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US criticizes Spain on Kosovo pullout
AP ^ | March 20, 2009

Posted on 03/20/2009 12:17:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The United States is issuing unusually strong criticism of NATO ally Spain by expressing surprise at its decision to pull out its troops from the U.N. peacekeeping mission in Kosovo.

State Department spokesman Robert Wood says the United States was "deeply disappointed" by the decision. He says Washington only learned of the move shortly before Spain announced it publicly.

Defense Minister Carme Chacon made the announcement Thursday, saying, "The mission has been completed and it is time to return home."

Asked if the United States shared that assessment, Wood said, "Not at all."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: balkans; clintonswar; dhimmwit; islamofascists; jihad; kosovo; kosovoisserbia; spain; spanishtroops; wrongplace; wrongside; wrongwar
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Spain urges US to 'respect' Kosovo pullout decision - March 20, 2009 - "We respect the position of other countries, but at the same time we ask for respect for our position," said a source at the office of Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

At an EU summit in Brussels Friday, Zapatero insisted he was pulling Spanish troops out of Kosovo because security had improved and Madrid's role made no sense as it did not recognize the territory.

"A year ago, Kosovo unilaterally declared independence, and as is well known, Spain did not recognize this," he told reporters at an EU summit in Brussels.

"For this reason, our role in this scenario lost some of its sense, especially once stability in the zone improved," he said.

1 posted on 03/20/2009 12:17:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Remember the impeached ex president clinton, had said at the start of this mess over there.. our troops would be there for one year.. and how many years now..15? maybe I cannot remember...


2 posted on 03/20/2009 12:20:16 PM PDT by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I kinda have to side with Spain on this issue.


3 posted on 03/20/2009 12:21:06 PM PDT by Slapshot68
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The United States is issuing unusually strong criticism of NATO ally Spain ...

Yes, at the same time it is pleading with Iran for a new dialog, and a new commitment towards...Iran.

Who is our president again? Oh that's right. - hussein

4 posted on 03/20/2009 12:23:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

“Who is our president again? Oh that’s right. - hussein “

Yup, the worthy successor to Jorge “TROP” Bush, the best friend the Mohammedan Saudi royals ever had! :)


5 posted on 03/20/2009 12:27:30 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Perhaps, but Bush never bombed the Christians and fought for the Muslims. - In Serbia.

That TROP nonsense was appalling to me, as well.
So was Amnesty and the expansion of government programs.

George was a mixed bag. - What can I say...
Thank you for your post.


6 posted on 03/20/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

“- In Serbia.”

Right...in Serbia.


7 posted on 03/20/2009 12:40:23 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

When did Bush ever bomb Christians?


8 posted on 03/20/2009 12:55:16 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“When did Bush ever bomb Christians?”

His Mohammedan buddies have from Kosovo to the Iran/Iraq border, and under the protection of the American military Bush was CinC of.


9 posted on 03/20/2009 1:02:36 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Bullshit!

Bush did more to fight islamofascism than Serbia's sorry ass ever did.

Serbia is allies with the ayatollahs! Just another sorry-ass bunch of Eurotrash dhimmis!

10 posted on 03/20/2009 1:09:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Slapshot68

Why was the Spanish military there in the first place? To pick up women on the other end of the Med? They have perfectly fine bases near Cadiz, Torrejon and Zaragosa to go back to. Zapatero is correct.


11 posted on 03/20/2009 1:12:03 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Tailgunner Joe; joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; ...

“Bush did more to fight islamofascism than Serbia’s sorry ass ever did.”

That’s simply not true, though your well established reputation as a cheerleader for Albanian Mohammedan butcher jihadis is well established so we’ll all just take your intemperate comment whence it comes and not expect you to recognize the truth. George Bush did more for Mohammedanism’s expansion than any president in American history. His legacy, aside from the mess here at home, is the smoking ruins of Eastern Christian communities from the Adriatic to the Iran/Iraq border.


12 posted on 03/20/2009 1:18:43 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
You mean Christians like Tariq Aziz?

Why is it exactly some so-called "Christians" got along so well with that butcher, Saddam Hussein?

13 posted on 03/20/2009 1:21:49 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Clinton stuck his nose in that mess and made it worse. Serbians are Christian Orthodox. Albanians are Muslims. After Clinton stuck his nose in, hundreds of Churches were destroyed in Kosovo.


14 posted on 03/20/2009 1:22:49 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Yes, and cozying up to the Saudi’s who financed 911 was one of his greatest achievements.


15 posted on 03/20/2009 1:25:35 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: BobS

If they are so Christian then why did they all follow that Godless communist Milosevic?


16 posted on 03/20/2009 1:27:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: bill1952

But he did recognize Kosovo which legitimized the aspirations of Albanian thuggery as well as Saudi aspirations for expanding islam by building mosques there.


17 posted on 03/20/2009 1:29:04 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They didn’t, they wanted him out of office at the behest of the population as early as 97’.


18 posted on 03/20/2009 1:30:33 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

You want what Al-Qaeda wants, for the Saudis to be overthrown and somebody worse to take over.


19 posted on 03/20/2009 1:31:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They didn’t.

So why are you following the New Messiah, 0bama?


20 posted on 03/20/2009 1:31:14 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Kolokotronis

You have a great point. Russia was always an Orthodox country. And it’s not happy with what it sees. The Serbian episode was what made V. Putin a savior. Russians do not take any prisoners.


21 posted on 03/20/2009 1:32:08 PM PDT by BobS
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To: JoanneSD

and how many years now..15

by Christmas 1999, I know this as my son was sent there Feb 2000


22 posted on 03/20/2009 1:32:26 PM PDT by boxerblues (Party like its 1773)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Your credentials as a mind-reader are non-existent, yet you laughably claim to be able to discern what other people want.

What a joke!


23 posted on 03/20/2009 1:33:32 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Why is it exactly some so-called “Christians” got along so well with that butcher, Saddam Hussein?”

I suspect its because he, unlike Bush’s beloved Mohammedan allies, didn’t make it a practice to butcher them as a group for their religion. Frankly, in Eastern Christian communities out there, Bush is loathed as the destroyer of their ancient culture.


24 posted on 03/20/2009 1:34:37 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Al-Qaeda wanted an Islamic base and Europe and Clinton/Jorge gave it to them.


25 posted on 03/20/2009 1:34:39 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

base and = base in


26 posted on 03/20/2009 1:35:28 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: BobS
Putin is a coward and a traitor to his own people. Crazy Yeltsin sent Russian troops to Kosovo, but craven Putin pulled them out and and refuses to send any back! Russia's naive Serb “brothers” wait in vain for their Muscovite “savior!” HA! He is too busy plundering Christian Georgia! Putin unleashed Chechen jihadists under his command to exterminate and ethnically cleanse thousands of Orthodox Christians in Georgia just months ago.
27 posted on 03/20/2009 1:40:22 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Kolokotronis
His legacy, aside from the mess here at home, is the smoking ruins of Eastern Christian communities from the Adriatic to the Iran/Iraq border.

Their mistake was not to convert to Judaism...
28 posted on 03/20/2009 1:41:05 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Putin is a coward and a traitor to his own people. "

While Putin was flushing out the Sakashvilli puppet, Jorge sat next to Puty at the Beijing games watching Georgia unfold, bravery indeed. NATO sells out Georgia and you blame the Russians.

29 posted on 03/20/2009 1:45:19 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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His legacy, aside from the mess here at home, is the smoking ruins of Eastern Christian communities from the Adriatic to the Iran/Iraq border.

Sorry, but that is garbage. I suspect that you know it and I suspect that you have a different agenda here.

bush kicked islam ass in Afghanistan and in Iraq.
We fought the AQ in both places, stood them up, shot them down, and sent the rest to Gitmo.

You can argue about the rest, but Bush was radical islam’s unforeseen nightmare.

Don't bother to respond because I'm not reading anything further from you.
Just accept that we disagree and then go somewhere else.

30 posted on 03/20/2009 1:51:36 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Kolokotronis
So in other words, they submitted to the barbaric, Stalinist rule of the mohammedan animal Saddam Hussein, because their act of dhimmitude bought them personal protection.

What has it gotten them now?

31 posted on 03/20/2009 1:52:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Milosevic may have been a socialist. And he was not God-less. He was doing what his people wanted him to do, which was keeping them safe from muslims. Muslims succesfully created the illusion of mass graves. So they could portray themselves as being targeted. That's not the reality.

What happened was you bought into the false propaganda that was created by muslims years ago. They know how to deal with people like you.

32 posted on 03/20/2009 1:54:00 PM PDT by BobS
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To: montyspython
NATO never made Georgia any promises.

Bush came home and ordered a guided missile destroyer to the Black Sea. For some reason, the Russians decided to break off their attack and pulled back, which was fortunate, for them.

33 posted on 03/20/2009 1:55:32 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: montyspython; Tailgunner Joe
Jorge sat next to Puty at the Beijing games watching Georgia unfold, bravery indeed

Bravery?? you sound like a child.
What brave thing did you expect him to do?
Punch the little creep out?

Hey, its easy to shout "bravery" to someone when they are 4,000 miles away, but perhaps you believe that our fine men should have gone into yet another 3rd world hellhole to save that part of the world from itself again.

Putin is a cowardly little twit - Let him invade some country that has a organized army of more than say, a few hundred men. - Like Afganistan for example - oh, that's right - already got his ass kicked out of there by the tribes.

34 posted on 03/20/2009 1:58:43 PM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: BobS

Tell that to the Christian Croats who didn’t want to live under Milosevic’s communist rule.


35 posted on 03/20/2009 1:59:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"NATO never made Georgia any promises."

It never does nor does it keep them, and with all the hyperbole around NATO protection I guess Georgia suddenly decided to attack a superior force because they had nothing better to do.

While Jorge was busy looking for Putin's soul in his eyes, the rest of us knew better. Sakashvilli drank NATO kool-aid and found out it actually tasted like sour milk.

36 posted on 03/20/2009 2:02:21 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

To remove Saddam is a one thing and establish democracy the second. The latter move is radically anti-Christian, you cannot argue here, this is obvious.


37 posted on 03/20/2009 2:06:45 PM PDT by Lukasz
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To: montyspython

The Georgians only attacked after they had intelligence that the Russian invasion was already underway. Satanic Nazi Russia planned this genocidal barbarity against Georgia for a long time.


38 posted on 03/20/2009 2:09:50 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: bill1952
"Bravery?? you sound like a child. What brave thing did you expect him to do? Punch the little creep out?"

Children have a greater propensity for honesty so lets be honest about it. He could have made a stronger stance on Georgia, he didn't.

Putin was snickering at the West knowing full well NATO would do nothing.

"Like Afganistan for example - oh, that's right - already got his ass kicked out of there by the tribes."

Are you sure of your time lines here? I am pretty confident that Putin was not running the Soviet Union at this time, with that said, they did get their asses handed to them... with our support of course but then we messed it up by allowing the Taliban to fester and give birth to Al-Qaeda. We need to follow through better next time.

39 posted on 03/20/2009 2:11:10 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Try again. They wanted to be indepedent and just live next to Serbia. It’s a perfect desription of a fault-line war. Christian, Orthodox and muslim fault lines exist right there. FDR and Stalin created boundaries for it a long time ago. Then Clinton goes in, dipping low.


40 posted on 03/20/2009 2:13:49 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Uh huh, and Sakashvilli took the bait, now he has nothing. If NATO was providing intel and knew of this as you claim then why was NATO ilprepared and why did it not accelerate its efforts to include Georgia into NATO?

The people of Georgia lost out big time.

41 posted on 03/20/2009 2:15:36 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So they opted to live under Tudjman’s communist rule, great.


42 posted on 03/20/2009 2:17:35 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Spain did the right thing. The U.S. has been wrong every step of the way in “Kosovo.”


43 posted on 03/20/2009 2:25:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: montyspython
Russia occupied Abkhazia and South Ossetia before and now they still occupy them, so Georgia hasn't really lost much while Russia's true evil face has been shown to the world. The Russian army has been exposed as conscripted prostitutes desperate to escape and defect to Georgia just to get a Big Mac.
44 posted on 03/20/2009 2:25:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: BobS

Let’s not lose sight of Bosnia which is nothing more than a microcosm of the failed Yugoslavia experiment. Attempting to recreate it at a smaller scale is proving just as disastrous as the original considering neither the Croats or the Serbs want to live under muslim rule and want to see Bosnia dissolved.


45 posted on 03/20/2009 2:26:16 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Kolokotronis
It's hard for a non eastern Christian who has no had to survive in dhimmitude to understand—let me try to explain a bit...

Christians “do not get along” with Muslims-—they have fought many many wars against them...rather they co-exist and have for 1300 + years except when Muslims get agitated and when powerful Christian states fall such as Byzantium to the the Muzzie Turks in the years leading to 1453 unleashing even more hell for 500 plus years.

Anything that upsets the status quo (Iraq) leads to reprisals and sometimes genocides—there have been quite a few. Christians in the East have had NO HELP OR SUPPORT FROM THE WEST that has sold them down the river many times as we still do.

The West has decided a long time ago to put their eggs in the basket of finance and business-—esp the international kind, sacrificing morality and Christians everywhere in the process to God Mammon.

46 posted on 03/20/2009 2:30:50 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: Tailgunner Joe

How has Georgia not lost much? Are you saying that Russia’s invasion didn’t do harm to Georgians? Drinking early this afternoon or are you still recovering from the St. Partick’s day celebrations?


47 posted on 03/20/2009 2:34:10 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: montyspython

I blame Russia for the harm done to Georgia while you blame Georgia, America and Nato.


48 posted on 03/20/2009 2:40:39 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: montyspython
Slovenia has become it's own country. On the border of Austria. All those countries can do is agree to the fault line between them exists and just go on from there. That's the solution for their leaders. And the US military is STILL there picking up women and getting married.
49 posted on 03/20/2009 2:42:17 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS
"And the US military is STILL there picking up women and getting married."

That's because they're crazy! :-D

50 posted on 03/20/2009 2:53:06 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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