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Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts
The Washington Independent ^ | 5-5-09 | David Weigel

Posted on 05/05/2009 6:14:34 AM PDT by AmericanHunter

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To: djsherin; All

Seems to be that some ‘squishy-middlers’ are listening to Ron Paul, too.

My Husband for one. He’ll listen to Ron Paul, but not me? LOL! No matter. As long as the message is delivered. :)


41 posted on 05/05/2009 10:30:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: dcwusmc

Ex-CMC....

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/gunny-g-ex-cmc-i-take-my-daily-orders-from/


42 posted on 05/05/2009 10:52:12 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: GBA

...Bravo, Finally, someone is taking time to look at Pauls opposition to the Iraq war and his stand on foreign policy, instead of dismissing it without even reading it...


43 posted on 05/05/2009 10:53:31 AM PDT by gargoyle
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To: gunnyg

I can’t wait until Henry the K bites the big one at last. He’s been wasting my air ever since he sold out all of the MIAs just so he could get his Nobel Peace Prize. What a disgusting waste of protoplasm!


44 posted on 05/05/2009 11:03:52 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/coup-detat-seven-days-in-may/


45 posted on 05/05/2009 11:09:19 AM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"They'll no more allow themselves to be honestly audited They are audited. Regularly.

Yes, they are "audited" by whom they wish, in areas they wish, and release the info that they chose to, but there are major areas like their relationships to foreign banks and currency issuance that are completely off-limits to that audit. HR 1207 would remove those restrictions and give Congress transparency in those areas that are now off-limits.

The way you continually defend the Fed Reserve on this issue, you'd think that you work for them -- do you?

46 posted on 05/05/2009 11:53:04 AM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe
Yes, they are "audited" by whom they wish, in areas they wish

Yes, audits look at flow of funds, loan agreements, earnings etc.

You don't think the audits show that stuff?

The way you continually defend the Fed Reserve on this issue

Pointing out Ron's idiocy means I'm defending the Fed? LOL!

you'd think that you work for them -- do you?

No. Just tired of all the ignorance on FR about them. Makes the rest of us look bad.

47 posted on 05/05/2009 11:58:10 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
They are audited. Regularly.

gold ownership? gold trading?

48 posted on 05/05/2009 12:05:20 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

Why not?


49 posted on 05/05/2009 12:06:01 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I’ve never seen it printed up in a Fed report, have you?


50 posted on 05/05/2009 12:09:30 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
I've seen their gold positions.

I don't think they trade gold. Do you? Why?

51 posted on 05/05/2009 12:10:29 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Former Fed Chairman Paul Volker wrote the following in his memoirs: “Joint intervention in gold sales to prevent a steep rise in the price of gold, however, was not undertaken. That was a mistake.”


52 posted on 05/05/2009 12:12:34 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

So they didn’t trade gold.


53 posted on 05/05/2009 12:13:21 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: palmer

FEDERAL RESERVE statistical release

H.4.1
Factors Affecting Reserve Balances of Depository Institutions and
Condition Statement of Federal Reserve Banks
                                                                                             April 30, 2009
1. Factors Affecting Reserve Balances of Depository Institutions
Millions of dollars
Reserve Bank credit, related items, and                            Averages of daily figures
reserve balances of depository institutions at            Week ended   Change from week ended     Wednesday
Federal Reserve Banks                                    Apr 29, 2009 Apr 22, 2009 Apr 30, 2008 Apr 29, 2009

Reserve Bank credit                                       2,087,578   -   81,542   +1,222,561    2,049,958
  Securities held outright                                  976,811   +   22,765   +  428,131      983,358       
    U.S. Treasury securities (1)                            543,009   +   14,319   -    5,671      549,046
      Bills (2)                                              18,423            0   -   51,894       18,423
      Notes and bonds, nominal (2)                          479,039   +   14,007   +   44,093      485,057
      Notes and bonds, inflation-indexed (2)                 40,976   +      215   +    2,434       40,976
      Inflation compensation (3)                              4,571   +       97   -      304        4,590
    Federal agency debt securities (2)                       66,074   +    3,317   +   66,074       68,158
    Mortgage-backed securities (4)                          367,728   +    5,129   +  367,728      366,153
  Repurchase agreements (5)                                       0            0   -  107,536            0
  Term auction credit                                       403,573   -   52,226   +  303,573      403,573  
  Other loans                                               104,538   -      163   +   74,355      101,531
    Primary credit                                           44,788   +    1,676   +   33,200       45,261
    Secondary credit                                             40   -       21   +       40            0
    Seasonal credit                                               1            0   -       24            1
    Primary dealer and other broker-dealer credit (6)         5,479   -    3,735   -   13,092          700
    Asset-Backed Commercial Paper Money Market
      Mutual Fund Liquidity Facility                          3,362   +    2,412   +    3,362        3,699
    Credit extended to American International
      Group, Inc. (7)                                        44,489   -      494   +   44,489       45,492
    Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility                6,379            0   +    6,379        6,379
    Other credit extensions                                       0            0            0            0
  Net portfolio holdings of Commercial Paper 
    Funding Facility LLC (8)                                222,920   -   17,977   +  222,920      181,795
  Net portfolio holdings of LLCs funded through
    the Money Market Investor Funding Facility (9)                0            0            0            0
  Net portfolio holdings of Maiden Lane LLC (10)             26,484   +       39   +   26,484       26,502
  Net portfolio holdings of Maiden Lane II LLC (11)          18,264   +       27   +   18,264       18,328
  Net portfolio holdings of Maiden Lane III LLC (12)         27,432   +       18   +   27,432       27,449
  Float                                                      -2,241   +      111   -      567       -2,345
  Central bank liquidity swaps (13)                         250,215   -   36,059   +  214,215      249,513
  Other Federal Reserve assets (14)                          59,582   +    1,924   +   15,291       60,254
Gold stock                                                   11,041            0            0       11,041
Special drawing rights certificate account                    2,200            0            0        2,200
Treasury currency outstanding (15)                           42,290   +       14   +    3,555       42,290
       
Total factors supplying reserve funds                     2,143,109   -   81,528   +1,226,116    2,105,489

Right above the bottom. See it now?

54 posted on 05/05/2009 12:21:08 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Apparently not in the 1970’s


55 posted on 05/05/2009 12:21:44 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

You think they’re doing it now? Why?


56 posted on 05/05/2009 12:22:28 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
The dollar amount hasn't changed since 1996 (e.g. http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/19960627/)

Has the price of gold stayed the same all these years?

57 posted on 05/05/2009 12:27:45 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer
Has the price of gold stayed the same all these years?

Yes, the price that they mark it on their books has stayed the same all these years.

58 posted on 05/05/2009 12:30:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You think they're doing it now? Why?

They would be following Volker's advice that he learned in the 70's which is that the price of gold is often an indicator of future perceived inflation. Keeping the gold price suppressed helps dispel inflation psychology. That leaves them with the simpler problem of deflation psychology and they have plenty of tools for that (e.g. debt monetization). Their goal is a balance somewhere in the middle.

59 posted on 05/05/2009 12:34:52 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: palmer

A rising price of gold should kill deflation psychology.


60 posted on 05/05/2009 12:37:36 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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