 05/07/2009 11:39:07 PM PDT by anglian
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To: anglian

Panic Time for Pelosi
by Jed Babbin
05/01/2009 Pelosi — as I wrote earlier in the week — was one of the few members of Congress briefed in detail on the harsh interrogation methods and who could have stopped them but didn’t. Pelosi first said that she wasn’t briefed about waterboarding. Then she sort of admitted she had, inserting that the CIA only said that they might do it, not that they were going to do it. Which could have been plagiarized from John Kerry’s 2004 circular explanation of his vote for the war in Iraq.

As badly as that hurt Pelosi, what apparently pushed her into a panic was the feedback she and other Democrats are getting from the CIA. Pelosi learned that her actions, and those of President Obama and other Democrats over the past ninety days have so damaged CIA morale that the agency’s ability to function could be in danger.

As a result, two emergency closed-door meetings were called this week on Capitol Hill.

The first meeting, on Tuesday evening, was attended by Pelosi, Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-Tx) and others. The following night, Pelosi and some or all of the other attendees met with CIA Director Leon Panetta, also behind closed doors.

No Republicans were invited to either meeting which means the Democrats were assessing the damage and deciding how to maneuver their way out from under the responsibility for it. Spin and strategy.

Morale among in the spy agency is so low because of the relentless assault on the CIA in President Obama’s first 100 days. The first blow to the CIA was his decision to close the terrorist detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba without any plan on what to do with the 240 dangerous detainees housed there. Many CIA employees believe these people to be killers, responsible for the deaths of CIA operatives overseas. Many in the CIA apparently see this as a betrayal.

The Obama administration plan to set some of these people loose in the US was despite CIA objections.

And then came the president’s decision to release the so-called “torture memos” and the disavowal of CIA interrogation methods.

The president’s on-again, off-again promise to not prosecute CIA operatives who had conducted the harsher interrogations has left many in the CIA uncertain of his real intentions. Leaving up to the Attorney General whether to prosecute the Bush-era lawyers who wrote the “torture memos” has added to the already great doubt about the safety and security of CIA interrogators’ jobs, and more.

By the end of the meeting Wednesday, Pelosi, Reyes and Panetta apparently determined that damage control had to begin immediately.

Later Wednesday evening, Reyes sent an unprecedented letter to CIA director Panetta making a sort of apology to the CIA. Reyes’ cover letter asks Panetta to “…disseminate it to the CIA workforce as soon as possible.” (At this writing, the letter has not yet been distributed.) The letter to CIA employees is a very odd mixture of praise for the CIA and CYA for Reyes. (Click here to read the letter-—> http://www.humanevents.com/downloads-pdfs/Letter%20to%20CIA%20Workforce.pdf

Reyes begins, “In recent days, as the public debate regarding CIA’s interrogation practices has raged, you have been very much in my thoughts,” expressing his “…deep gratitude for the work you do each day.”

But then Reyes retreats into lawyer-isms: “First and foremost, I wholeheartedly support the President’s decision that no CIA officer or contractor will be prosecuted for authorized actions they took in the context of interrogations.” In other words, if some young prosecutor or Capitol Hill staffer decides you did something unauthorized, you’re sunk.

And then comes the CYA for Reyes: “One important lesson to me from the CIA’s interrogation operations involves congressional oversight. I’m going to examine closely ways in which we can change the law to make our own oversight of the CIA more meaningful; I want to move from mere notification to real discussion.”

The fact that “mere notification” of the interrogation methods was comprised of a virtual tour of them matters not at all: Reyes’ letter says Congress should be held innocent of any wrongdoing. If CIA morale was bad before the letter, it will be vastly worse after it.

Worst of all is the next sentence: “Good oversight can lead to partnership, and that’s what I am looking to bring about.” If there’s anything that could possibly make the CIA even less effective than it was before 9-11, that’s it. The nation’s security requires that the CIA be strengthened and more effective, not bogged down with congressional tourism.

And, by the way, what Reyes proposes is unconstitutional because it violates the separation of powers doctrine. Not that Reyes would care. But the prospect of more Congressional involvement is just another morale killer.

Obama’s first 100 days did enormous damage to our entire intelligence community. It’s all too clear that Speaker Pelosi will do much more if she believes it will help her out of the corner she’s in. Panicked people make mistakes. Pelosi has made a big one in propelling the inquisition into the CIA interrogations She will make more, and the damage to our intelligence gathering ability may be fatal to many Americans.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31689 House Speaker Nancy Pelosi held two hush hush meetings with CIA Director Leon Panetta and Democratic members of the Intelligence Committee last week.

“Her fear and frustration have apparently given way to panic after word reached her of the CIA’s reaction to the damage she, President Obama and other Democrats have done to the spy agency in the last three months, wrote Jed Babbin, a former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense, in Human Events May 1. “Pelosi learned that her actions and those of President Obama have so damaged CIA morale that the agency’s ability to function could be in danger.”

Other Western intelligence services regard the Obama administration with contempt and rising concern, an officer of the DGSE, France’s military intelligence agency, told my friend Jack Wheeler (the real life Indiana
Jones) last week.

“All of us in our little community are worried — us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv,” the DGSE officer told Jack. “It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/05/05/the_cias_fight_with_obama_96333.html


142 posted on 05/07/2009 11:40:06 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Clinton's a liar; KLT

Thank you, CaL!

Give my FReegards, and a ^ 5 to Jed!

You guys are terrific!

KLT...what the heck is that monstrosity?
Does it have a name? lol


143 posted on 05/07/2009 11:56:53 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Rightwing extremist on the DHS hit list...and proud of it!)
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To: dixiechick2000

I think it’s a real life photo of Nancy without her Botox.....good thing she has those millions and millions of dollars to spend in real estate and campaign cash...imagine what she’d look like without it..


144 posted on 05/08/2009 12:05:44 AM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: KLT

I noticed that you politely didn’t mention the StarKist thingy. lol

I’m off to bed...nitey nite!


145 posted on 05/08/2009 12:12:14 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Rightwing extremist on the DHS hit list...and proud of it!)
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To: dixiechick2000

hagn darlin feel good


146 posted on 05/08/2009 12:14:29 AM PDT by KLT (A damn Yankee, from the great state of Mississippi....Go Freepers Go!)
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To: Clinton's a liar

Good to see the dems going after the CIA. And the CIA getting some payback.


147 posted on 05/08/2009 12:25:07 AM PDT by oscars300
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To: Clinton's a liar

(D)Culture of corruption.


148 posted on 05/08/2009 12:27:13 AM PDT by MaxMax (America's population is 304-Million. Obama must punish America for the other 4.7 Billion)
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To: potlatch

Is that Shari Lewis’ Lamb Chop on the right in the fright wig


149 posted on 05/08/2009 12:35:14 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Lets Be Frank

OBAMA is a liar also


150 posted on 05/08/2009 1:59:06 AM PDT by Ulysse (ves)
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To: SeattleBruce

Traitor=Democrats=Press

Yes that is much more accurate when it came to GWBush era CIA leeks


151 posted on 05/08/2009 2:03:29 AM PDT by dennisw (Your action becomes your habit. Your habit becomes your character, that becomes your destiny)
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To: Clinton's a liar

Uh Oh, one of the darned ole linked Memos. Shucks!


152 posted on 05/08/2009 2:13:08 AM PDT by Paige ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing," Edmund Burke)
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To: Clinton's a liar

ROFL... Oh what a tangled web they’ve weaved...


153 posted on 05/08/2009 2:25:52 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Cuttnhorse

I wonder how long it will be before Obama starts crying that the “CIA is after me” like his little buddies Chavez, and Castro... I’m sure Nancy’s already crying — unless her botox makes that impossible... Poor Nancy...


154 posted on 05/08/2009 2:27:55 AM PDT by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

We must have hearings.


155 posted on 05/08/2009 2:55:15 AM PDT by reefdiver (Freedom - From Govt. - Educators - CNN)
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To: Clinton's a liar
Pelosi continues to merit her place in my Facebook list of "Five people I'd most like to punch in the face."

(uh, it's humor, Comrade)

156 posted on 05/08/2009 3:23:59 AM PDT by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Private First Class - 1/16/09 - Parris Island, SC)
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To: A. Morgan

“Connie, is that you?

Pelosi Caught In Bald-Faced Lie— Report Shows She Was Briefed on “Use” of Waterboarding Back in 2002”

Obey must be looking for that top spot.

Pelosi Lied, Americans Died!!!


157 posted on 05/08/2009 3:44:49 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Welcome to Germany, circa 1933.)
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To: Clinton's a liar

Madame Speaker...how much did you know and when did you know it....


158 posted on 05/08/2009 3:58:39 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (The ground at Arlington is moving & shaking.)
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To: 50cal Smokepole

Absolutely.

LLS


159 posted on 05/08/2009 4:09:04 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my President... NEVER!!!)
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To: Clinton's a liar
The Compost is reporting this as well. Pelosi will say something stupid and deny it and all will move on. Liberal Democrats can do whatever they want.

WHEN will this all be made right as rain, in truth? They are evil.

CIA Says Pelosi Was Briefed on Use of 'Enhanced Interrogations'

160 posted on 05/08/2009 4:16:04 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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