'Ammunition Accountability' Legislation. (No ammo sales after 6/30/2009)

email | 4/20/2009

[IbJensen]

Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009.

It has already started: 'Ammunition Accountability' Legislation.

Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacturer, a data base of all ammunition sales. So, they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a 05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more! If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun! This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Inform your friends in these states AND fight to dissolve this BILL!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to:

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

[IbJensen]

With this phantom legislation enroute to the hopper (instead of the waste can) coupled with Pelosi's legislation to tax our already depleted 401Ks, we're in deep trouble.

[ronnyquest]

No, thank you. I have perfect accounting of all my ammunition at this time.

[IbJensen]

[IbJensen]

Me too!

[Domandred]

Should be noted (as always) that the company that owns the patent on this technology is the primary customer of the law firm that authored the legislation in the States.

What better way to sell a product that nobody wants by passing a law requiring that product.

Can you say conflict of interest? I knew you could.

[MaxMax]

Good luck trying to enforce destroying all that ammo.
Better build another five thousand prisons. For starters.

[Paladin2]

This news should keep the ammo shelves empty at gun stores nationwide.

[OneWingedShark]

Support your right to keep and bear arms: buy a gun and more ammo today!

{The government SHOULD be afraid of us stockpiling... only if it intends to do something blatantly unlawful.}

[MarkeyD]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011

Good luck with that.

[Logical me]

Touch my ammo and it will be the last thing they do.

[EagleUSA]

Pure Fascism at work. Remember, Hitler disarmed Germany, too.

[umgud]

We have some dork here in CA pushing magazine registration.

[ironwill]

sent them an email: ACT@ammunitionaccountability.com

Molon Labe!

[Myrddin]

This is a case of a company inventing a technology that nobody wants and trying to force adoption using political cronies. It's every bit as stupid as "microstamping" cartridges with chambers and firing pins. That's another loser. Ditto for "ballistic databases". All are failed technologies. All are easily defeated. They do nothing except drive up the cost of firearms and ammunition.

[Hang'emAll]

What better way to sell a product that nobody wants by passing a law requiring that product.

Can you say conflict of interest? I knew you could....

Here in Texas, people do not need helmets to ride motorcycles.

Legislation was passed at the urging of the bicycle helmet mfg. So you need one for a bike but not for a Motorcycle.

[Frantzie]

Good luck getting this passed in MS, SC, AL, TN, KY, AZ, MO and probably PA. In may also be a problem.

Those states were listed but I am sure there will be major pushback on this tax and infringement on the Second.

[Currentriverrat]

Thanks for the news from 2008.
Here in Missouri, in 2009, there isn’t any bills pertaining to this.!

[Myrddin]

We have some dork here in CA pushing magazine registration.

Sacramento is full of dorks. They can't do anything right. They are in office because a bunch of liberal dorks at the ballot box put them in office. The dorks outnumber the sane folks. I realized I was outnumbered about 10 years ago. It took a year to arrange my escape to Idaho.

[TheThinker]

I’m thinking a July 4th Tea Party is a better idea than ever.

[c-b 1]

This appears to be from last year, it was introduced in the states listed, and died an all states, Nothing was mentioned about that.

Is this a notification that it was reintroduced in all those states, or is it recycled old news?

[SuperLuminal]

I guess this could mean that I need to include not only my Redskin season tickets...but many, many, many cases of ammo in my Will as well?

[Labyrinthos]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.

If the government is going to make us destroy something that we legally purchased, then it will have to pay just compensation for the de facto taking of private property. Given the cost of ammo and the likely increase in the cost of ammo as a result of this legislation, most of these states will not be able to afford to pay us fair market value.

[saganite]

We have some dork here in CA pushing magazine registration.

I agree. Times and Newsweek for example have no business spreading propaganda.

What’s that? Gun magazines?

Never mind!

[TheThinker]

Should be noted (as always) that the company that owns the patent on this technology is the primary customer of the law firm that authored the legislation in the States. What better way to sell a product that nobody wants by passing a law requiring that product. Can you say conflict of interest?

I can say it three times:

Conflict of Interest.
Conflict of Interest.
Conflict of Interest.

I figure the horrible truth deserves to be repeated.

[Jammz]

Umm, I used all my ammo at target practice. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

[Gaffer]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011.

I don't think they'd like my definition of 'destroyed'.....more like 'used'......

[DBrow]

If each box has a unique code, they will need at least an 11 digit code with letters and numbers in it, given the amount of ammo sold commercially in the USA. Imagine how many 50 rd boxes of .22 get sold every year.

Assuming that the sales keep up with historical levels, of course.

Along with the code comes ammo registration, so if the police find a slug at a crime scene that has part of your code on it, you will be hauled in for questioning while your home is searched for all ammo, and your guns temporarily borrowed for ballistics testing, fingerprinting, serial number check for registration, and DNA profiling.

I’d expect a civil suit from an aggrieved family (helped by a nonprofit grief counseling organization) since you are responsible (it is your bullet after all).

[steamroller]

Rhode Island’s Governor,Don Carcieri will not sign any anti-firearms bills,and there are enough pro gun legislators to kill any such attempt.Believe it or not,maany of the staunchest supporters of gun rights here are Democrats.
Our federal delegation are anti-gun leftist scum,one and all.

[ChocChipCookie]

This was 2008 legislation that died a sad, lonely death here in AZ. As long as Republicans remain in the majority, it will never breathe life, no matter how many times the Demonrats try to get it passed.

[animal172]

Has anyone even tried to buy certain ammo the last several months? I’ve been trying to buy some 380 since Christmas for my girlfriend’s mother. I’ve been to Tennessee, Connecticutt, Vermont, New Hampshire, Indiana, Kentucky, Oregon and who knows where else all to no avail. Even most of the online stores I’ve checked are out of stock. They can’t take our guns, but they can sure control the ammo.

[MDspinboyredux]

Okay, sanity check.

The House Bill for Maryland (for example) that was cited by the link was for LAST YEARS SESSION and is dead.

2008 Regular Session bill information current as of November 23, 2008 - 0:19 a.m.

Please make sure the information you provide is at least ACCURATE.

While this in no way should say they won't try something like this in the future, it's stuff like this that makes me think that our own 2nd Amendment brothers are simply stirring the pot in order to make gun/ammo sales.

[Jeff Gordon]

Good luck trying to enforce destroying all that ammo.

Now, now. Let's not be so negative. Banning drugs has worked so well. The war on drugs can serve as an excellent guide for the war on guns.

[Vinnie]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011

Better get some bits for my Dremel.

[Sudetenland]

"F" the government and their laws.

"From my cold. dead hands!"

[Mr. Lucky]

In fact, this bill died in every one of the states in which it was introduced (during the Bush administration, by the way). It has not been adopted and isn’t pending in any state.

[Sudetenland]

I can think of one great way to “destroy it,” but I don’t think those legislators would like it too much...not that it would matter after it was “destroyed.” :)

[Shooter 2.5]

If things continue as they are, patriots won’t have any problem destroying their ammunition.

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[Joe 6-pack]

"Should be noted (as always) that the company that owns the patent on this technology is the primary customer of the law firm that authored the legislation in the States... What better way to sell a product that nobody wants by passing a law requiring that product."

That is a bvasic tenet of mine. Since lawyers are technically officers of the court, they belong to the judicial branch of government, and their participation in the legislative or executive branches (other than as staff counsel) is at it's very core, a conflict of interest.

[Eaker]

Banning drugs has worked so well. The war on drugs can serve as an excellent guide for the war on guns.

Not the same. The average drug addled idiot has nothing to lose but honest gun owners have plenty to lose and are overwhelmingly law biding.

[Kakaze]

Just keep pushing.

[twistedwrench]

LOL...Nice

[Walmartian]

Blackriverrat myself. First "residential district" area North of Hillard bridge. Not as nice as Current but much less traffic.

[Ancesthntr]

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.)

I'll bet that a lot gets turned in, and very quickly - but not necessarily in the manner that the sponsors and supporters of this bill are contemplating. Me, I have a suspicion that lots will get turned in at speeds from 850 FPS all the way up to 3,300 or so FPS.

[snoringbear]

“Better build another five thousand prisons. For starters.”

Hope the light bulb is starting to come on for those who did not understand Obama’s campaign statement “we can't count on the military, we need to build a Civilian Defense Corp just as big and just as strong as our military”. Also, hope everyone is now beginning to understand Secretary Napolitano’s report and comments about vet's. She is lead off batter for the Obama mind shaping game...

[Ancesthntr]

If the government is going to make us destroy something that we legally purchased, then it will have to pay just compensation for the de facto taking of private property. Given the cost of ammo and the likely increase in the cost of ammo as a result of this legislation, most of these states will not be able to afford to pay us fair market value.

I'm not selling, I'm not destroying. Condemnation is only for public use - and notwithstanding that Kelo abomination, there is ZERO public use connected with the seizure of my legally acquired and used property.

Come and take it, mf'ers.

[Frantzie]

Man .380 must be the worst. I like Sportsman’s guide because they usually list the inventory online. The earlies t is Jul 6, 2009 backordered. 9 mm had some in stock.

Ammoman out of stock on .380 too. Cheaper Than Dirt - out of stock on .380. CTD has 9 mm in the more expensive stuff.

Any other suggestions here folks?

[Chewbacca]

This is good new.

Finally wars will be ended and crime will be ended as all the armies of the world are stopped from purchasing ammunition and the police and criminals are no longer sold ammo preventing innocent citizens from being killed from no-knock raids and home invasions.

[Ancesthntr]

Now, now. Let's not be so negative. Banning drugs has worked so well. The war on drugs can serve as an excellent guide for the war on guns.

I agree. They will have an awful time banning lead and lead alloys, what with 100+ years of production in large volumes, and the making of brass cases (aside from the billions and billions out there) would be a cinch for many machinists. Casting is an old and oft-used skill, and with the price of ammo skyrocketing as it has in the last year or so, many more people are getting into it. Primers - ditto, though they'd likely be simpler than what is currently manufactured by the billions each year. Powder - same.

Besides, as an acquaintance of mine once said, "why worry about what is or isn't in the store, when the morons are going to bring the store to you?"

[TigersEye]

Hopefully black market ammo will be cheaper than it is now.