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It was gratuitously incorporated!
1 posted on 04/21/2009 9:41:59 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Like S&W released the Heller Commemorative Edition, I hope they and other manufacturers put out some commemorative editions as well, because I feel this could be a huge landslide going out way.


2 posted on 04/21/2009 9:45:56 AM PDT by wastedyears (April 21st, 2009 - International Iron Maiden Day)
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To: Cboldt

Check the last paragraph in the excerpt. I wanted to read about the wailing and gnashing of teeth in the drive by media.


3 posted on 04/21/2009 9:49:00 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
...and did not say whether the Second Amendment also applied to state and local laws.

Woah, there is some serious need for ejumacation in this Country.

4 posted on 04/21/2009 9:58:20 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (I'd rather the world hate us then laugh at us)
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To: neverdem
"..but upheld a ban on firearms at gun shows..""

Hmm. Won't be much a a show will it? What next? Ban cars at car shows? Ban baseballs at baseball games?

5 posted on 04/21/2009 10:04:34 AM PDT by Jaxter (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.)
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To: neverdem

NOTE: The 2nd Amendment is SELF-incorporated to all government entities at every level. It is MORE ABSOLUTE than the 1st Amendment, or any of the others, because the wording forbids not only CONGRESS, but ANYONE from infringing on it. The 1st says “Congress shall make no law...”. The 2nd say “shall NOT be infringed!” Period! End of debate!


6 posted on 04/21/2009 10:10:26 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: neverdem

the final sentence where the lawyer says “needlessly opened” reflects the current thinking in municipal legislation.

ALL is legal until challenged.

Thus municipal officials pass laws they KNOW WILL NOT STANT LEGAL CHALLENGE because they can get away with it until someone with money and lawyers can challenge it.

This is what this lawyer is really saying in another era, “don’t teach the slaves about reading.”


16 posted on 04/21/2009 12:15:04 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem
Judge Ronald Gould, in a separate opinion, pictured a gun-wielding citizenry defending 21st century America against invaders or terrorists. "That we have a lawfully armed populace adds a measure of security for all of us and makes it less likely that a band of terrorists could make headway in an attack on any community before more professional forces arrived," he said.

Amen Judge, you "get it" regarding the authors' intent for the 2nd Amendment, too bad that most of your colleagues on the bench don't.

If Judge Gould had been on the SCOTUS instead of Kennedy the four originalists would probably not have been forced to water down the majority opinion in order to get Kennedy's vote to uphold Heller. I believe we would have gotten much more extensive protection for our 2nd Amendment rights if Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, and Alito had been able to get one more vote for a decision that would have more fully confirmed the original intent of the authors. But in order to get even as much as they did the originalists had to compromise with Kennedy, and that compromise left some holes big enough for gun grabbing politicians like Obama and the D.C. officials to drive a truck through. In fact, although Mr. Heller was able to get the gun that was the catalyst that brought his case to the district court to begin with, the D.C. Rats have already come up with a slate of new regulations carefully designed to slip through those holes, and those regulations are still keeping most law abiding D.C. residents from legally acquiring and keeping handguns.

What we got in Heller was a big step in the right direction but it allows government to regulate gun possession in ways the authors never intended, such as licensing gun owners, registering guns, banning certain types of guns, and requiring government's permission to carry a gun anywhere except on personally owned property. Heller was and is a very important and very welcome decision, but the sad fact is that there are still 22,000 restrictive gun laws on the books all across the US and practically every one of them is a violation of the 2nd Amendment as the authors intended it to be read. Our right to own a gun is hanging by a slender thread comprised of the lives of 5 men. If any one of the SCOTUS members who upheld Heller dies or is forced to retire by ill health while Obama is in office Heller will be one of the first, if not the very first, decision that will be reversed by a reconstructed SCOTUS. Scalia is 72, Kennedy is 70, Thomas is 59, and Obama may be in office for another 7-2/3 years, so don't get too comfortable with Heller as a reason to believe that a freedom-hating liberal government will abide by the 2nd Amendment.

20 posted on 04/21/2009 4:31:07 PM PDT by epow (Liberals aren't liars because they lie, they lie because they're liars.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; Jeff Head; ...
Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Holds that the Second Amendment Applies to the States

Bloomberg targets Virginia, guns

Obama heeding lesson from ‘94 gun ban

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29 posted on 04/22/2009 10:06:10 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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