Posted on 03/20/2009 12:17:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
I support the Christian US soldiers occupying Serb land. Your loyalty is not to the USA at all, but to the foreign Serb enemy who wish for the deaths of my American brothers and sisters in arms. So I really don’t care what religion you are, or what religion the people are who live on the land we are occupying. You are the enemy. Period.
“You are the enemy. Period.”
Won’t answer my question, or can’t? Are you an atheist, a Mohammedan perhaps? A Christian American would never condone the destruction of Christian communities on behalf of aggressive Mohammedanism.
I know your kind thinks you are the judge of who is a Christian and who isn't. Personally I find that attitude downright un-Christian, and Un-American.
Maybe you should correct yourself before you deem yourself fit to correct others.
“I have nothing to prove to the likes of you.”
The you won’t object if the rest of us, in light of your status along with an Albanian troll or two as the chief mouthpiece for the drug running, white slaving, Jihadi Mohammedans of the Balkans, assume that you, Mustapha, are in fact a Mohammedan, at a minimum an “Moh-symp”...right? :)
And why, pray tell, should any of us credit what a Mohammedan, or a Mohammedan sympathizer, thinks is ...”un-Christian, and Un-American”?
Maybe Serbs would be welcome in Kosovo if they were more interested in converting the Kosovar Albanians to Christianity like the Catholics are now doing. Instead they turned their religion into a tribal war standard, like Islam. They are known by their fruits.
You're a real hero, Joe.
“The crisis here is very deep and Zapatero, although having most of the media in his side, is losing elections.”
I spoke just yesterday with colleagues in Malaga and Almunecar who said the exact same thing. They, by the way, have been supportive of the government’s refusal to recognize Kosovo though not out of any sense of anti-Americanism but rather because they view the KLA as a successful Balkan version of ETA.
Remember the impeached ex president clinton, had said at the start of this mess over there.. our troops would be there for one year.. and how many years now..15? maybe I cannot remember...
Clinton bin Lyin stated that the troops would be removed from Kosovo and home by Christmas 1995.
(Just one month after he efectively shut down the US Goverment BUT effectively had placed the blame (with the MSM direct involvement) on Newt/Republicans)
Serbia is allies with the ayatollahs! Just another sorry-ass bunch of Eurotrash dhimmis!
Joe, the Serbs were fighting the war on terror and fighting Islamofascism long before 9/11. They began this ""fight" in the former Yugoslavia in 1992 in Bosnia, and continued to wage that "fight" in Kosovo. For their "efforts" to fight Islamofascism, they were accused of and charged with "Genocide" and "Ethnic Cleansing". That's why I've never understood your criticism of Serbia and the Serbs and your vitriol against them on this forum. It doesn't make any sense.
Here's something for you to read, if you care to, that illustrates my point. It was written in 2001, shortly after September 11th:
AMERICA'S WAR AGAINST MUSLIM TERRORISTS: A WAR THE ORTHODOX SERBS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR YEARS
Imagine what it must be like now for Serbian-Americans and American Serbs. I can and have often in the past 10 years. Now, with the issue forced for real on American soil, the Serbian issue takes on even deeper meaning. I love this country, America. I love it more now, and appreciate it more now, than ever before. I've grown less and less tolerant of Anti-Americanism over the years, despite my education and some of those around me teaching and preaching at me that America is flawed and that she does not deserve the blind faith and allegiance she has been afforded for so long by so many of her citizens. The last ten years have put American Serbdom in an especially difficult dilemma, for when America turned against her one loyal and true ally in the Balkans, loyalties and faith became tested and challenged.
Two years ago, American led NATO began bombing the Serbs, after years of sanctions and demonization and lies and punishments leveled against the Serbian people and years of undercutting and undermining sincere Serbian efforts to do the right thing by their people and their country, and in many cases, by their faith and by God. Suddenly, being an American Serb or Serbian American posed a very real problem. It was as if suddenly you had to take sides, and no matter which side you took, you could be considered a traitor by your own people, whichever those people happened to be at the moment. The NATO war against the Serbs in the former Yugoslavia was a war against people like me, too. And now there is the irony of America's war not against the Serbs, but those very same enemies the Serbs have been battling for years. Osama was everywhere in Bosnia, and the Serbs were dealing with him everyday, while the Americans were ignoring the Muslim threat and encroachment of Islam into Europe.
Two years ago, I sat at a desk in the office where I worked and listened to a co-worker, a young man who'd been in the American military, tell his friend on the phone that ‘what America needed to do was "carpet bomb" them, the Serbs...to level Belgrade....to finish the job.’ And I listened to him remark about Madeleine Albright and how great she was, because she knew how to get the job done. I couldn't take it. I told him that I'd love to see him get sent over there, to Muslim territory in Yugoslavia and see how he'd like it...that these Muslims he was supporting would be more than happy to lay him out on the grill and have a picnic.... My boss at the time, a young man who didn't much care about Bosnia or Kosovo or Serbs or much of anything else over there, recognized that there was a problem in his office and called his lawyer. After the talk with the lawyer, he called a meeting of the entire staff of the office and informed us that this issue was not to be discussed in his office ever again, not on company time or on company property. My fellow employees, some of whom had suddenly come to see me as a "foreigner" who was impinging on their "American civil rights", listened as he dictated the new rules. One spoke up, and while looking directly at me, reminded my boss that this was America and couldn't people say what they wanted? My boss answered with: "This may be America, but this right here is my office and those rights don't apply."
I would not have to listen to fellow employees talk about what America should do to the Serbs to "finish the job" anymore after that. But it was in the air. And the next day, a few of the guys, to make their own statement in their own way, brought little American flag lapel pins and placed them on the desks of everyone in the office, except for me. I was no longer an "American" in their eyes.
That same Spring of 1999, the Spring of the bombing, a Serb who was looking to get citizenship in this country, America, by hook or by crook and using whatever means he could manipulate to get that privilege, challenged me when I protested his vitriol against the Americans. Here he was, a Serb who had manipulated his way into America and who had manipulated his way into staying here after coming within a hairsbreadth of being deported back to the homeland he had escaped from, now suddenly laying down the line about loyalty. He yelled, "Are you an American or a Serb!" It was then that it was brought home to me. To hear an American beating down the Serbs made me a Serb. To hear a Serb beating down the Americans made me an American.
Now, two years later, though I knew what the Serbian reaction would inevitably be upon the tragic events of September 11, 2001, when the heart of America learned firsthand about what was in the heart of the Muslim terrorists, I also knew that I would not accept any Serbian reaction that celebrated that day. I did not, nor will I ever want, to hear any Serb saying that America got what was coming to her and that she deserved it on account of what had been done to the Serbs. That would hurt too much and would make me too angry. Angry enough to forget all about that fact that it was completely understandable given what had been done to the Serbs all these years, and so unjustifiably so. I guess then that this makes me an American.
What I am thinking now is that somehow I hope the Americans realize that the war they are now waging is the very same war the Serbs have been waging. The Serbs recognized who the bad guys were on their own soil and they tried to do something about it. Unfortunately, unlike the Americans, they did not have so much of the world on their side and all the resources and means at their disposal to get the job done. Instead, not only did the Serbs have to struggle against the enemy and fight them under the harshest of circumstances, those who should have been their allies in that struggle turned against them instead and punished them for their efforts.
I hope this will be the wake up call. I hope that America concedes that the Muslim terrorists they have been aiding and abetting in the former Yugoslavia are the same Muslim terrorists who have been aided and abetted by the Osama bin Ladens of the world, and for whom bin Laden is not the villain, but the hero. I hope the Americans realize just how badly they screwed up in taking sides against the Serbs. I hope they realize that the Serbs have been fighting the very same war against the very same enemy that America now finds itself facing down.
I can almost see it now. They are recognizing that Osama bin Laden got a whole lot of help from the Bosnian Muslims and the Albanians, and that they got a whole lot of help from him in their war against the Serbs. In light of all this, it isn't so farfetched to imagine that come one day soon, it will be determined that there "just isn't enough evidence" against Mr. Milosevic or any of the other Serbian fighters who now await trial for "crimes against humanity," and that these "Serbian war criminals" will be released. I don't know. Maybe it is farfetched, because then the Americans would have to face the world with the admission that they made a huge error in judgment: they took the wrong side.
I am an American. I'm getting stronger and stronger in my patriotism. I tolerate Anti-Americanism less and less. I can only hope that doesn't make me less of a Serb. And though it is wrong and ignorant of me, I am glad that now the world is taking a whole new look at who the "bad guy" is, and that it is the Muslims who are having to concern themselves with demonization and prejudice and the consequences of being a certain nationality or religious faith, and with being the target of world condemnation. I can only hope that this attitude does not make me less of an American or a Christian.
Right or wrong, good or bad, there is one thing I know to be true, whether as an American or as a Serb. The Serbs knew who the bad guy was.
Sandy Marquette September 2001 U.S.A.
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Joe, you can't possibly be serious. The Serbs are the best and only true friend the Americans had in the former Yugoslavia.
Please name your American "brothers and sisters in arms" who have been kidnapped, tortured, imprisoned, or killed by the Serbs.
Do you realize that you have fully bought into the lies and propaganda of the very people you purport to hate so much - the Islamofascists and their allies?
They absolutely count on people just like you to further their agenda. But believe me, they are not your friend.
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And by the way, this 9/11 timeline was not written by Serbs, so there are others who see this incredible disparity between the context we have been force fed and the truth, too.
The reason why Spain doesn’t recognise the declaration of independance by Kosovo was due to its own internal provinces that want home rule/independance - Catalonia, Galicia and Basque Country.
Spain is still right and the U.S. is still wrong.
No use bumping your gums about it. No U.S. administration is going to reverse the decision over recognising Kosovo independance. Neither is the international community. Serbia is completely hamstrung over the issue and has no military option.
I’ll bump them anyway.
So this means you support the communist regime of Barry Obama, thanks for the clarification.
Wrong. Supporting America means praying Obama fails.
Now you’re being a hypocrite.
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