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Veterans a Focus of FBI Extremist Probe
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 04-18-09 | CAM SIMPSON and GARY FIELDS

Posted on 04/18/2009 7:06:50 AM PDT by euram

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To: GovernmentShrinker; doogie

Above I called J. Napolitano a mere tool of others.

GS, if you don’t know that the FBI and the military investigations can also be used as tools, I can’t help you.

There’s such a thing as a supposedly legitimate cover for something else that’s at the bottom of it all. This air of legitimacy can indeed pull in others who wittingly or not become tools.

And yes, you can be a witting tool.

Even FBI and even Military investigators can suspect that there’s an agenda beyond their designs, but they go along to get along because on the surface there’s justification for it and it doesn’t pay to buck the system.

The material recently published targeting “single issue people” such as anti-abortion, pro-gun, anti-federal government power, etc in which Vets were named as potential terrorists strikes me as a nice try at such a cover, but clumsily transparent.

Because these lefty egghead types think everyone else out here in the workaday America are a bunch of stupid rubes.

And on that belief rests their arrogant assumption that their nice try was good enough to get by.

It wasn’t.


42 posted on 04/18/2009 8:53:24 AM PDT by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: Zevonismymuse

Stehpanie seems like a lovely young woman.

as for our DHS Czar, janet, she looks like a bull dog democrat and is scary as heck.


43 posted on 04/18/2009 8:53:59 AM PDT by tioga
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To: smith288

So it’s Vets vs ACORN.:-)


44 posted on 04/18/2009 9:00:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (from "Irrational Exuberance" to "Mark to Zero": from '96 to '09)
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To: euram

I’m turning myself in today.


45 posted on 04/18/2009 9:00:54 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Librerals are more dangerous to liberty than terrorists.)
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To: tioga
Stehpanie seems like a lovely young woman.

She is a beautiful young lady in every way, unlike that man-lady Janet Reno clone Napolitano.

46 posted on 04/18/2009 9:01:32 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: tioga

You have insulted Spike, my bulldog!


47 posted on 04/18/2009 9:02:52 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Librerals are more dangerous to liberty than terrorists.)
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To: lonevoice

Worth noting: no veteran has committed any criminal act against the United States government to date, so why target returning veterans from Afghanistan and Iraq in particular? All you have to do is look at the difference between how Obama is received by the military and how President Bush was received by them. One gets a polite, respectful response, but the other always received a long standing O and cheers that rang long and loud with unbridled enthusiasm. Our troops knew where they stood with President Bush; his love and support of the military was never in question. Compare that to Obama who tries to take away free health care for disabled veterans; who slashes the current military budget and whose policies often show a total disregard for our Constitution and the principles on which this country was founded. I think the Obama team is worried about the backlash as they enact more and more of their radical agenda, and the last thing they want is military opposition from the veterans who still believe in the individual rights and liberties laid out in our Constitution and our Founding Documents.


48 posted on 04/18/2009 9:05:04 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: GovernmentShrinker

So what you are saying is that the military has thought it a good idea to cooperate with any agency as clearly out of control as the FBI is. Is that it?

Perhaps you’d also like Churches to cooperate with abortion clinics and drug cartels.

When a government agency fills a building with combustible materials after being warned it would be fatal to young children, you’ve go to wonder. And seeing one simply brilliant FBI agent on video tell Koresh’s mother, “I hope you’ve said your good-byes”, what is there left to say except execution was the plan all along.

So yes, I’m just thrilled to hear that you think the military would let us know if anything was wrong here, as if that something wrong threshold hadn’t already been passed when it opted to gift the FBI with cooperation.

Look, I get your logic here. I don’t agree with it overall though. Thanks for the alternative voice.


49 posted on 04/18/2009 9:06:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: Chris DeWeese
What is the government’s definition of ‘extremist’?

With this administration, it's anybody who has had the guts to question or speak out against his leftist agenda.

An example is the often repeated (paraphrased) statement that "all AGW skeptics are deniers that should be jailed". That attitude by people whom you know Obama listens to is not very comforting.

The ironic part is, with his "I won" attitude and the above mentioned definition of an extremist, they will eventually drive a lot of people underground into the organizations that may very well be extremist.

50 posted on 04/18/2009 9:06:48 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Landru

Hey! LOL

Can’t a guy have some fun around here?


51 posted on 04/18/2009 9:06:50 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: euram

Guess I’m gonna have to join me one of those militias. Just to keep in good standing.


52 posted on 04/18/2009 9:07:25 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: freespirited

This is how the witch hunt begins with the left. I have been saying the left has coopted education, unions, clergy, and the GOP. It appears they also own the State Dept., Justice Dept, CIA and FBI as well.

Folks there is a formidable task ahead of us to oust the Usurping Commies.


53 posted on 04/18/2009 9:14:28 AM PDT by dools007
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To: Bryanw92
I hope they don’t stop there. Cold War and Vietnam Era vets are plenty pissed off at Obamafascism too!

Sssssshhhhhhh! Don't give them any ideas! That's MY era!

54 posted on 04/18/2009 9:17:40 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Hey! LOL Can’t a guy have some fun around here?"

Damned right they can.
That's why I always pause to read what's on your mind, ol' pal.
I can laugh and vent some rage at the same moment, a real timer saver. ;^)

So carry on, at least 'til the zerO says otherwise. :o)

55 posted on 04/18/2009 9:21:20 AM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: clintonh8r

ooops.....let me change that to bull-dyke democrat...


56 posted on 04/18/2009 9:22:41 AM PDT by tioga
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To: GovernmentShrinker; All

“There ARE attempts to recruit current and former members of our armed forces to join various groups which can reasonably be regarded as dangerous extremists.”

You mean groups that could be regarded as modern day “Sons of Liberty?” The only appeals to military men active and retired that I’ve seen have been about remembering our oath to the Constitution, and encouraging them to support the People if shooting starts.

To a Leftist, it might scare the sh!t out of them to think that the military might support a revolution to restore constitutional rule, and THEY would certainly see that as extreme.
I believe they are planning to do the same to our AD and vets as the “liberating” Soviets did to the Polish officer corps. They rightly see that if a rebellion starts, military veterans will provide experienced leadership in that cause!

As for the military branches “cooperating” with the FBI; what the heck to you expect them to do officially when they are ordered to do so???


57 posted on 04/18/2009 9:24:23 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: euram

Returning US military vets will be labeled as mentally unstable and POSSIBLY as right wing extremists by the DHS giving the Obama Administration the excuse to form his civilian ‘defense’ force.

The reasoning from the Obama Administration and the media echo chamber will be that Bush’s unpopular and unproductive war on terrorism has compromised the US military and a new force will be needed to ensure stateside US security.


58 posted on 04/18/2009 9:25:26 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Landru

Heh heh heh, thanks Landru. You take care.


59 posted on 04/18/2009 9:25:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Pres__ent Obama's own grandmother says he was born in Kenya. She was there.)
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To: ExSoldier

That’s mine too. If there’s going to be an “enemies” list, I would be proud to be on it.


60 posted on 04/18/2009 9:26:06 AM PDT by Bryanw92
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