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Ron Paul’s Economic Theories Winning GOP Converts
The Washington Independent ^ | 5-5-09 | David Weigel

Posted on 05/05/2009 6:14:34 AM PDT by AmericanHunter

From time to time, a few members of Congress—as many as 10, sometimes fewer—gather with Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) to eat lunch and hear from an author or expert whose opinion he thinks is worth promoting. They grab something to eat off of a deli plate. They take notes. They loosen up and ask questions.

“It’s not all that easy for the other members to get here,” said Paul in an interview with TWI, sitting just outside of his office before heading back to Texas for a few days. “It’s just that there’s so much competition. Once they get here and they get going, they all seem to enjoy it.”

A funny thing has started happening to Paul since his long-shot presidential campaign ended quietly in the summer of 2008. More Republicans have started listening to him. There are the media requests from Fox Business and talk radio where he’s given airtime to inveigh on sound money and macroeconomics. There is HR 1207 , the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009, a bill that would launch an audit of the Federal Reserve System, and which has attracted 112 co-sponsors. When Paul introduced the Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act just two years ago, no other members of Congress signed on.

And then there are the luncheons. The off-the-record talks have brought in speakers such as ex-CIA counterterrorism expert Michael Scheuer, libertarian investigative reporter James Bovard, iconoclastic terrorism scholar Robert Pape, and George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley. Perhaps the most influential guest has been Thomas Woods, a conservative scholar whose previous books include “The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History” and “Who Killed the Constitution?: The Fate of American Liberty from World War I to George W. Bush,” and whose current book “Meltdown” has inspired Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) to question Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner about economic fundamentals.

Paul’s unexpected and sudden clout with his fellow Republicans — even some of Paul’s staff have been surprised with the momentum of his “Audit the Fed” bill — come as the GOP engages in a tortured internal dialogue about its future. Since January, no small number of new coalitions have formed between current members of Congress, former advisors to President George W. Bush, and perennial party leaders such as former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.) and former Gov. Jeb Bush (R-Fla.). Few of those conservatives, however, have spent much time criticizing the very foundations of America’s modern economic system and worrying about a 1929-style crash. Few of them had a drawer stuffed with off-brand economic ideas and forgotten libertarian texts, ready to explain what needed to be done. Ron Paul did, and as a result the ideas that made the Republican establishment irate enough to bounce him from a few primary debates are more popular than ever.

“There’s a growing recognition that the GOP is intellectually bankrupt and morally bankrupt,” explained Bovard. “Most of these Republican ‘rebranding’ efforts amount to a group of overpaid consultants getting detached from reality, but I’m glad that Paul is putting together these meetings. I hope the battle of ideas is changing.”

The success of Paul’s events, however under-the-radar, have been a pleasant surprise for the experts. “I’ll admit it,” said Thomas Woods. “I was dead wrong in my first reaction when I heard Ron talking about the Fed on the campaign trail. I said, ‘This is too complicated for most Americans. This isn’t going to galvanize people.’ I was wrong! He’s taken an issue that wasn’t even an issue, and he’s got a lot of Americans suddenly fascinated by the Fed, by monetary policy, by the Austrian business cycle theory,” economic ideas promoted by thinkers like Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard that blame central banks for painful business cycles.

Since his congressional comeback in 1996 — after a long stint as a Libertarian Party politician, and after only narrowly defeating a Democrat-turned-Republican that Newt Gingrich’s Republican leadership supported — Paul has maintained a small circle of allies in Congress. Some of them, like Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.), are regular guests at the expert luncheons. But the most prominent new face is Bachmann, the rising conservative star who left C-Span and YouTube watchers scratching their heads with a grilling on the Constitution that seemed to puzzle Geithner. “What provision in the Constitution could you point to to give authority for the actions that have been taken by the Treasury since March of ‘08?” asked Bachmann during a hearing on March 24. “What in the Constitution could you point to to give authority to the Treasury’s extraordinary actions that have been taken?”

Bachmann “goes to these luncheons on a weekly basis,” said Debbee Keller, Bachmann’s press secretary. Keller noted that Bachmann was reading “Meltdown,” which argues that the New Deal failed and that the Federal Reserve is responsible for the current economic crisis. “Just as Austrian theory suggests,” wrote Woods, “the Fed’s mischief was responsible for the Great Depression.”

“I had a feeling she’d have some interest in the book,” said Woods, “because she asked some good questions. She was taking notes. She was asking if this or that point could be found in the book. I thought I recognized a sincere person who wanted knowledge, not the usual politician who couldn’t care less about what the truth is and just wanted to propagandize.”

Paul didn’t take credit for turning Bachmann on to Austrian theory (”He’ll give credit to everyone on the planet except himself,” laughed Woods) but said he was pleased to see more members of Congress delving into economics. “She’s very open to studying,” said Paul. “In fact, she’s been working really hard to get me back to Minneapolis. She says, ‘You’ll get such a great reception there!’”

Paul’s other influence has reached further across the aisle. Since he introduced the Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009, he has locked in the support of a majority of the Republican conference as well as 13 Democrats, for a bill that would mandate an “audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and the Federal reserve banks” before the end of 2010 to reveal how the board makes it decisions and moves around money. “As Congressman Paul pointed [out] many times,” said freshman Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) after co-sponsoring the bill, “the Federal Reserve should have come clean with the American people a long time ago. The Fed is disbursing trillions of dollars and the taxpayers have a right to know who is getting it.”

It’s been a rapid rise for an idea that, only months ago, was located firmly in the political fringe. The John Birch Society, the far-right group that Paul has often defended from media criticism, was one of the first groups to encourage members to contact their members of Congress to support an audit of the Fed. Paul’s own coalition, the Campaign for Liberty, has engaged in a months-long grassroots campaign for the bill, something that Paul credited for a surge in support unlike anything he’s introduced in his second stint in Congress.

“People today are clamoring for transparency,” said Paul, “and there is more awareness of the Federal Reserve. I do think it has something to do with the focus we put on this during the campaign. It’s not so much that I’m personally converting people, it’s that we’ve got people at the grassroots converting their members of Congress.” Rep. Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.), a conservative who is running for governor of Tennessee next year, has told Paul that his support for the Fed audit and his condemnation of a Missouri law enforcement policy to watch out for cars with Ron Paul bumper stickers get some of his loudest, most positive reactions on the campaign trail.

Paul has remained surprised and bemused at his new influence. “I was talking with one of the other Republicans on the floor,” he remembered, “one of the types that had been voting with Bush, for big spending and all of that. I asked him: ‘Are you voting with me now or am I voting with you?’ They just laugh. They know what the situation is.”


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: auditthefed; economy; endthefed; lping; realconservatives; ronpaul
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
But, is Rep. Ron Paul’s nuttiness also winning GOP converts?

If you think Paul is nutty, you really should talk to party-line democrats more often to get a sense of scale. A little nutty on foreign policy, maybe. Solid as an oak on most other things. Yes he really does win converts among working-class dems and libertarian-leaning independents, especially among younger voters. If the GOP were serious about getting their act together, he and Palin would be getting top billing.
21 posted on 05/05/2009 7:49:19 AM PDT by CowboyJay (Can a dead guy get a break around here?)
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To: AmericanHunter

>There’s a growing recognition that the GOP is intellectually bankrupt and morally bankrupt.<

yes.


22 posted on 05/05/2009 7:52:52 AM PDT by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: AmericanHunter

I admit that at first blush I wrote RP off as an Alex Jones, 9-11 truther nutbag. Then I started to pay attention and realized that he is the ONLY member of congress talking about the Constitution who understands it and MEANS WHAT HE SAYS! I am really sick and tired of the mainstream, vote for the R not the man GOP members who constantly bash RP and those who support him. Those same nitwits thought John (Capt Queeg) McCain was a conservative. Some days I really think RP could have beat Commissar Obama. I want to run for congress just to get to go to one of these lunches. Rock on Ron!


23 posted on 05/05/2009 8:13:05 AM PDT by NCBraveheart (My inner child is a mean little SOB)
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To: AmericanHunter

This is encouraging news!

The best thing GOP candidates can do is become economically literate enough to be able to articulate to voters why the central bank has to go so that we can return to sound money. The case desperately needs to be made that capitalism hasn’t failed, centrally planned monetary policy has failed.

The Fed’s perpetual inflation fuels the creation of bubbles, which eventually must burst, usually (as was the case recently with real estate) causing systemic economic chaos. Not to mention that it’s the Fed’s ability to create money out of thin air that has enabled the out of control growth of FedGov.

This is THE winning issue for the GOP, and the path back to a constitutional Republic, but only if they understand it well enough to articulate it and can defend it against the mainstream.

It’s a high mountain to climb, but it’s encouraging that they seem to be starting the journey.


24 posted on 05/05/2009 8:18:02 AM PDT by Swing_Thought (The doorstep to the temple of wisdom is a knowledge of our own ignorance. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AmericanHunter

Had they followed him all along, they probably wouldn’t be out of power and bordering on extinction.


25 posted on 05/05/2009 8:24:12 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: AmericanHunter

It’s good to see these economic issues finally breaking through.

As conservatives, we know that big government doesn’t work. So, why do so many conservatives still believe that big government can successfully run the economy through monetary policy?


26 posted on 05/05/2009 8:37:53 AM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: xcamel

Thanks for giving it your best shot.

Where are your fellow neo-con-attack Chihuahua-freepers?


27 posted on 05/05/2009 8:44:58 AM PDT by Nephi (Like the failed promise of Fascism, masquerading as Capitalism? You're gonna love Marxism.)
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To: NCBraveheart

That’s exactly how I felt at first too. Even if I disagree with him, I understand and respect where he’s coming from.


28 posted on 05/05/2009 8:46:33 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: MamaTexan; Diana in Wisconsin

Ping


29 posted on 05/05/2009 8:48:32 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: CowboyJay

***Yes he really does win converts among working-class dems and libertarian-leaning independents, especially among younger voters.***

I don’t think this point can be repeated enough. I saw liberals who derided the GOP at every chance they got look at Ron Paul and actually think about Constitutionalism, sound economics, and limited government (at least the libertarian leaning ones). At the very least, they respected him.


30 posted on 05/05/2009 8:52:33 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: AmericanHunter; gunnyg

VERY good post. Thanks for putting it up here. In the latest spate of discouraging news (Kissinger telling Russia’s leadership that we’ll be disarmed by September and ready to join the New World Order), this is a shot of tonic.


31 posted on 05/05/2009 8:54:30 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: NCBraveheart
Some days I really think RP could have beat Commissar Obama.

Perhaps not, but it is important to note that he is virtually the only Republican widely respected and admired by young voters.

32 posted on 05/05/2009 9:00:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("If you cannot pick it up and run with it, you don't really own it." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Swing_Thought

This is encouraging to me as well. I have wanted the GOP to actually say WHY free markets are better than central planning, not THAT they are better for a long time now.

I think people seriously misunderstand what capitalism is. It isn’t so much a policy so much as it is a lack of a policy, that is letting people interact as they see fit in the marketplace with government acting as the agent that prevents fraud, crime, murder, embezzlement, etc. and protects contracts and property rights.

Capitalism is most certainly not state supported monopolies, price and wage controls, centrally managed money and credit, protective tariffs, heavy regulation and taxation, redistribution based on egalitarianism, etc. And

Capitalism most certainly is not consumerism to the extremes we have seen it. Consumption is only made possible by savings, investment, and production all of which the market determines most efficiently based on consumer preferences, profit and loss, price system, etc. Sure we can live off debt and inflation for a while, but this in no way constitutes a sound, healthy, sustainable, or productive economy.


33 posted on 05/05/2009 9:01:08 AM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: djsherin
Thanks for the PING!

There’s a growing recognition that the GOP is intellectually bankrupt and morally bankrupt

This article is right on the money, despite the fact there is a certain contingent of FReepers that will be by shortly to post the same asinine "Paulbot, Paultard, Paulie" nonsense.

Dr. Paul is very much a believer in original intent, and IMHO, original intent is the ONLY thing that's going to pull our bacon out of the fire with the policies that the Obomination Administration have coming down the pike!

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All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

34 posted on 05/05/2009 9:17:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (If you don't think government IS the problem, you're not looking hard enough)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Very true.


35 posted on 05/05/2009 9:23:59 AM PDT by NCBraveheart (My inner child is a mean little SOB)
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To: AmericanHunter; Petronski
Just saw this clown questioning Bernanke about making the Fed more transparent. Ben said he'd be more than willing to give the Congress more information on the Fed balance sheet, lending programs etc. Kinda like what Ron wants in his audit bill.

Then Ben said, of course we can't mess with the Fed's independence in regards to monetary policy. Ron said, well of course that's the only thing that matters. What an assclown. Ron that is. LOL!

36 posted on 05/05/2009 9:59:00 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: AmericanHunter

The Giuliani/McCain/Arnold/Bush crowd shouldn’t worry. These GOP political flirtations with sanity are temporary, only occurring when the GOP is out of power. As soon as the balance of power shifts parties, those in the GOP who are still against big-government will be again completely shunned or denigrated.


37 posted on 05/05/2009 9:59:49 AM PDT by M203M4 (A rainbow-excreting government-cheese-pie-eating unicorn in every pot.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Then Ben said, of course we can't mess with the Fed's independence in regards to monetary policy. Ron said, well of course that's the only thing that matters. What an assclown. Ron that is. LOL!

Since the Constitution gives Congress the sole right to mint money, I do think that Ron Paul has a point here.

And if the Fed stays independent, what information they give to Congress will be only what information they choose to give to Congress. They'll no more allow themselves to be honestly audited than has Freddy Mae and Fanny Mae.

38 posted on 05/05/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: slowhandluke
And if the Fed stays independent, what information they give to Congress will be only what information they choose to give to Congress.

Congress set up the Fed to be independent. If they no longer want it to be independent, all they need to do is pass another law. But Congressmen shouldn't whine that the Fed is doing what the Congress created them to do.

They'll no more allow themselves to be honestly audited

They are audited. Regularly.

39 posted on 05/05/2009 10:19:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Nephi; xcamel

Wait, I always thought that cartoon mocked the rabid Paul detractors rather than his supporters.


40 posted on 05/05/2009 10:28:58 AM PDT by jmc813
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