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To: zaphod3000
What if it is Stripper school?
Does that count as extra credit?
2 posted on
04/21/2009 1:49:10 PM PDT by
AreaMan
To: zaphod3000
Is this a free country? Are our schools prisons? I am appalled.
To: zaphod3000
En zo, Judge Scalia who has, I believe, 4 daughters, asked the question about untrained school officials, with no search warrant, nor responsibility for maintaining a jail, mint or goldmine, performing a "body cavity search".
He can relate to this one ~ probably makes his trigger finger itchy.
4 posted on
04/21/2009 1:50:14 PM PDT by
muawiyah
To: zaphod3000
California administrators advise volunteers to line up early.
To: zaphod3000
“It’s the seriousness of the charges” argues liberals.
They are advocating little girls getting probed by men looking for meth.
8 posted on
04/21/2009 1:55:31 PM PDT by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
To: zaphod3000
I’d be careful about drawing too many conclusions based only on the questions asked by the justices. It’s not necessarily a good indicator of how they’ll be voting.
Sometimes they ask questions against their own opinion, just to play devil’s advocate and to test their own arguments. Sometimes they don’t.
It’s an interesting case. Police of course can’t do warrantless searches— but parents can. Whether schools can... my gut says no they shouldn’t. But there’s an argument that schools also operate In Loco Parentis, that might carry some weight in certain circumstances. It’ll be interesting to read the opinions when they come out.
13 posted on
04/21/2009 2:02:05 PM PDT by
Ramius
(Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
To: zaphod3000
The justices will approve this. Both liberal and conservative justices believe that the true God is government and we should all worship it with bended knee.
Power corrupts and the Supremes are the poster boys for that concept.
To: zaphod3000
They have to keep the right of searching students intact. It was a mistake to strip the kid without her parents, but go right ahead and search my son. We are finally getting our son under some control. If the school wants to search, go ahead.
To: zaphod3000
Enrolling a student in public school is child abuse.
17 posted on
04/21/2009 2:05:23 PM PDT by
Navy Patriot
(Welcome to the Obama-Democrat Depression.)
To: zaphod3000
IT’S ALL ABOUT *ZERO* TOLERANCE.
(then there’s that strip search thingy.)
18 posted on
04/21/2009 2:07:37 PM PDT by
wolfcreek
("unnamed "right-wing extremist")
To: zaphod3000
What about a "body cavity search?" asked Justice Antonin Scalia. Wright replied that no school official would undertake such a search, but he insisted it would be legal. It would also be the very last such 'legal search' that particular School Official would ever perform.
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20 posted on
04/21/2009 2:08:59 PM PDT by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: zaphod3000
The problem here is the Justices because of their lifetime appointments get insulated from normal society. The make rulings that effect normal everyday people when they have know idea what normal or everyday is.
I worked in a Prison and a large hospital ER. Believe me when I say that school officials are not qualified to search people for drugs... nor do they want to be....
21 posted on
04/21/2009 2:19:02 PM PDT by
SECURE AMERICA
(Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
To: zaphod3000
No doubt lots of stupid jokes will be made but this is a big time loss if SCOTUS overturns this. Probable cause is supposed to have meaning. School ‘officials’ think that are in charge of the world. Time to remind them of the reality. This is potentially a devasting case for our freedoms ( what few we have left)
To: zaphod3000
What about a "body cavity search?" asked Justice Antonin Scalia. Wright replied that no school official would undertake such a search, but he insisted it would be legal.
Of course, there is no way he could know that. Whatever is deemed legal WILL be done, sooner or later.
25 posted on
04/21/2009 2:34:33 PM PDT by
TChris
(There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
To: zaphod3000
If school administrators are to continue to act in the de facto role of law enforcement officers with regard to searches and seizures, then they should be required to meet the same standards.
A student strip-search should require sufficient probable cause, and a search warrant signed by a judge.
26 posted on
04/21/2009 2:37:35 PM PDT by
TChris
(There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
To: zaphod3000
Given the level of sexual predation among educators male and female, I'd say this should never happen regardless of the suspicion of drugs. There is more reason to suspect covert sexual abuse by teachers than covert drug possession by honor students.
To: zaphod3000
Which part of this, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." is confusing the justices? Sure, getting a warrant is "inconvenient" and let's guilty people get away with crimes but does that justify flushing the Constitution?
To: zaphod3000
[Kennedy] objected when Adam Wolf, an ACLU lawyer for Redding, argued that the strip search was unreasonable because there was no evidence she was hiding anything in her underwear. "Is the nature of drug irrelevant?" he asked. "What if it was meth to be consumed at noon?"
"The nature of the evidence is irrelevant; it's the seriousness of the charge that matters." - some leftard
38 posted on
04/21/2009 9:03:09 PM PDT by
Oztrich Boy
(Competent small-government conservative = close enough for government work)
To: zaphod3000
You gotta be kidding me. Strip search for anthrax or nukes I have no problem with, course you can get the cops involved for those kinds of things anyway. This poor little girl was tyrannized and subjugated over ADVIL!
39 posted on
04/21/2009 9:32:21 PM PDT by
Still Thinking
(Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
To: zaphod3000
So it’s OK for a kid to get an abortion without parental consent, but are subjected to a friggin strip search for IBUPROFEN?
44 posted on
04/22/2009 7:16:29 AM PDT by
Travis T. OJustice
(I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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