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Battle Brewing Over Reconciliation, Which Is Anything but That
New York Times ^ | March 28, 2009 | Carl Hulse

Posted on 03/28/2009 12:58:41 PM PDT by reaganaut1

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Republicans are in a tizzy because Democrats are threatening to use the budgetary procedure known as reconciliation — it reconciles policy with fiscal guidelines — to overhaul the health care system, possibly enact climate change legislation and rewrite education policy.

They have good reason to fret: If Democrats successfully invoke reconciliation, such major bills could pass by a simple majority vote, denying Republicans the filibuster, their sole remaining weapon to influence federal policy given the Democratic grip on government.

“It stinks,” Senator John Cornyn, Republican of Texas, said as he pondered the prospect of Democrats pulling the trigger on reconciliation.

But there are a couple of problems for Republicans as they push back furiously against the idea, chief of which is the fact that they used the process themselves on several occasions, notably when enacting more than $1 trillion in tax cuts in 2001.

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[Senator Judd Gregg] and other Republicans, with some Democrats concurring, say that using reconciliation to accomplish Mr. Obama’s sweeping objectives would distort the intent of a procedure intended mainly to lower the deficit, not restructure the national economy.

“It is not appropriate to use reconciliation, which cuts off the role of the Senate, on something as broad and extensive as rewriting the health care laws of this country,” said Mr. Gregg in one of his many attempts to explain why he is against reconciliation after he was for it.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; bhobudget; budget; budgetreconciliation; filibuster; healthcarereform; juddgregg; republicans; senate
I wonder if the Times has ever described Democrats as being in a "tizzy".

There is a difference between using reconciliation to move tax rates, higher or lower, and using it to "reform" the health care system.

1 posted on 03/28/2009 12:58:41 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1
Quite scary.

Authoritarianism under Chicago thugs.

2 posted on 03/28/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Tyranny is alive and in full swing.


3 posted on 03/28/2009 1:06:02 PM PDT by mentor2k
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To: reaganaut1

What? They’re not calling it the “nuclear option” now that Demoncrats have the Senate?


4 posted on 03/28/2009 1:06:49 PM PDT by what's up
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To: reaganaut1

The Republicans need to find their eggs and go nuclear over this budget and spending mess. They will have to accept that the msm is going to demonize them in a way that will make the media bashing they took in the mid 90s over the medicare admin stuff look mild by comparison. They’ll need a no holds barred, calling Obama on the carpet as a full blown Socialist, campaign. They need to start winning hearts and minds. And they need to do it NOW!


5 posted on 03/28/2009 1:08:49 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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Agreed. They need to fear the backlash. They need to fear an informed populace...but who is going to inform the populace?


6 posted on 03/28/2009 1:12:06 PM PDT by Winstons Julia
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To: reaganaut1
Irrespective of which, whatever the Obamistas are doing now is set for repeal in 2011 when we take over the Congress.

The bill will be sent to the Democrats as a personal indenture which will be passed down to their heirs.

I presume we will use "reconciliation" to bankrupt them!

7 posted on 03/28/2009 1:16:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: what's up

Um, I’m pretty sure this process gets used all the time. As in, like 10+ times in the last 20 years or so (often with a republican congress). This isn’t like some crazy new thing the dems invented to get their bill passed.

Oh, found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_(Senate)

2007, 2006, 2003, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1997, 1997 (again), 1996, 1995, 1990, 1989, 1987, 1986, 1984, 1982, etc.


8 posted on 03/28/2009 1:23:39 PM PDT by OH4life
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I don't think it's ever been used for massive spending programs before, geared to overhaul our whole economic system for years to come.

Quite different.

9 posted on 03/28/2009 1:26:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Winstons Julia
but who is going to inform the populace?

The GOP should but the fire of '94 is out. Obama's support is starting to erode. An opportunity presents itself but the clock is ticking.

10 posted on 03/28/2009 1:27:05 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Help, I've voted Republican and I can't get up!)
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Shewt. We’re not even being told that there’s a country about to fire a missile that could hit us.


11 posted on 03/28/2009 2:35:04 PM PDT by Winstons Julia
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To: reaganaut1

Achtung! Schnell! Get into zee boxcar democrats.


12 posted on 03/28/2009 2:42:11 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: what's up

I did not even catch that. The NY Times is such a democrat propaganda machine. I remember them making the GOP out to be monsters with the “nuclear option”, but now its called “reconciliation”? What lying POSs.


13 posted on 03/28/2009 2:44:32 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: reaganaut1

Well, so much for bipartisan.
Wasn’t that the drumbeat of the last eight years?


14 posted on 03/28/2009 2:51:54 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: reaganaut1
There is a difference between using reconciliation to move tax rates, higher or lower, and using it to "reform" the health care system

It infuriates me that they even try to compare the two. Tax rates could be increased at a later time, no permanent damage. But listen up America! Once they mutilate our health care system THERE IS NO GOING BACK!

They are stealing your choice. It won't matter if you want to spend your life savings to get your child the best medical care possible, you won't be able to. You will have to settle for what they give you. And they want to sneak this through Congress with the ridiculous excuse that the GOP did it too, with tax cuts.

NO GOING BACK AND NO CHOICE!

15 posted on 03/28/2009 3:23:18 PM PDT by Kenny
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