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Critics say US should attack Somali pirates' land bases
Christian Science Monitor ^ | April 10, 2009 | Arthur Bright

Posted on 04/10/2009 9:19:58 AM PDT by Scanian

As the US Navy moves additional ships to the Indian Ocean to attempt to free the American captain held hostage by pirates, some are criticizing Washington's tactics and calling for strikes on the Somali pirates' land bases.

The Daily Telegraph reports that the US is sending additional naval vessels to join the USS Bainbridge, which has been in a standoff with the pirates who took an American captain hostage Wednesday. But experts say that an increased US naval presence will not solve the ongoing issue of piracy in the Gulf of Aden and the western Indian Ocean, writes The Wall Street Journal.

"I actually think this naval response is not the right thing to be doing at all," said [Peter Chalk, an expert on piracy at the Rand Corp.,] of the presence of the USS Bainbridge, a guided missile destroyer which reached the Maersk Alabama early Thursday morning. "We have ratcheted up the situation."...

"Governments like the US have little choice, given the public pressure and the political pressure," Mr. Chalk said. "I don't think that the naval presence out there has anything to do with the protection of ships. It's been politicized."

Rather, argues Mr. Chalk, the US needs to target the pirates' bases in Somalia, where they have had free reign to establish camps in various port cities of the failed state. In a commentary for CNN, Tom Wilkerson of the United States Naval Institute, a nonprofit professional association, also advocates targeting the pirates' home bases, which he says is a lesson "we seem unable to learn from our own history."

In 1804 President Thomas Jefferson said "Enough" to paying 20 percent of the US national budget as tribute to Barbary pirates.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; gwot; jefferson; maritime; piracy; piratebases; somalia; somalipiracy; usnavy
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"Is it time to replace bluewater policing with tactics of Jefferson, who defeated the Barbary pirates on land?"
1 posted on 04/10/2009 9:19:59 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Fewer pirates on land mean fewer pirates at sea ... take them out.


2 posted on 04/10/2009 9:20:59 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Scanian

After we defeat them, we’ll bring in millions more of them as refugees.


3 posted on 04/10/2009 9:22:02 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: Scanian

Sounds like a perfect job for a battleship, if we still had them.


4 posted on 04/10/2009 9:22:33 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (No teleprompters were harmed in the creation of this post.)
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To: Scanian

The pirates have a big problem now. The USS Boxer just showed up. It’s carrying a Marine Expeditionary Unit. Within that MEU is a Battalion Landing Team. Combined arms, air, helicopter assault and amphibious landing companies.


5 posted on 04/10/2009 9:23:10 AM PDT by gandalftb (An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
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To: mgc1122

i agree, enough with the finger wagging and letter writing...good grief does this country not know how to stand up for itself anymore...??


6 posted on 04/10/2009 9:24:14 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Scanian

The pirates will never release all their hostages because they’re the only thing keeping them alive. I just don’t see a way out that will save all the hostages without empowering the pirates.

The more we give them the upper hand, the more their demands will grow.


7 posted on 04/10/2009 9:24:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: gandalftb

your point..??...do you really think we will unleash the dogs...??...


8 posted on 04/10/2009 9:25:10 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Scanian
I agree that we should take out the Somali pirates' land bases. I also think it is advisable to kill a lot of their women and children. A gratuitously large number of them.

Serious.

9 posted on 04/10/2009 9:26:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: Scanian

We have “little choice”? We have as much “choice” as we want to take. It boils down to the fact that we no longer have leadership. Our government wouldn’t even shoot down a missile if it was launched against us.


10 posted on 04/10/2009 9:26:20 AM PDT by RC2
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To: tatsinfla

“good grief does this country not know how to stand up for itself anymore...??”

Apparently the current administration is afraid to try. Ditto the majority of the world.


11 posted on 04/10/2009 9:27:05 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Sybeck1

So we are going to send a carrier battle group to take on four guys in a life raft because a DDG wasn’t enough? This is a battle of political will not a battle of fire power. The moment the Bainbridge stood by and let the pirates recapture the captain after he escaped this morning it was over. They called our bluff and Obama was found wanting. Sending more ships won’t do a damn bit of good if Obama won’t let them fight. The war is over, we lost on a Tuesday last November.


12 posted on 04/10/2009 9:27:37 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: gandalftb
What's the last thing in the world a pirate wants to see at sea.

The Boxer has arrived and Hellfire is a coming.

13 posted on 04/10/2009 9:27:51 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Scanian

Not only that, but we should declare that we will destroy any boat from Somalia that is in international waters (greater than 12 miles from the coast).


14 posted on 04/10/2009 9:27:53 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: mgc1122

its a shame to think of all the men and women that fought for this country...the mental and physical injurys and all that died and for what....so this asshat can apologize to world for our behavior and basically hand us over to the enemy.....sad sad state.....


15 posted on 04/10/2009 9:29:34 AM PDT by tatsinfla
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To: Scanian

16 posted on 04/10/2009 9:30:33 AM PDT by Clint Williams (Read Roto-Reuters -- we're the spinmeisters | America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: gandalftb

The USS Boxer just showed up. It’s carrying a Marine Expeditionary Unit. Within that MEU is a Battalion Landing Team. Combined arms, air, helicopter assault and amphibious landing companies.

But why would we think that the appeaser in chief would actually permit them to do their job?


17 posted on 04/10/2009 9:31:35 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: gandalftb
The pirates have a big problem now. The USS Boxer just showed up. It’s carrying a Marine Expeditionary Unit. Within that MEU is a Battalion Landing Team. Combined arms, air, helicopter assault and amphibious landing companies.

Won't do any good if the muslim president doesn't give orders.
18 posted on 04/10/2009 9:31:37 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220 (Leave no authority existing not responsible to the people ----- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mgc1122
Apparently the current administration is afraid to try.

Even Jimmy Carter would have given it a go. Obama is worse than Jimmuh!

19 posted on 04/10/2009 9:32:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

Well, at least he asked for the Boxer.


20 posted on 04/10/2009 9:33:04 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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