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Obama Youth Brigade: Church Attendance Forbidden
The Voice Magazine ^ | 03/25/09 | Jonas Clark

Posted on 03/25/2009 12:34:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix

Obama Youth Brigade: Church Attendance Forbidden
By Jonas Clark

Is this the change you really voted for? President Obama has only been in office for two months. Now we have HR 1388. The Bill was sponsored by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) with 37 others. The Bill was introduced to the floor of the House of Representatives where both Republicans and Democrats voted 321-105 in favor. Next it goes to the Senate for a vote and then on to President Obama.

This bill’s title is called “Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education” (GIVE). It forms what some are calling “Obama’s Youth Brigade.” Obama’s plan is require anyone receiving school loans and others to serve at least three months as part of the brigade. His goal is one million youth! This has serious Nazi Germany overtones to it.

The Bill would forbid any student in the brigade to participate in “engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.” That means no church attendance or witnessing.

Again, is this what America voted for? Here is part of the HR1388 Bill’s wording:

SEC. 1304. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

Section 125 (42 U.S.C. 12575) is amended to read as follows:

SEC. 125. PROHIBITED ACTIVITIES AND INELIGIBLE ORGANIZATIONS.

(a) Prohibited Activities- A participant in an approved national service position under this subtitle may not engage in the following activities:

(1) Attempting to influence legislation.

(2) Organizing or engaging in protests, petitions, boycotts, or strikes.

(7) Engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; agenda; bho44; brownshirts; frontpage; giveact; hr1388; irreligiousleft; islamobama; moralabsolutes; obama; obamayouth; oshirts; religion; sharia
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1 posted on 03/25/2009 12:34:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: narses; NYer; SJackson; MeekOneGOP

Ping


2 posted on 03/25/2009 12:35:11 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

Sig heil, suckers.


3 posted on 03/25/2009 12:36:32 PM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: Fiddlstix

So, what are they going to do to someone who simply ignores the prohibitions on free speech?


4 posted on 03/25/2009 12:37:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fiddlstix

This stuff is happening way to fast.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 12:37:28 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Fiddlstix
I would hope that they are just saying that ‘serving at your church doesn't count’, but I am not ‘legal minded’. I don't even see abortion in the first amendment...
6 posted on 03/25/2009 12:37:33 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes
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To: Fiddlstix

Violation of the constitution ping.


7 posted on 03/25/2009 12:37:43 PM PDT by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--two and a half years-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: All
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8 posted on 03/25/2009 12:39:22 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Zeppelin

Jebus H. Hillary is looking soooo much better.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 12:41:25 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, get your kids out of government schools, pray for the Republic.)
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To: Fiddlstix
Don't get me wrong, I think this whole GIVE/Obama Youth thing is creepy, but this prohibition is only for when the little dears are on the govt clock.

I heard a Pubbie added the language about no lobbying, strikes, union organizing, etc. RATS are trying to strike that.

Let's hope the whole bill is sent down the crapper where it belongs.

10 posted on 03/25/2009 12:42:05 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: cornelis

Better they boil the water so quickly the frog jumps out than so slowly the frog doesn’t notice.


11 posted on 03/25/2009 12:42:15 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: muawiyah

I have to believe that the restrictions apply only when you are “on the clock”. Otherwise it would never pass constitutional muster.

But while we are at it, I want to see an amendment added making it illegal to deputize them and or to require them to carry a firearm or to issue them a firearm in the course of their job.


12 posted on 03/25/2009 12:43:27 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is the belief that most people are better off if everyone was equally poor and miserable.)
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To: Fiddlstix

There’s absolutely no way this is trying to forbid people in the youth corps or whatever it is from ever going to church or witnessing. That would be blatantly illegal and even the dimmest bulb on Capitol Hill knows it wouldn’t hold up. I wouldn’t be surprised however if they’re saying that going to church doesn’t count as volunteer work.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:07 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: Fiddlstix
“Attempting to influence Legislation.” You mean like attempting to influence elections? How about busing protesters to harass AIG bonus recipients?

It all sounds so innocent. But then, isn't that how they all start?

14 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:13 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (WHAT? Where did my tag line go? (ACORN))
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To: LearnsFromMistakes
I would hope that they are just saying that ‘serving at your church doesn't count’, but I am not ‘legal minded’. I don't even see abortion in the first amendment...

At least abortion clinics, ACORN (those indicted for voter fraud), and union activities are excluded from receiving any services from volunteers.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h1388/text

Sec 1301 (b)

We'll see how selectively these rules get enforced for religious organizations (that don't recognize gay marriage, of course) and ignored for unions and abortion clinics...

15 posted on 03/25/2009 12:44:31 PM PDT by Zeppelin
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To: Fiddlstix
This is WRONG. Obama must be dumb as a box of rocks if he thinks the majority of Americans will accept this. I keep trying to tell my self that this can't be happening but I am having a hard time believing ME.
16 posted on 03/25/2009 12:46:33 PM PDT by WellyP (obama must go!)
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To: Martin Tell
Don't get me wrong, I think this whole GIVE/Obama Youth thing is creepy, but this prohibition is only for when the little dears are on the govt clock.

That's how I read it. If so, this is a good thing. Now I guess I'll have to read the actual bill to confirm that.

17 posted on 03/25/2009 12:46:38 PM PDT by giotto
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The restrictions are bizarre. Government employees are not subject to them and it makes no sense for a kid doing slave labor to be subjected to them at all. It's not like they are gong to be "on the clock".

One of the big problems we will all have with the Obamaistas is that so few of them have any connection to the real world. It's like they start the day by kicking back with a little cocaine or something.

18 posted on 03/25/2009 12:47:26 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fiddlstix

The Bill would forbid any student in the brigade to participate in “engaging in religious instruction, conducting worship services, providing instruction as part of a program that includes mandatory religious instruction or worship, constructing or operating facilities devoted to religious instruction or worship, maintaining facilities primarily or inherently devoted to religious instruction or worship, or engaging in any form of religious proselytization.” That means no church attendance or witnessing.

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Unless its negroes going to a mosque, or reading a koran or selling the newspaper of the nationofislam.


19 posted on 03/25/2009 12:48:24 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Martin Tell

I don’t know - if this wording is accurate, it looks like the government is attempting to suppress religious freedom - definitely unconstitutional. That would be like saying senators and reps may not attend church services while in office, right?


20 posted on 03/25/2009 12:48:56 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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