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To: tobyhill

been saying this for some time but it seems some have short memories

the order was if his life was in danger then use deadly force

well his life was in danger from the start and even more so when he had jumped over board
so the question is when was the order to use deadly force given , plus phony knew that there was no other alternative and hoped to have talks?

He wanted to prove that by talking it is better than using force, believe me I am convinced phony is pissed off they were shot
why else did he send the FBI and hostage smooth talker, why else did he keep his mouth shut?

He is p,laying it both ways
if the capt had died he would have blamed the navy
now it has been good for the capt he tries to take credit with the media spinning again for him and yet some sheep even believe it


9 posted on 04/13/2009 6:20:11 PM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick queer sham--- end racism end affirmative action)
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To: manc

Bumping your every word, manc.


11 posted on 04/13/2009 6:23:30 PM PDT by Miss Behave ("Easter SEALs!!!" ~ FReeper Choose Ye This Day)
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To: manc

***his life was in danger from the start and even more so when he had jumped over board***

BINGO. Deadly force was warranted from the beginning.


12 posted on 04/13/2009 6:24:45 PM PDT by tobyhill ("Hope and Change" is so overrated!)
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To: manc
been saying this for some time but it seems some have short memories the order was if his life was in danger then use deadly force well his life was in danger from the start and even more so when he had jumped over board

Under rules issued by the WH, you can bet the pirates would still be alive.

My money is on the Captain of the Bainbridge and the SEAL team leader not wanting to spend the rest of their lives knowing their careers were defined by having been on scene hogtied when a lifeboat evaded a warship and made it to safety along with the hostage.

23 posted on 04/13/2009 6:48:21 PM PDT by fso301
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To: manc
He is p,laying it both ways if the capt had died he would have blamed the navy...

You are right on this, manc.

47 posted on 04/13/2009 7:22:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iraq trip: Obama should have bowed to the troops - not to King Abdullah.)
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To: manc
He wanted to prove that by talking it is better than using force, believe me I am convinced phony is pissed off they were shot

Absolutely. He could only restrain the Navy to a certain point without risking absolute outrage at home. Now he is behind the eightball with everybody cheering the result and his mindless minions heaping the credit on him.

He is p,laying it both ways if the capt had died he would have blamed the navy

Absolutely. This was quite plain with, e.g., Gergen out there saying he didn't need to be awakened for this. The plot line as passed through the MSM ( it's so blatant! ) was that the whole thing was beneath his notice and a distraction. It was of course how he plays everything - holding it at arms length, just so he can be flexible in his ex post facto posturing.

62 posted on 04/13/2009 7:34:30 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: manc
with the media spinning again for him

CNN was running a super today that said, "Obama stops pirates". That takes spin to a Dervish-like level of insanity.

68 posted on 04/13/2009 7:40:21 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: manc

I am with you all the manc. Everyone needs to remember that nothing obama does or says is coincidental or unplanned in obama’s narcisstic mind.


167 posted on 04/13/2009 11:18:58 PM PDT by OafOfOffice ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace"Thomas Paine)
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