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Lawmaker angry over reluctance to enforce immigration law (Salt Lake Police Refuse)
KSL ^ | 8 April 2009 | Andrew Adams

Posted on 04/08/2009 7:10:29 AM PDT by batter

There may be retribution for police not enforcing Utah's new immigration law.

Senate Bill 81 makes it more difficult for illegal immigrants to get a job and to utilize some government services. But the responsibility of enforcement falls on police.

Detective Dennis McGowan says Salt Lake police won't be enforcing it as it is written because it implies a form of racial profiling.

Rep. Mike Noel, R-Kanab, was the House sponsor of the bill. He says he's angry, it's appalling and he will look at ways to make the Salt Lake City Police Department uphold the law.

"If they don't want to obey the law then I guess we're going to have to in some way have some retribution against them for not enforcing the law. So that would be my statement, and I would work hard to do that," he said.

McGowan said Tuesday, "Everyone is entitled to access to law enforcement and to have the peace of mind in doing so."

"[Senate] Bill 81 implies a form of racial profiling that's in sharp contrast to the basic principles, beliefs and core values of the Salt Lake City Police Department, and therefore we will not participate," he said.

Other police agencies have come out against SB 81. Even some lawmakers acknowledge it's not the best solution. It goes into effect July 1.

There's concern among some community leaders that many Latinos will simply leave the state.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalimmigrants; police; saltlake; utah
Typical race baiting garbage. They can tap into ICE databases and check everyone they pull over (the profiling line is total BS).

There's concern among some community leaders that many Latinos will simply leave the state.

I don't care who they are, if they are here illegally, I say: Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

1 posted on 04/08/2009 7:10:30 AM PDT by batter
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To: batter
Detective Dennis McGowan says Salt Lake police won't be enforcing it as it is written because it implies a form of racial profiling.

Immediate termination. Turn in your badge.

2 posted on 04/08/2009 7:15:29 AM PDT by central_va (Co. C, 15th Va., Patrick Henry Rifles-The boys of Hanover Co.)
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To: batter
it's appalling and he will look at ways to make the Salt Lake City Police Department uphold the law.

Salt Lake cops pick and choose the laws they prefer to enforce? We used to have a name for that here in Texas…

Disco Cops.

3 posted on 04/08/2009 7:16:20 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: batter

“There’s concern among some community leaders that many Latinos will simply leave the state.”

And the downside of that would be? Lowered social services costs? Less crime? More opportunities for Utahans to get entry level jobs?


4 posted on 04/08/2009 7:16:30 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: batter

Or can they run all plates they see?


5 posted on 04/08/2009 7:17:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: central_va
Noooo. More like a promotion in SLC.

If SLC wants the illegals, let the city take them all in. Noel should draft a bill requiring SLC to pay for all the social services and law enforcement by itself. They want the problem, let them have it and be responsible for it.

6 posted on 04/08/2009 7:18:54 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I think they already do that as SOP when they pull someone over anyway. The problem with plates is that it doesn’t tell you a whole lot about the driver and occupants (let alone if they are legally here or not).


7 posted on 04/08/2009 7:21:28 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: batter

Hey SLC cops . . . DO YOUR FREAKING JOB!


8 posted on 04/08/2009 7:22:39 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: batter
There's concern among some community leaders that many Latinos will simply leave the state.

Why would American citizens or legal residents want to leave?

This IS race baiting garbage. To try to mix Americans and legal residents of hispanic descent with illegal f'n aliens of hispanic descent is a low trick.

Illegals and their anchor babies need to leave NOW. They are criminals and parasites. That most are of "hispanic descent" is irrelevant to the discussion.

9 posted on 04/08/2009 7:25:21 AM PDT by jimt
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To: batter

“They want the problem, let them have it and be responsible for it.”

And if any other community suffers from the presence of illegals, send the bill to SLC. As a matter of fact, that ought to be the law across the land, as pertains to ANY sanctuary city.


10 posted on 04/08/2009 7:28:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Meanwhile, the sheeple graze mindlessly while awaiting slaughter at Hope and Change Ranch)
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Related Story: Immigration law has Utah church leaders concerned

"Father Martin Diaz of St. Theresa Catholic Church in Midvale..." is the spokesman and appears to be representing the Catholic Diocese of SLC:
"The Catholic Diocese of Salt Lake City says they will be posting information about the law on their Web site, www.dioslc.org."

11 posted on 04/08/2009 7:28:34 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: batter
Detective Dennis McGowan says Salt Lake police won't be enforcing it as it is written because it implies a form of racial profiling.

Wow, what happened to these f$%^heads just enforcing the law like they are supposed to do? Oh wait, they will refuse to enforce this kind of law over racial profiling. Will we see the same level of outrage and refusal to implement if a law is passed overturning explicit rights in the Constitution?

I won't hold my breath.

12 posted on 04/08/2009 7:43:39 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: batter
McGowan said Tuesday, "Everyone is entitled to access to law enforcement and to have the peace of mind in doing so."

"[Senate] Bill 81 implies a form of racial profiling that's in sharp contrast to the basic principles, beliefs and core values of the Salt Lake City Police Department, and therefore we will not participate," he said.

McGowan should be removed from his position immediately. His job is to enforce all laws, not just the ones he agrees with.

13 posted on 04/08/2009 7:51:06 AM PDT by One_American
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To: Centurion2000

“Bill 81 implies a form of racial profiling that’s in sharp contrast to the basic principles, beliefs and core values of the Salt Lake City Police Department, and therefore we will not participate”.

A truly incredible statement. This is police state language. It should frighten anyone, left or right, to have a police agency decide which laws it will openly ignore. This man needs to be relieved by the national guard immediately like you would a corrupt Mexican police agency. Police *do not* get to decide which laws measure up to what they believe and announce which they will ignore.

Incomprehensible.


14 posted on 04/08/2009 7:54:41 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Centurion2000

This pond scum of a cop is announcing that his department has basically installed itself as a Utah supreme court, empowered to review new laws. I assume the “detective” is a PIO mouthpiece for the chief?


15 posted on 04/08/2009 7:57:44 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: batter

Shows their true colors. They really only want to enforce laws that have something in it for them. Money, praise, whatever. Too much trouble to enforce all laws, fairly, and equally. Since they can/have to pick and choose they pick PROFIT.

I’m not surprised in the least.


16 posted on 04/08/2009 8:01:45 AM PDT by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: DesertRhino
national guard

Even if that were a consideration, the NG is controlled by Governor Huntsman...not a chance.

17 posted on 04/08/2009 8:03:18 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: batter

I’ll bet you that the Detective is head of the local police union and since Obama is a union supporter and supports decrease in ICE Immigration raids, he is supporting that position


18 posted on 04/08/2009 8:07:09 AM PDT by supermop (Somebody has to clean up the mess he will leave)
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To: batter
Paying police officers who choose not to uphold the law isn't in keeping with my principles. When any officer chooses that action, including the police chief and his subordinates, they need to be suspended without pay. Make it a 3 day suspension. Make it stick with a 3 strikes provision. The third time they do it, they are terminated.
19 posted on 04/08/2009 8:27:19 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: central_va

dontcha just love gubmint unions?


20 posted on 04/08/2009 8:30:22 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: batter

I think the Mormons’ open arms policy toward illegals is going to come back to haunt them.

First in-state tuition and $85,000,000 per year to support illegals now this.

The illegals can outbreed even the Mormons and they are
mostly Catholics.

Glad I won’t be here to see it!


21 posted on 04/08/2009 8:36:28 AM PDT by utax
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To: utax

I wouldn’t blame this on the “Mormons”. The vast majority of the population is opposed to this stuff. The legislators, OTOH, keep this stuff going (with help from the liberal SLC bastion and various interest group$. However, the population also bears some of the blame for being so apathetic that the politicians aren’t held to account...then again that can be said of the nation as well where flash brochures and commercials etc are more important than actual substance.


22 posted on 04/08/2009 9:19:59 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: batter

To be more specific:

Mormon Governor and Mormon politicians (who were just re-elected by the mostly Mormon electorate).


23 posted on 04/08/2009 10:01:32 AM PDT by utax
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To: utax

Oh please.


24 posted on 04/08/2009 10:18:36 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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To: batter; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!


25 posted on 04/08/2009 12:13:33 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Support Our Troops ~ www.AmericaSupportsYou.mil ~)
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To: batter
The police don't have any right at all to define which set of laws they want to enforce.

Saying what this man said shows that he is in rebellion against the laws of the State of Utah. He has no legitimacy in his job, and in addition to being terminated, should be prosecuted for willful malfeasance.

26 posted on 04/08/2009 1:58:23 PM PDT by Regulator (Welcome to Zimbabwe! Now hand over your property)
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To: batter

I’m down here in St. George.

When I was in Ohio, I didn’t see much illegal immigration, so I had no opinion of it, one way or the other. When I moved here 2 1/2 years ago, it was pure culture shock. It was like being dropkicked into Tiujana. I can only imagine how it must be in AZ.

For the record, I did work with folks that I knew to be illegal. They were, almost to a person, hard working & good people. Except for one, they all were trying to gain at least a working knowledge of English. What bothered me so much was the reckless family planning on our dime, that a couple of them utilized. The gal I worked with got pregnant and the taxpayers paid the entire bill. (Remember, you can’t get medical insurance without a working SSN, even if the employer offers it. Insurance Co won’t do it.) But the corker was the HIGH SCHOOL sophomore I worked with. Evidently, he dropped out when in CA. Came to Utah, learned he’d knocked up his 15 year old g/f in CA and the cops came here and arrested him for statutory rape. He went back to CA, served a few months. Came back to Utah, underage mom and baby in tow. My company rehired him and (you guessed it), she got pregnant again within 6 months. They have all since been deported, I think. But it’s hard to get this out of my head: He thought America was a great place because he got to work and send his money home to mom and dad AND we paid the hospital bills for his kids to be born.

And oh yeah, this place is infested with those shopping with their welfare and foodstamp cards.

Meantime, I (and my other American co-workers who earned a living wage and benefits) was laid off 1/23.


27 posted on 04/09/2009 3:24:27 AM PDT by Daisyjane69
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Sorry to hear that.

The other problem with illegal immigrants is that they are major SSN theft consumers. In Utah, the legislature conducted a limited study (only used data from kids on public assistance) and found thousands of children's SSNs have been compromised. One child had around 25 people using their SSN. Imagine what those figures would translate to in the general population (let alone some of the KSL stories on two and five year olds with bad credit records).

The AG has acknowledged that SSN theft for work makes up about 95% of the identity theft in the State. The majority of that is committed by illegal immigrants, with small amounts committed by fugitives and deadbeats. Unfortunately, Smilin' Jon and enough of our legislators prefer to accommodate the identity thieves and allow business to access a cheap, illegal workforce.

28 posted on 04/09/2009 6:34:28 AM PDT by batter (Wolverines!)
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