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Captain reportedly freed, 3 pirates dead and one captured (updated)
American Thinker ^ | April 12, 2009 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 04/12/2009 3:37:39 PM PDT by fiodora

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To: fiodora

Will Obuma be labeled a murderer...and possibly a child killer? If Bush had “authorized” this...there would have been major protests in European cities against American intervention in “Somalian High Seas Commerce”.


21 posted on 04/12/2009 3:54:15 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: fiodora

“standing orders allowing the Captain of the Bainbridge to take action if he saw that Captain Phillips’ life was in imminent danger. “

“It seems clear that the Obama administration deserves some credit for allowing the Bainbridge captain to take action if Capt. Phillips’ life was in danger. It would have been hard to justify a ban on such action. “

If those were the rules of engagement God help our sailors .
This is setting them up for another USS Cole incident.
To me this rule looks like having to fight with your hands tied behind your back. Our sailors were fired upon yesterday I can’t imagine the amount of restraint they had to have not to fire back . Truly this is a testament to how well they are trained .
God bless our troops


22 posted on 04/12/2009 3:54:20 PM PDT by Lera
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To: al baby

Why.


23 posted on 04/12/2009 3:55:45 PM PDT by omega4179 (boycott government run entities)
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To: fiodora

http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/04/how-the-rescue-happened.html

HOW THE RESCUE HAPPENED
POSTED BY UNCLE JIMBO

I just finished listening to the press conference w/ ADM Gortney about the rescue of Captain Phillips. At the time it happened the USS Bainbridge was towing the lifeboat to calmer waters as the sea state was deteriorating. One of the pirates was on board the Bainbridge as the talks about obtaining Phillip’s release continued. The lifeboat was approx. 25 m behind the Bainbridge when snipers on the fantail observed one of the pirates in the pilot house of the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 at the back of a tied up Phillips and the other two pirates on board were visible (at least shoulders and heads). The standing authority gave them clearance to engage the pirates if the life of the captain was in imminent danger. The on scene commander deemed this to be true and gave the order to fire. All three bad guys were taken out and then a rigid inflatable boat went to the lifeboat to retrieve Phillips. Iti is unknown at this point whether the shooters were SEALs or Marine Scout Snipers as both would have been available. This was not a rescue attempt ordered by National Command Authority i.e. the President. It was a reaction by the on scene commander under standard authority to safeguard the life of a hostage.

The AP is reporting that President Obama gave the order to use military force to rescue the hostage, that is misleading.

WASHINGTON (AP)—Administration officials say President Barack Obama approved the military operation that rescued a U.S. captain held hostage by Somali pirates.

The officials say Obama ordered the Defense Department to use military resources to rescue Richard Phillips from a lifeboat off the Somali coast.
He did affirm the military’s authorization to use force if the captain’s life was in danger, but they already would have had that authorization as part of their standard rules of engagement. If there are innocents about to be slaughtered the same reasoning that authorizes self defense also covers an imminent execution unless the ROE specifically forbid it.

The AP is making it sound like there was an active rescue ordered by the President. It was not, there was an imminent threat and the local commander gave the order to fire.

Good on Obama for ensuring their authorization was clear, but let’s also be clear that he did not authorize or order an active rescue attempt.
April 12, 2009


24 posted on 04/12/2009 3:55:45 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: fiodora
"It seems clear that the Obama administration deserves some credit for allowing the Bainbridge captain to take action if Capt. Phillips' life was in danger."

Bleep! - Why didn't he allow them to act on the first day? - Over-all, this operation stank badly!

25 posted on 04/12/2009 3:55:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: fullchroma

I second that. I will always give credit where it is due. Thank you Lord for the steady hands and nerves of those beautiful sharpshooters, the faith of the Captain in those who would seek to protect him, and to President Obama, who understood, in at least this instance, negotiations are sometimes best from the muzzle of a gun. I only hope he understands from this exersize that one cannot negotiate with terrorists and madmen. Maybe this will help open, if only a little, some eyes........Prayers to all, especially the relieved family and friends of all involved.


26 posted on 04/12/2009 3:55:57 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: Gone_Postal

BRAVO!! Easter Seals! Gotta love THAT!


27 posted on 04/12/2009 3:56:02 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: fiodora
It seems clear that the Obama administration deserves some credit for allowing the Bainbridge captain to take action if Capt. Phillips' life was in danger.

Somebody give BO a cowboy hat. WE'RE ALL "COWBOYS" NOW!!! P!$$ on the Euro-Peons and their U.N.

This is the first time since November 4th, 2008 that I've been proud to be an American!

GO NAVY!

28 posted on 04/12/2009 3:56:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (So Orwell was off by 25 years! So what!)
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To: brytlea

Yes, when its an Unamerican in the white HOuse.


29 posted on 04/12/2009 3:57:19 PM PDT by omega4179 (boycott government run entities)
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To: al baby
"Obama man he is a leader we should be proud" "

Rahm? Is that you?

:)

30 posted on 04/12/2009 3:57:27 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife ("Never give in, Never give in, Never give in" Winston Churchill)
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To: brytlea
"I’m really not familiar with how this works. Does this mean to say that our military must wait for the President to tell them it’s ok to take action?"

That's sure what it looks like, and it bodes poorly for the future.

31 posted on 04/12/2009 3:58:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: fiodora

All that’s left now is for Obama to apologize to the pirates for the unnecessary violence and promise the senate will hold hearings to thoroughly investigate the military. /s


32 posted on 04/12/2009 4:00:40 PM PDT by oldbrowser (We have elected the "Sorcerer's Apprentice" to be POTUS.)
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To: fiodora

Wanna bet the NYT etal will be saying we used disporportiate force on Mon.


33 posted on 04/12/2009 4:01:13 PM PDT by Waco (Plan B. Try genocide, shall WE)
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To: editor-surveyor

We don’t want our military to accidentally shoot any relatives of Obuma or “friends” of any of his advisers or staff that are over there “freedom fighting”...would we?


34 posted on 04/12/2009 4:01:41 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: omega4179; editor-surveyor

Wow, I had no idea...


35 posted on 04/12/2009 4:01:53 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: fiodora

One too few sharp shooters!

One cent for trial and prison is too much!


36 posted on 04/12/2009 4:02:41 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: AndyTheBear

A shot through the Medulla oblongata or Pons, and the person shot just falls over without pulling the trigger. Not a hard shot at 25-35 yards; but from the deck of a ship?


37 posted on 04/12/2009 4:10:18 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei (quem deus vult perdere prius dementat)
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To: Lera

“Truly this is a testament to how well they are trained .
God bless our troops”

THE TROOPS commander-zero INHERITED???


38 posted on 04/12/2009 4:11:08 PM PDT by fiodora
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To: misterrob
Sharp shooting from a boat is all that more amazing....

That's the guy that deserves the cigar.

39 posted on 04/12/2009 4:11:41 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Gone_Postal

Happy Easter Seals!!!!


40 posted on 04/12/2009 4:11:56 PM PDT by fiodora
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