Posted on 03/25/2009 12:34:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
Obama Youth Brigade: Church Attendance Forbidden
By Jonas Clark
Is this the change you really voted for? President Obama has only been in office for two months. Now we have HR 1388. The Bill was sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) with 37 others. The Bill was introduced to the floor of the House of Representatives where both Republicans and Democrats voted 321-105 in favor. Next it goes to the Senate for a vote and then on to President Obama.
This bill’s title is called “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education” (GIVE). It forms what some are calling “Obama’s Youth Brigade.” Obama’s plan is require anyone receiving school loans and others to serve at least three months as part of the brigade. His goal is one million youth! This has serious Nazi Germany overtones to it.
The Bill would forbid any student in the brigade to participate in “engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.” That means no church attendance or witnessing.
Again, is this what America voted for? Here is part of the HR1388 Bill’s wording:
SEC. 1304. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.
Section 125 (42 U.S.C. 12575) is amended to read as follows:
SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.
(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:
(1) Attempting to influence legislation.
(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.
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(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.
It’s bad enough that a freedom-hater was voted into Congress and came up with this bill, but it’s so much worse that so many other freedom-haters are in Congress and support it.
That's what I'm seeing. However, it may not be the intent of those who support it, but Satan will be glad to see large groups of young men and women having their witnessing and worship time limited. It's a sinister manipulation of people's time and energy.
Unable to resist stating the obvious, when something is required than it isn't volunteerism.
Yeah - I’d like to see it in black and white too.
“engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction...”
Seems to me they differentiate between “engaging” in religious instruction and “providing” religious instruction. Therefore it would seem to me that “engaging” means being a recipient as well (and would included “attending” church.) And if it doesn’t - then spell it out.
OTOH - it would seem to me that the if the whole idea of the thing is to give back to your community, then that should include what the kid’s heart is in. Whether it be church related, school, or even in the local political scene. Or whatever is uplifting to the general community. Of course once it gets going there would be numerous AIG type backtrackings (Oh - well, we didn’t mean you could volunteer for the KKK, or the Urban Satanic Leaque!) But that’s what happens when you force kids to “volunteer”.
Of course, if the idea is to give to Obama......
Amendment 13:
“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”
Not really true; the program would actually encourage worship of OBAMA. So some religion would be allowed, you see.
I think it just means that church-related work doesn’t count as your “mandatory volunteerism.”
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Here’s the bill. Can anyone clarify this?
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/1/111-h1388/show
I don’t see in the prohibitions cited anything that prevents a participant from attending church.
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If you were at a campus, though, would you be allowed to leave for church services? How would that work?
who will they be?.......those adults cast out of leadership roles with the Boy Scouts for their "man/boy" love philosophies, Is Barney Frank involved somehow?
hehehhehee...'illegal' ???
UN-Constitutional ???
whatcha bet that facing mecca and kneelin to kis rocks 5 times a day is not only allowed, but that the flying carp, er prayer rugs, are required issue equipment at the taxpayers expense...
they will boldly advocate that while simultaneously criminalzing any CHRISTian attempts to serve the Lord...
its that whole 'idol' thingy and the blatant implementation will simply serve to create more chaos...its what evil does...
BTTT
have we forgotten the 'definition of "IS" '???
how about "shall NOT be infringed" ???
any FReeper who argues that ambiguous wording will mean anythin other than worship of a kenyan f***ing commie has lost their mind, or simply is being worn down from the blitz that is the totus...
HAS THIS BILL PASSED THE SENATE YET?
“asking, but what might Muslims say about this?:
Trust me just as Obama said NO LOBBYIST and then gave “passes” to the ones he wanted, he will do the same for Muslim.
This was actually passed?
I didn’t vote for this nut!
“Obama must be dumb as a box of rocks if he thinks the majority of Americans will accept this.”
Count me in with the box of rocks then, because I’m pretty sure America will roll over and go back to watching American Idol.
Which is something that needs to be hammered home in their faces.
The same people who protested the draft are now proposing a similar program.
Isn't it nice to live life without any conscience, guiilt, or hypocracy to disturb your sleep?
They are going the pure communist route. Destroy the churches.
Pray for Americ, Our Troops and obama’s Continued Failure
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