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Business Leaders Speak Out on Tax Crackdown (Trade war feared)
abc ^ | 5/4/2009 | MATTHEW JAFFE

Posted on 05/04/2009 9:50:17 PM PDT by Nachum

Members of the business community today are starting to sound off in opposition to President Obama's new plan to crack down on offshore tax evasion, denouncing the initiative as a "foolish" program that would do more harm than good.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: business; leaders; out; speak
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1 posted on 05/04/2009 9:50:17 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: SumProVita; HardStarboard; BradyLS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; dervish; Twotone; Free ThinkerNY; ...

The List, ping


2 posted on 05/04/2009 9:51:09 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

“”If financial institutions won’t cooperate with us, we will assume that they are sheltering money in tax havens and act accordingly,” Obama said in announcing the plan today in Washington, adding that the government will also hire 800 new IRS agents to enforce it.”


3 posted on 05/04/2009 9:54:12 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

I heard on local news max baucus was against this


4 posted on 05/04/2009 9:55:03 PM PDT by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: FromLori

Obama is treading on a lot of toes here. Wonder how far he’ll push things.


5 posted on 05/04/2009 9:56:40 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Jet Jaguar

800 new agents, overseen by a Tax Cheat and Tax Criminal, are criminals themselves...


6 posted on 05/04/2009 9:58:04 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz's lawn jockey doesn't speak Austrian)
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To: Nachum
Hey John (Chambers), you and your high-tech buddies supported this moron for president. What did you expect?
7 posted on 05/04/2009 10:00:33 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: Nachum

This won’t pass and if it does, you’re going to see major multi-national companies completely shut down operations in the U.S. I’m talking about icons like Procter and Gamble, Honeywell, Coca-Cola, etc.


8 posted on 05/04/2009 10:00:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Nachum

Ahh this lefty talk! About to drive me bats!

“Costing” the taxpayer $X (doesn’t matter exact amount) per year.

No it doesn’t. “The taxpayer” never paid that. Congress to date said it wasn’t money the gummit had the rights to in the first place. Methinks the greedy, grabby ones are sitting in Washington.


9 posted on 05/04/2009 10:01:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: an amused spectator

And what happens if Congress gets cold feet about this new tax. Will you fire these guys, Obama? No? I thought not.


10 posted on 05/04/2009 10:02:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Nachum

As far as he possibly can.


11 posted on 05/04/2009 10:03:33 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Nachum

Related Info at site http://www.freedomandprosperity.org/


12 posted on 05/04/2009 10:15:20 PM PDT by anglian
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"U.S. multinational corporations raked in $700 billion in foreign earnings but paid only $16 billion in taxes -- a paltry 2.3 percent. They say the new proposals would help save $210 billion over the next decade. "

Oh, yes. Putting American companies out of business, will save lots of money.

"The way to make American businesses competitive is not to let some citizens and businesses dodge their responsibility, while ordinary Americans pick up the slack."

I consider this a chillingly idiotic statement. Make a business competitive by making it pay more taxes? Ø is not bright. But then, neither are the people who voted for him.

13 posted on 05/04/2009 10:17:15 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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Major issues CF&P is tracking:

Tax Competition

Tax Havens

Anti-Tax Haven Legislation

World Bank Study on Tax Havens

OECD: Pro-Tax International Bureaucracy

Territorial Taxation

Internet Tax Moratorium

IRS’s Information Sharing Regulation

European Union’s Savings Tax Directive

United Nations Tax Grab

http://www.freedomandprosperity.org/issues/issues.shtml


14 posted on 05/04/2009 10:18:36 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Nachum
Nukes and ballistic missiles in North Korea? Just fine! Nukes in Iran? Go for it! Dictators in Venezuela? Shake their hands for photo ops and study their propaganda books! Terrorists in charge of Palestine? Give 'em 700 million dollars! Teenage pirates on rafts? Much too tough of a problem for the U.S. Navy.

But, oh my, "If financial institutions won't cooperate with us, we will assume that they are sheltering money in tax havens and act accordingly." Yes indeed, the man gets tough when it comes to sniffing out possible tax dodgers. Of course, he is going to need every cent he can squeeze out of anyone in sight to help pay for the great leap forward.

15 posted on 05/04/2009 10:18:46 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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The Moral Case for Tax Havens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf14lkyH2dM Tax Havens: Myths vs. Facts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTfZADGK6TY&feature=channel_page


16 posted on 05/04/2009 10:20:30 PM PDT by anglian
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To: ChicagahAl

The business won’t tolerate this. It will simply sell the foreign arm to a foreign owner.


17 posted on 05/04/2009 10:20:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: catnipman
Of course, he is going to need every cent he can squeeze out of anyone in sight to help pay for the great leap forward.

Why of course. How else can he buy those unicorns and that fairy dust?

18 posted on 05/04/2009 10:21:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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“So, with complete predictability, the Gang of 20 promised to spend over a trillion dollars they don’t have to “stimulate” the world economy, to help struggling countries through the IMF (its record is so good at that), and other noble purposes. The G-20 also endorsed worldwide inflation by central banks and promised—I love this one—to “take action against” tax havens.

“The era of banking secrecy is over,” said the communiqué, as though that were a good thing. “We stand ready to deploy sanctions to protect our public finances and financial systems.”

The Obama administration led us to believe it was standing firm against a world regulatory authority, which was pushed by French President Sarkozy. But you be the judge. Here’s what the communiqué says:

“We each agree to ensure our domestic regulatory systems are strong. But we also agree to establish the much greater consistency and systematic cooperation between countries, and the framework of internationally agreed high standards, that a global financial system requires…. In particular we agree: … to establish a new Financial Stability Board (FSB) with a strengthened mandate, as a successor to the Financial Stability Forum (FSF), including all G20 countries, FSF members, Spain, and the European Commission…; to reshape our regulatory systems so that our authorities are able to identify and take account of macro-prudential risks; to extend regulation and oversight to all systemically important financial institutions, instruments and markets. This will include, for the first time, systemically important hedge funds; to endorse and implement the FSF’s tough new principles on pay and compensation and to support sustainable compensation schemes and the corporate social responsibility of all firms….”

And more—as if the regulators could have the requisite knowledge to manage economic affairs. This is a regulatory cartel, and to the extent it squelches competition among jurisdictions, it will produce all the evils of a coercive monopoly. That of course is the point. There is to be no safe haven where people can protect their wealth from the grasping politicians.”

The G(rasping)-20
By Sheldon Richman http://fee.org/articles/in-brief/goal-freedom-grasping20/

In defence of tax havens
http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/tax-and-economy/in-defence-of-tax-havens-200903063055/
Instead of trying to prevent competition between jurisdictions, the government ought to be asking why people are so desperate to escape the clutches of Her Majesty’s Revenue & Customs. And instead of just trying to prevent wealth from leaving the UK, they ought to be thinking about how they can attract more of it. Dan Mitchell of the Cato Institute has made a series of excellent YouTube videos on tax havens and tax competition: Tax Competition: A Liberalizing Force in the World Economy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJWLemN29Wc

The Economic Case for Tax Havens
Statist politicians and international bureaucracies such as the OECD and UN routinely attack tax havens, claiming that they lead to “harmful tax competition.” Yet at no point do critics bother to provide any evidence for this claim. This mini-documentary from the Center for Freedom and Prosperity looks at the empirical data and scholarly research and reports that tax havens actually have a very positive impact on the global economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi0lkJBTi58


19 posted on 05/04/2009 10:22:41 PM PDT by anglian
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To: Nachum

He is going to get them toes cut off, this is stabbing the big corporations that supported him in the back.

Good for them though, they are reeling and saying to themselves “what have we done, we created a monster”

This is the comic theater of life.


20 posted on 05/04/2009 10:26:48 PM PDT by dila813
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