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Close call at SAC base (["There's nothing wrong with your TV sets"-:)]
Herald Tribune ^ | 4-2-09 | Billy Cox

Posted on 04/02/2009 1:03:45 PM PDT by VinL

Had the United States lost operational control of its nuclear missiles under another scenario — sabotage, computer failure, even bad weather or tectonic irritability — there would’ve been hearings, review boards, press, and maybe even the clatter of rolling heads.

But right — it’s only UFOs. Which means author Robert Hastings doesn’t have much competition in pursuit of this monster story.

This week, on the Internet radio operation Paracast, two more Air Force veterans once assigned to America’s ICBM silos joined Hastings to discuss how UFOs probed and disabled our weapons of mass destruction during the Cold War.

Bruce Fenstermacher, former crew commander at F.E. Warren AFB, and Patrick McDonough, head of a field survey team with the 1381st Geodetic Survey Squadron at Malmstrom AFB in 1966, are just the latest eyewitnesses who’ve approached Hastings and established their bona fides with DD-214 military discharge papers.

Since conducting his first interviews with missile-base operatives in the 1970s, Hastings says 115 have gone on the record with what they saw. At the time he discussed the results in his 2006 book “UFOs and Nukes” during an appearance on Larry King Live last summer, Hastings says he had 90 witnesses in the database. Obviously that number has spiked. He says Fenstermacher and McDonough decided to speak up following the audacious UFO incident over Stephenville, Tex., in 2008.

“I think it’s significant that not one person I’ve ever talked to has ever reported being leaned on to shut up — not one,” Hastings says from his home in Albuquerque, N.M. “I suspect it’s because the Pentagon knows if they try to muscle these guys, they’ll go to the media.”

But predicting how the MSM would respond in that event is a crap shoot. The latest witnesses merely reinforce a long established pattern of UFO surveillance — and, in some cases, the outright lockdown -- of America’s nuclear arsenal. FOIA-recovered documents detailing bold and persistent UFO incursions over Strategic Air Command bases along the northern U.S. frontier in 1975 have been in the public domain for decades. But press coverage has been restrained and spotty.

The most chilling incident in Hastings’ files didn’t surface until 2007. That’s when David H. Schuur, formerly with the 455th/91st Strategic Missile Wing at Minot AFB, recounted what happened at the Minuteman bunkers during either the summer of 1966 or ‘67, back when he was a first lieutenant working alert duty at a silo named Echo Capsule. Each silo housed 10 nukes apiece.

Sometime after midnight, easternmost Alpha Capsule reported a brightly lit UFO hovering in the no-fly zone overhead, and the console board operators were receiving “spurious indicaters” on each missile panel, as if each was being scanned individually. For the next hour or so, the object repeated the pattern in geographical sequence, concluding with Oscar Capsule before taking off.

When the UFO buzzed Echo Capsule, Schuur says seven or eight missiles began registering “spurious indicators.” Then a “Launch in Progress” switch got tripped, forcing operators to manually override with an “Inhibit” command. When the UFO passed, all systems returned to normal.

“Upon returning to the base the next day,” Schuur told Hastings, “my commander and I were met by the operations officer. He just said, ‘Nothing happened, nothing to discuss, goodbye.’ Our logs and tapes were turned in ... We never never debriefed by (the Office of Special Investigations) or anyone else.”

So far, chasing those records has turned into a fool’s errand. “You’re just not going to get them,” Hastings says. “They’re never going to release records that say, UFOs hit our nuclear base at Malmstrom today.’ That won’t happen.”

All he’s got are 115 people who say it did.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2silly4words; bs; gulllible; kookywebsite; sac
"we now return control of your nuclear arsenals." _:)

Vin

1 posted on 04/02/2009 1:03:45 PM PDT by VinL
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To: Quix

Hmmmm...Ping!


2 posted on 04/02/2009 1:10:00 PM PDT by JennysCool (Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action - Ian Fleming)
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To: JennysCool

ahhhh

I heard from a fellow AF officer (former missile wing) about UFO incident(s) involving Wyoming missile silos

Not the same type of tampering as this but what occurred was “impossible” by known technology


3 posted on 04/02/2009 1:16:06 PM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: VinL

It’s easy to poke fun at this stuff...but go to the Disclosure project on the net. There are over 400 former government employees who at a presser at the National Press Club in 01’ stated their willingness to testify before congress about the reality of UFO visitation.

This press conference was virtually boycotted by the American MSM. Though there were hundreds of reporters from around the world.

See the video at the site.


4 posted on 04/02/2009 1:16:49 PM PDT by kjo
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To: kjo

It’s easy to poke fun at this stuff...

*********************

I’m not poking fun.

The Truth is out there. -:)


5 posted on 04/02/2009 1:20:46 PM PDT by VinL (VinL---It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL
Hi Vin. Didn't think I'd see you here.....or that you would post this!

Whata crazy story. Of course, I am a sucker for these stories.....kind of an antidote to the run off the mill "collapse of western civilization....barbarians inside the gate" stuff I usually read late at night!

6 posted on 04/02/2009 1:22:13 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: Quix

Spaceships from God ping.


7 posted on 04/02/2009 1:22:26 PM PDT by stockpirate ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." Jouvenel)
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To: mick

Hey Mick

“There are more things in heaven and earth, my dear Horartio, that are even dreamnt of in your philosophies.”
-:)

Actually, I think this UFO stuff is serious, Mick. Governments are obviously paranoid that other governments have been contacted-—and as a result, the contacted government could exert world dominance.

Whether there’s been contact or not is another matter— but geo-politically, it’s a critical isuue, imo.

That aside, you didn’t know that Sarah was an alien??? -:)


8 posted on 04/02/2009 1:31:53 PM PDT by VinL (VinL---It is better to suffer every wrong, than to consent to wrong.)
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To: VinL

I don’t buy UFO’s

Where was Matthew Broderick??

“Would you like to play a game?”


9 posted on 04/02/2009 1:51:01 PM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: VinL

Maybe they’ll fool with the NK missile launch.


10 posted on 04/02/2009 1:54:54 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: VinL
Of course. And why do you think she just happens to come out of Alaska......hmmm...does Fortress of Solitude Ice Palace remind you of anyone?

Real name: Kal-La / Sarah Palin

AKA: The Woman of Steel, Big Blue, Last Daughter of Krypton, The Woman of Tomorrow

Species: Kryptonian

Hair: Black

Eyes: Brown

Relatives: Jor-El (father)

Lara-El (mother)

She is just biding her time.

11 posted on 04/02/2009 2:02:26 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: VinL

bttt


12 posted on 04/02/2009 2:09:05 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: VinL
a silo named Echo Capsule. Each silo housed 10 nukes apiece.

I'll call BS. First off, the silos weren't named Echo Capsule. That would be the Missile Launch Control Center. Each MLCC controlled 10 missiles, each in its own silo or Launch Complex.

Furthermore, since the MLCC is located about 150 feet underground, it would have been completely impossible for the sealed-in crew of 2 to know WTF was going on topside.

I spent 2 years at a SAC Missile base and attended the Space and Missile Orientation Course at Vandenberg AFB, CA. The classified week-long course was to orient non-missileer SAC officers, senior enlisted and senior civilian personnel to Space and Missile Operations. We toured MLCC's, witnessed exercise missile launches and toured actual silos along with 8 hours of lectures per day by operational missile crew members.

I was also cleared for CNWDDI, a special high security clearance that stood for Critical Nuclear Weapons Design and Deployment Information.

13 posted on 04/02/2009 2:19:40 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Their armor is weak at the neck and under the arms!")
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To: CholeraJoe

Former SAC-er here, too, Joe. You’re right, calling it BS!


14 posted on 04/02/2009 2:24:01 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: VinL
One thing does ring true:
Back then (mid sixties) when anyone submitted a sighting report it simply went away.
Over an eighteen month period in '66/67 I fielded a number of sightings (at or near ICBM facilities) and was never asked a follow up question.

(Never saw anything myself and could not get them on radar)

15 posted on 04/02/2009 2:30:45 PM PDT by norton
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To: mick
why do you think she just happens to come out of Alaska......hmmm...does Fortress of Solitude Ice Palace remind you of anyone?

I don't mean to blow your theory out of the water but the Fortress of Solitude was in the Antarctic, not alaska..............sorry, but Sarah Palin is not Superwoman (However, she might be her cousin)........LOL!

16 posted on 04/02/2009 2:33:52 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This country isn't going to hell in a handbasket, it's riding shotgun on an Indy car....)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Thanks, bud. Long time no see. Doing OK?


17 posted on 04/02/2009 2:34:38 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("Their armor is weak at the neck and under the arms!")
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To: Hot Tabasco
Damn!......facts, always facts......freepers always have to get bogged down in facts!

Can't we just get along together and accept each other's reality like liberals do?

18 posted on 04/02/2009 2:42:15 PM PDT by mick (Central Banker Capitalism is NOT Free Enterprise)
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To: mick
Of course. And why do you think she just happens to come out of Alaska......hmmm...does Fortress of Solitude Ice Palace remind you of anyone?

Real name: Kal-La / Sarah Palin

Well, if we're going to be taken over by aliens, may they all of female gender look like Sarah Palin.

Or Kal-La if you insist.

19 posted on 04/02/2009 3:37:15 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: VinL

Put Assistant Director Skinner on the stand and find out why he expended so much time and energy keeping Scully and Mulder in check.


20 posted on 04/02/2009 9:31:39 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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