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Militia report evokes flurry of criticism (Missouri)
Columbia Daily Tribune ^ | Sunday, March 22, 2009 | T.J. Greaney

Posted on 03/22/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by listenhillary

A report compiled by federal and Missouri law enforcement officials has ignited a firestorm of criticism that shows no signs of letting up.

A confidential analysis on “The Modern Militia Movement” compiled by the state “fusion center” has drawn livid responses from people and groups listed in the document. State officials — including those at the Missouri Information Analysis Center in Jefferson City, which compiled and disseminated the report to police — stand behind it, contending it has been misinterpreted.

The eight-page MIAC report listed warning signs indicating someone might be a domestic terrorist or a member of a militia. The signs include: subversive literature, certain political bumper stickers and the Gadsden flag of the Revolutionary War with its “Don’t tread on me” motto.

The report also said “militia members most commonly associate with third-party political groups” and listed several political parties and their 2008 presidential candidates.

Supporters of those parties now fear their members will be profiled and are demanding an apology for assertions in the report.

“I’m a father of three, I’m a husband of one and a grandfather of six,” said Chuck Baldwin, the 2008 presidential candidate of the Constitution Party who was named in the document. “And when they read this, my family was extremely distraught.”

Baldwin said Thursday in a phone interview that he, Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul penned a joint letter to Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon demanding he repudiate the report.

Continued http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2009/mar/22/militia-report-evokes-flurry-of-criticism/

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: constitutionparty; domesticterrorism; libertarians; lp; miac; militia; missouri; profiling; ronpaul
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Govenor Jay Nixon and MIAC are not backing down. It appears we were not supposed to see this report.

From the article. "MIAC stressed it “has the highest regard” for the U.S. Constitution and the Missouri Constitution. It labeled the release of the militia report “unauthorized.”"

1 posted on 03/22/2009 1:17:37 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: djsherin; bamahead; traviskicks; Bokababe; dcwusmc

ping


2 posted on 03/22/2009 1:19:10 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: listenhillary

What’s going on with Missouri? Something in the water? That place sure has become unfriendly to freedom-loving Americans.


3 posted on 03/22/2009 1:21:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Just being a "U.S. citizen" does not make one an American.)
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To: listenhillary
Those JBT doofuses need to take a gander at 10USC311, aka the Militia Act of 1903.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

4 posted on 03/22/2009 1:21:25 PM PDT by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: listenhillary

When did being a member of a militia, become against the law? Our Second Ammendment even talks about a militia.


5 posted on 03/22/2009 1:21:33 PM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/Funbobbasso)
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To: listenhillary

6 posted on 03/22/2009 1:22:49 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: listenhillary
...someone might be a domestic terrorist or a member of a militia...

Ok, I get that being a "domestic terrorist" is bad - witness Oklahoma City. But what is inherently bad about being in a militia? What is wrong with being prepared and skilled? If our leaders really thought they were doing a good job of being a representative republic, they'd have no fear of people's hobbies and interests. The fact that they feel threatened by them, and many want to take away our 2nd Amendment guaranteed rights, tells me they know they are doing a very poor job.

7 posted on 03/22/2009 1:22:53 PM PDT by CodeMasterPhilzar (I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change.")
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe this is just ACORN money at work, preparing for the Civilian Korps. I have a Don’t Tread on Me flag hanging from my front porch. Molon labe.


8 posted on 03/22/2009 1:24:15 PM PDT by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: rabscuttle385

There are some good comments at the article. Also some stupid comments also.


9 posted on 03/22/2009 1:24:55 PM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: listenhillary

So what are people called who have Obama stickers on their cars?


10 posted on 03/22/2009 1:26:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: listenhillary

Being stereotyped in a bad image is the absolute least of my worries, all that matters is ones pureness of heart and the amount of magazines one can carry.


11 posted on 03/22/2009 1:28:47 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: listenhillary
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12 posted on 03/22/2009 1:29:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: SkyDancer
So what are people called who have Obama stickers on their cars?

Dumb Masses

13 posted on 03/22/2009 1:30:44 PM PDT by Bryanw92
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To: SkyDancer

Useful idiots


14 posted on 03/22/2009 1:30:45 PM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: listenhillary
The report also said “militia members most commonly associate with third-party political groups” and listed several political parties and their 2008 presidential candidates.

And, of course, these bastards wholly neglect eco-terrorists and leftist third parties (Socialist, Communist, Green, etc.).

15 posted on 03/22/2009 1:31:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: listenhillary

A note to the Feral Government: Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.


16 posted on 03/22/2009 1:31:49 PM PDT by Feckless (No Birth Certificate... No Peace)
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To: listenhillary

I love the idiot politicians and poly sci major’s use of the word “fusion”. If they would like to try to understand how we do such things using math, I’d enjoy watching their eyes show the “Obamaloon Glaze”.

Politics - for those who absolutely positively cannot do anything productive in life.


17 posted on 03/22/2009 1:34:04 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SkyDancer

Morons?


18 posted on 03/22/2009 1:34:37 PM PDT by hyperconservative (Free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity-The Kudlow Creed)
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To: listenhillary

Didn’t Clinton go after militia groups when he was president?


19 posted on 03/22/2009 1:35:04 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: listenhillary

Evidently whoever made up this “militia list” doesn’t regard the islamic training camps as militia???? I’ve read there are quite a few throughout the United States, maybe even in MO????


20 posted on 03/22/2009 1:35:49 PM PDT by tillacum (.)
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To: SkyDancer
So what are people called who have Obama stickers on their cars?

Obama's Civil Defense Force.

21 posted on 03/22/2009 1:37:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
McVeigh was never a militia member. He wasn't a Christian either. He said, “Science is my religion.” Just another racist social Darwinist.
22 posted on 03/22/2009 1:37:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Hello,

I don't know....but I DO NOT LIKE IT. The whole world has gone nuts...

MOgirl

23 posted on 03/22/2009 1:39:02 PM PDT by MOgirl
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To: ncpatriot

Yep. Everything in Obammy’s administration is just a rehash of a Clinton policy, jacked up to be 10x more socialist/fascist than last time.


24 posted on 03/22/2009 1:39:46 PM PDT by thecabal (Hey Obama, when you gonna start sharin' the sacrifice?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

McVeigh was definitely a leftist. I read some of the stuff he wrote and it sounded like something you would hear at an ANSWER rally.


25 posted on 03/22/2009 1:40:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: tillacum

MU - One student supplied Osama bin Laden with a satellite phone. Another alumni was Saddam’s chemical weapon adviser. Another local business man was sent to jail for funneling funds to terrorist organizations.

I’d bet they were not flying the Gadsen flag.


26 posted on 03/22/2009 1:41:20 PM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: rabscuttle385; djsherin; bamahead; murphE; Extremely Extreme Extremist; Captain Kirk; Gondring; ...

Ron Paul ping!
We’re all terrorists now!


27 posted on 03/22/2009 1:41:36 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: skeeter
Right ALL - but they wouldn't be singled out say if I had this on my car .....

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28 posted on 03/22/2009 1:44:37 PM PDT by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ncpatriot

I think so. Some memo from his administration stated something like “defenders of the Constitution are right wing extremists”... it took a couple seconds for that to sink in. Defenders of the Constitution were a group of people to be feared?


29 posted on 03/22/2009 1:44:47 PM PDT by djsherin (Government is essentially the negation of liberty.)
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To: listenhillary
Some one should let the US Navy know that these jackass law enforcement officers at the Missouri Information Analysis Center think they are 'dangerous'.




30 posted on 03/22/2009 1:48:56 PM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: RC2

“When did being a member of a militia, become against the law? Our Second Ammendment even talks about a militia.”

I would say that the OLDEST American Tradition, bar none, is that of being in a Militia.


31 posted on 03/22/2009 1:49:33 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: WaterBoard
The eight-page MIAC report listed warning signs indicating someone might be a domestic terrorist or a member of a militia. The signs include: subversive literature, certain political bumper stickers and the Gadsden flag of the Revolutionary War with its “Don’t tread on me” motto.
These 'Missouri law enforcement officials' are either morons or ignorant of American history to come to such a conclusion. SHAME!



"The Navy’s First Jack with its “Don’t Tread on Me” motto flies on the Battleship Missouri Memorial in Pearl Harbor, July 8, 2005. On Sept. 11, 2002, the secretary of the Navy directed all U.S. Navy ships to fly the First Jack in place of the Union Jack for the duration of the war on terrorism. Defense Dept. photo by U.S. Navy Cmdr. Jane Campbell"
32 posted on 03/22/2009 1:53:23 PM PDT by WaterBoard (Somewhere a Village is Missing it's Socialist.)
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To: WaterBoard

“subversive literature”?

What happened to the first amendment? Since when did we have “subversive literature” in America? I guess the Constitution is “subversive literature” in this Orwellian double speak.


33 posted on 03/22/2009 2:02:34 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: listenhillary

Sounds like Mizzou has gone total Nutty Globalist

Wonder if they will go after all the third party voters next?


34 posted on 03/22/2009 2:03:23 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (The Biggest Threat To American Soverignty Is Rampant Economic Anti-Americanism)
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To: listenhillary

Truth be known, there is a “The Modern Militia Movement” within our country.

This organized movement is, beyond any reasonable doubt, the most dangerous that has ever threatened our country and our way of life. They seek to destroy everything our country has ever stood for in it’s over 200 years of existence.

These cretins are even more dangerous than the terrorists that want to cut off the heads of our children and they are here, within our country.

They do not fly the flag of another country and they live within each community across this once great land. They are called many things, but... they are the democrats.

These jerks can yodel from the mountain top all they want, I will not be intimidated away from my love of country and willingness to defend our liberty and God given rights.

Short version of above..... “screw ‘em”


35 posted on 03/22/2009 2:04:38 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: WaterBoard

I was not aware of that. I wonder if that directive has been rescinded yet?


37 posted on 03/22/2009 2:07:34 PM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: WaterBoard

I like that better than the yellow flag, I think I will buy it and fly it.

My USA flag came down on January 20th and I will not raise it again until Buckwheat is no longer contaminating OUR White House.


38 posted on 03/22/2009 2:08:52 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: WaterBoard

Maybe I will fly both this and the yellow... it’s is a 30’ pole.


39 posted on 03/22/2009 2:10:32 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: WaterBoard

Back in 2001 Simon Wisenthal Center created CD called “DIGITAL HATE” - was supposedly composed of all the
“hate” sites on the internet. Their idea of hate encompassed web sites for freeze dried food supplier -
was listed as being “survivalist”, a magician who practiced
cowboy action shooting, group called “Women Against Gun Control”, singer Steve Vaus and Paul Weyrich’s Free Congress
Foundation. Seems anybody who mentioned being against
gun control or for the second amendment was tagged as “anti
government/militia.


40 posted on 03/22/2009 2:14:04 PM PDT by njslim
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To: listenhillary

How many people that meet any of the criteria are documented to have committed acts of terrorism?


41 posted on 03/22/2009 2:17:28 PM PDT by jimbobfoster
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To: listenhillary

I couldn’t help but notice that discussions of the chattering class about domestic terrorists never seem to include William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.


42 posted on 03/22/2009 2:22:50 PM PDT by VR-21 ("I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Senator Howard Metzenbaum)
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It wouldn't surprise me if after four years with the obomotron at the wheel, we see a bunch of states slip back into the Red column.
43 posted on 03/22/2009 2:23:25 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: jimbobfoster

The people roasted in Waco come to mind. Upthread, someone said McVeigh was never in a militia.


44 posted on 03/22/2009 2:25:39 PM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Feckless

...Posted this on another thread. Local talk show host in a speech at the Lexington tea party pointed to the crowd and said,”Congress, fear this”!!!


45 posted on 03/22/2009 2:27:56 PM PDT by gargoyle (It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority,/ snip. S. Adams.)
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To: listenhillary

Seems like McVeigh showed up at some kind of militia meeting here in Michigan and they were the first to call the FBI because they thought he was dangerous.


46 posted on 03/22/2009 2:30:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
What’s going on with Missouri?

Same thing in the rest of the country, I guess -- when you look at a red/blue map, the tiny pinpricks of blue want to hornswoggle the whole map, which is bathed in red.

47 posted on 03/22/2009 2:30:31 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: listenhillary

i think this is about showing that not all terrorists are islamics...sort of like affirmative action for whites Christians to make sure they get their share of the blame for terrorism.


48 posted on 03/22/2009 2:35:59 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: SkyDancer
So what are people called who have Obama stickers on their cars?

I fall into that category. I like to call us "the constitutionally literate"

49 posted on 03/22/2009 2:36:27 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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To: SkyDancer

WHOA. For some reason I missed obama, and was thinking Culpepper flag! I DIDM NOT MEAN THAT.

DO OVER !!!


50 posted on 03/22/2009 2:37:22 PM PDT by xmission (www.iwilldefendtheconstitution.com)
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