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Gates readies big cuts in weapons (Thanks to Obama gutting our military)
Boston Globe ^ | March 17, 2009 | Bryan Bender

Posted on 03/16/2009 10:15:25 PM PDT by utahson

Two defense officials who were not authorized to speak publicly said Gates will announce up to a half-dozen major weapons cancellations later this month. Candidates include a new Navy destroyer, the Air Force's F-22 fighter jet, and Army ground-combat vehicles, the offi cials said.

More cuts are planned for later this year after a review that could lead to reductions in programs such as aircraft carriers and nuclear arms, the officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; clark; elections; militarycuts; obama; secdefclark; westleyclark
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Bring us to our knees by weakening our military. Our enemies are rejoicing.
1 posted on 03/16/2009 10:15:25 PM PDT by utahson
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To: utahson

Prepare to die, New york... How many times have they targeted you?


2 posted on 03/16/2009 10:17:19 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: utahson

We need the money to buy people houses.


3 posted on 03/16/2009 10:17:39 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: utahson

The F-22 will actually save money if it is cut. It is a massive mis-allocation of tax monies.

Why won’t he cut the Osprey completely as well?


4 posted on 03/16/2009 10:17:43 PM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: utahson

Why does the military need money? Are we at war or something?
/Sarcasm


5 posted on 03/16/2009 10:20:34 PM PDT by jprobst (Who is John Galt?)
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To: utahson
And convince everyone to not enlist by refusing to treat war wounds once the member returns to CONUS!

A weak military and a weak US are NOT accidents or outgrowths of the “liberal” "pay for a welfare state for everyone" Obama program.

Obama wants the end of the US. How many more clues do we need?

6 posted on 03/16/2009 10:21:18 PM PDT by MindBender26 (The Hellfire Missile is one of the wonderful ways God shows us he loves American Soldiers & Marines)
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To: utahson

Here comes Carter II.


7 posted on 03/16/2009 10:25:45 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
PS: Canceling programs which, in addition to providing for the national defense, actually provide REAL high paying jobs for American workers, instead of government make-work jobs that produce NOTHING of value.
8 posted on 03/16/2009 10:28:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: utahson

IMHO SECDEF Gates won’t be there for long. Clark is going to take over in 2010, as promised by Obama.


9 posted on 03/16/2009 10:29:35 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: utahson

He said he would do it, why should anybody be surprised:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb6EE3C7uWE

The best advice is to learn how to speak Russian and Chinese.


10 posted on 03/16/2009 10:30:12 PM PDT by waus (FUBO UFCMF)
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To: utahson

right out of the dim playbook. gut the military


11 posted on 03/16/2009 10:31:12 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: waus

why?


12 posted on 03/16/2009 10:33:00 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I would rather have Christian Carter and go through 22% mortgage rates than Hitler Obama h*ll bent on destroying my childrens America.

Someone naively trying to do good I could handle more than oBamas evil.


13 posted on 03/16/2009 10:35:52 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (We don't see victims. We don't see people we want to exploit. What we see is potential,Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Thunder90

Weasley? OMG if it’s him...


14 posted on 03/16/2009 10:39:07 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Hitler II


15 posted on 03/16/2009 10:39:08 PM PDT by Gator113 (For America to Survive, Obama Must Fail..... Obama=Failure in Chief with the Audacity of Dope.....)
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To: OafOfOffice

Do they not remember 9-11? The world is not a peaceful place without the power of US military. We’ll loose NYC for sure.


16 posted on 03/16/2009 10:40:33 PM PDT by voveo
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To: utahson

I hope all those military types and retirees who voted for this trash are happy that they’re fellow soldiers will be less protected and defended.......


17 posted on 03/16/2009 10:44:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Thunder90

Clark’s an idiot.


18 posted on 03/16/2009 10:45:44 PM PDT by pankot
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To: utahson

I wonder which Army vehicles he’s looking at?


19 posted on 03/16/2009 10:55:59 PM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Islamofanatics" yet?)
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To: utahson
Sounds like 0’s gang ran this idea by Putin, Ahmanutjob, the Taliban and China before making their decision.
20 posted on 03/16/2009 11:01:43 PM PDT by 444Flyer (Don't beLIEve Obama.............................Never give up, never give in, never give out!)
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To: utahson
Weakness breeds aggression.

Obama will have us in a war before he is through.

I am beginning to go from loathing to hatred of our so called president.

21 posted on 03/16/2009 11:08:20 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRoA)
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To: utahson
20 YEARS. In just 20 short years the Democratic and Republican Parties both have all but destroyed what was the finest and most ready military in the world. Their Loathing for the Reagan Defense Doctrines has left us desolate defense wise. What will it take to wake the Sheep us so they realize WOLVES come in two suits Democratic and Republican. Neither one has cared about our national defense as long as their own Pack got their cut of the spoil.
22 posted on 03/16/2009 11:16:31 PM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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To: utahson
The US and coalition sacrificed much and severely weakened al Qaeda.

Obama is strengthening al Qaeda.

23 posted on 03/16/2009 11:19:25 PM PDT by Allegra ( Never argue with an idiot. They bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: MindBender26

“And convince everyone to not enlist by refusing to treat war wounds once the member returns to CONUS!”

That’s OK....
remember that there are several in the administration that REALLY want to re-institute the draft.

The libs/demos don’t want freedom of choice - like to join up on your own cause you are patriotic or want to get out of the ghetto.

They want to mandate service in the way that they imagine to be most productive. Guess that means a homeland security force to check homes for “illegal” guns or literature.

It will only take a couple of years for these idiots to discourage all voluntary patriotism and instill manditory servitude.

Prepare for all ROTC programs to be converted to National Volunteer Militia Corps or some such — complete with his unworthness’s portrait on the wall.


24 posted on 03/16/2009 11:22:29 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: utahson
The ONE constitutional duty M0ron has to perform and he turns-up his nose at it.

Carter Lite is going full speed for Carter the Imbecile.

25 posted on 03/16/2009 11:25:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Yes, Gorbachev is better than Obama. At least Gorbachev admitted he was a Communist)
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To: utahson

Obama is sticking to his ‘real’ agenda — and this is only the beginning.


26 posted on 03/16/2009 11:42:20 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: 1010RD
Why won’t he cut the Osprey

Because the Osprey has Killed over 30 Marines and is a stupidly unstable platform. Obama wants the US military humbled and junk like the V-22 will do just that.

27 posted on 03/16/2009 11:48:57 PM PDT by ME-262 (Stick it to the Man! - Down with Obama!)
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To: bossmechanic

“The libs/demos don’t want freedom of choice - like to join up on your own cause you are patriotic or want to get out of the ghetto.”

they want everyone to be the same. Everyone will be socialized to be like one person, one mind, as part of their national service.


28 posted on 03/17/2009 12:02:28 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Little Pig
I wonder which Army vehicles he’s looking at?

Only the ones with wings, rotors, tracks, or wheels.

29 posted on 03/17/2009 12:03:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: libh8er

We need the money to buy people houses. We need the money buy Wind turbines, ACORN, bridges to nowhere and health Care for everyone!


30 posted on 03/17/2009 12:07:02 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: MindBender26

Obama wants the end of the US. How many more clues do we need?
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I need none and if anyone can’t see that a coup d’etat is taking place, then they need to take the blinders off.


31 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:17 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Here comes Carter II.
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Do you seriously believe this is Carter II or is just wishful thinking on your part?


32 posted on 03/17/2009 12:12:57 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: OafOfOffice

I would rather have Christian Carter and go through 22% mortgage rates than Hitler Obama h*ll bent on destroying my childrens America.
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AMEN. Many of our friends are already making plans to get out. None of us will stay and live under Communism.


33 posted on 03/17/2009 12:14:17 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Candor7

I am beginning to go from loathing to hatred of our so called president
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I passed that stage a month ago. I just want out of here and as far away from him as I can get. I’m sure that makes him very happy that his dissenters are out of here, less he has to deal with when they eventually turn on DC.


34 posted on 03/17/2009 12:16:07 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: 1010RD

//cut the Osprey completely as well//

He might, but I hope they save the F-35, we really need that airplane’s capability IMO.


35 posted on 03/17/2009 12:23:09 AM PDT by valkyry1
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To: Candor7
"Weakness breeds aggression.

Obama will have us in a war before he is through.

I am beginning to go from loathing to hatred of our so called president."

I wonder if Obama will fight when real danger comes or he will welcome our enemies with open arms and submit. He will couch it as diplomacy and dialogue to reach out to Iran, Venezuela, Russia, China, etc., but I suspect he will not fight even if NYC or another major US city is destroyed.

36 posted on 03/17/2009 2:10:17 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: tina07

I guess that’s better than Ramsey.


37 posted on 03/17/2009 2:28:30 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: 1010RD
Sounds like my wife talking. “Honey, I actually saved money on this F-22, it was buy 2 and get one free, so I really saved 90 million dollars.”

The real tragedy is the money that went to ACORN would build an aircraft carrier.

38 posted on 03/17/2009 2:40:41 AM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: jprobst

“Why does the military need money? Are we at war or something?”
* * * * * *

Naah, that jihad thingy is so 2001. Let’s just sing Kumbaya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YE594zlUns


39 posted on 03/17/2009 2:45:50 AM PDT by Canedawg (Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press.)
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To: 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ...

Ping


40 posted on 03/17/2009 3:18:51 AM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: utahson

C’mon, get in the spirit!

Nancy Pelosi’s plane costs money to maintain, operate, and refuel....So does Air Force One, flying the perpetual campaign route—Look at this week: DC to LA for....Jay Leno-that’s vital to national security.

And ACORN neeeds to ramp up for the 2010 elections.

And there’s nothing wrong with urban schools that more billions of dollars won’t fix, right? They’ll be pumping out Rhodes Scholars any day now.......


41 posted on 03/17/2009 3:21:14 AM PDT by Mac from Cleveland (How to make a small fortune in the Obama era--first, start off with a big fortune....)
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To: mojitojoe

Now we can feel what liberals went through the last eight years...not fun. We have a long wait until we are happy with a President again. Of course if liberals can survive, we can too.


42 posted on 03/17/2009 3:43:29 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: jprobst
Why does the military need money?

To pay for diversity training, of course.

43 posted on 03/17/2009 3:48:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey, Obama! Where's my check?)
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To: utahson

Bump


44 posted on 03/17/2009 3:49:19 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: ME-262

Do you even have a clue how many Marines the CH-46 killed in it’s first five years of operations?

Or for that matter how many Ospreys we have lost due to crashes in Iraq since the Osprey became operational (as opposed to still in the development stage)

The early record of the CH46 is that it was a Marine Killer and a death trap that the Osprey has not even come close to matching.

Since those, what was it, four testing accidents with a total of thirty Marines killed almost seven years ago, the osprey has had no accidents at all and a near prefect combat record. Quite an amazing feat for an aircraft that is so revolutionary and ahead of it’s time it threatens to change the whole concept of air mobility.


45 posted on 03/17/2009 4:07:11 AM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: OafOfOffice

Amen


46 posted on 03/17/2009 4:19:05 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: utahson
Defense Secretary Robert Gates's decisions will be guided by what he learns while spending time with troops.

BS. More of that populist "listening tour" mentality. Forgive me, but I don't want some wiggy, pro-Obama E3 on the mess decks changing our national defense posture.
47 posted on 03/17/2009 4:23:25 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: utahson

The Kenyan Clown intends to destroy our military.


48 posted on 03/17/2009 4:41:17 AM PDT by snowsislander (NRA -- join today! 1-877-NRA-2000)
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To: napscoordinator
Now we can feel what liberals went through the last eight years...not fun. We have a long wait until we are happy with a President again. Of course if liberals can survive, we can too.

Can't compare this to the past eight years. The pain we went through with Clinton MIGHT be similar to what libs went through with Bush...maybe. Most of the libs reaction to Bush was completely manufactured hate...not real hate. They hated a man that was evil, hateful, warmongering...a strawman, because that is not who Bush is.

In this case, Obama is hell bent on destroying this country has it is to create a leftist utopia. It is not debatable. I am disgusted but mostly in the American electorate's ignorance. I am hoping enough people figure it out to create significant change in the makeup of the House in 2010 to slow the damage. Otherwise, 4-8 years of this will destroy it and be irreversible.

49 posted on 03/17/2009 4:49:26 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: utahson

“Bring us to our knees by weakening our military.”

This coupled with ending VA care of wounded vets corroborates the treason.


50 posted on 03/17/2009 4:51:07 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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