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CIA report: Israel will fall in 20 years
Press TV ^ | 13 Mar 2009 | Press TV

Posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup

A study conducted by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has cast doubt over Israel's survival beyond the next 20 years.

The CIA report predicts "an inexorable movement away from a two-state to a one-state solution, as the most viable model based on democratic principles of full equality that sheds the looming specter of colonial Apartheid while allowing for the return of the 1947/1948 and 1967 refugees. The latter being the precondition for sustainable peace in the region."

The study, which has been made available only to a certain number of individuals, further forecasts the return of all Palestinian refugees to the occupied territories, and the exodus of two million Israeli - who would move to the US in the next fifteen years.

"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said in an interview with Press TV on Friday, adding that those who do not have American or western passport, have already applied for them.

"So I think the handwriting at least among the public in Israel is on the wall...[which] suggests history will reject the colonial enterprise sooner or later," Lamb stressed.

He said CIA, in its report, alludes to the unexpectedly quick fall of the apartheid government in South Africa and recalls the disintegration of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s, suggesting the end to the dream of an 'Israeli land' would happen 'way sooner' than later.

The study further predicts the return of over one and a half million Israelis to Russia and other parts of Europe, and denotes a decline in Israeli births whereas a rise in the Palestinian population.

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public -- which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv's measures in the last 25 years -- may 'not take it anymore'.

Some members of the US Senate Intelligence Committee have been informed of the report.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: badsource; bho44; bhomiddleeast; cia; iran; iranisanpropaganda; islamicpresstv; israel; obama; presstviran; presstvisiranian; propaganda; wot
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1 posted on 03/15/2009 2:05:25 PM PDT by Squidpup
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To: Squidpup
Not If can do anything about it -

I can still carry a rifle if needed.

2 posted on 03/15/2009 2:08:55 PM PDT by Chinstrap61a
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To: Squidpup

The world has predicting the demise of Israel for about 2000 years now.


3 posted on 03/15/2009 2:09:40 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Squidpup
Press TV is an outlet of the ISLAMIC REPUBLIC IRAN.

Just saying, since Press TV is often cited at FR. Many Freepers are unaware, because of the unsuspicous name of this outlet.

4 posted on 03/15/2009 2:09:40 PM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "In Alaska we eat therefore we hunt.")
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To: Squidpup

CIA catches up with conventional wisdom....


5 posted on 03/15/2009 2:09:45 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Squidpup

History will not look kindly on an America that sits idly by as Israel is overrun by animals.


6 posted on 03/15/2009 2:09:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric political system in religious drag.)
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To: Squidpup

Given CIA’s recent inability to get anything right (going back the Bay of Pigs and even the fall of the Soviet empire), I wouldn’t put too much stock in whatever alleged report some analyst may or may not have written.


7 posted on 03/15/2009 2:10:14 PM PDT by Big_Monkey
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To: Squidpup
"There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California," International lawyer Franklin Lamb said ..."
 
Good lawyers cost good money cuz they speak so well bout stuff that they ain't got much knowlwedge of.

8 posted on 03/15/2009 2:11:02 PM PDT by Radix (22;22 EST, 13 Feb 2009, C-Span2, Silent wait for Sen to come bury USA after burying his Mom)
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To: Squidpup
There is little doubt that the US State Dept has wanted the extermination of Israel and then American Jews.

That the CIA is on board, is more than troubling.

9 posted on 03/15/2009 2:11:13 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Squidpup

Real Headline: Iranian mouthpiece finds CIA memo helpful to its cause


10 posted on 03/15/2009 2:11:33 PM PDT by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: Squidpup

The thing I love about Israeli Jews is their guts and determination, and devotion to the God of Israel.

That is precisely what kept them together as a group the past 5,000 years.

They are the touchstone of human history.

Any thought of Israel getting attacked by anyone should cause Christians to rush to their defense.


11 posted on 03/15/2009 2:11:37 PM PDT by Edit35 (.)
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To: Squidpup
Wishful thinking by the RDDB Career Gobermint loafers who've become of late Antisemitic Obammites.
12 posted on 03/15/2009 2:11:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Squidpup

Israeli vs. arab birth rates notwithstanding; spurious comparisons with S. African apartheid notwithstanding; world pressure notwithstanding; arab/muslim antipathy notwithstanding; new American administration ambivalence vis a vis Israel notwithstanding — Israel is here to stay.

The last verse of the Prophet Amos says it all: “When I have Israel forth from the nations where I scattered them, they shall plant, harvest and enjoy the fruits of their labors; I shall plant them in their land and they’ll never be uprooted again.” Anyone who wants to quibble with that is quibbling with the God of the universe and of Heaven itself. I am more sure of that than I am of my own life. I lost faith in the CIA a long time ago.


13 posted on 03/15/2009 2:12:49 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Squidpup

There would be a bunch of nuked Arab capitals before that happened.


14 posted on 03/15/2009 2:13:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Squidpup

The muslims have done such a great job of governing themselves in the Gaza strip.

They are almost as good at self rule as Robert Mugabe and the racists in Detroit.

Now the Islam worshipping Jew Haters in this administration will try to force Israel to make more and more concessions until there is nothing left to give.


15 posted on 03/15/2009 2:14:40 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Jacquerie

Neither will God.

PS Colonial apartheid? You have to be freaking kidding me.


16 posted on 03/15/2009 2:14:52 PM PDT by piytar (Obama = Mugabe wannabe. Wake up America.)
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To: dfwgator

The Samson Option......I’m not sure the Israeli’s have the political will to use it anymore....


17 posted on 03/15/2009 2:15:44 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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To: Squidpup

Franklin Lamb will be off to the slaughter before Israel lays down her arms and says, “Sure, take it.” And, as difficult as it might be, we need to be at her side doing what we can to stop the Islamic machine. Talk about colonialism, Sharia law would be the most ugly of world domination. And they have made it a public goal, just like Hitler did.


18 posted on 03/15/2009 2:15:59 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: dfwgator

You got it. In case Jerusalem gets hit, who says that Israel wouldn’t turn the Middle east into the biggest glass factory on the planet?


19 posted on 03/15/2009 2:16:06 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Squidpup

If this report is true, then they forgot to factor in the God of Israel.

But the world, under the Antichrist when he arises, will make the attempt to destroy Israel. They will regret it ... forever.

Be forewarned, those is islam: Satan has deceived you. Abandon it, for your own sake.


Revelation 16:13-14 (King James Version)

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Zechariah 14:1-5 (King James Version)

1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.


20 posted on 03/15/2009 2:16:14 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Squidpup
Heck, I think Calif. could fall before Israel.
21 posted on 03/15/2009 2:17:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: Squidpup

22 posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Squidpup

Political ideology never makes a good foundation for rational, objective analysis. The article is a great example of the principle.


23 posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:17 PM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: Squidpup
I wouldn't read much into this study. Many supposedly knowledgeable people have been forecasting the imminent collapse of Israel since 1947. Also, some of the information in this report, e.g. relative jewish decline due to lower birth rates, is no longer valid. I also don't see Israel EVER allowing a right of return to ANY Arabs or agreeing for form a single state with Gaza and the West Bank.

However, I do agree that there is growing hatred of Israel in some quarters of many Western Christian (and post-Christian) democracies and that many Jews living in these countries are more lukewarm in their support than they were 20 or 30 years ago.

24 posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:18 PM PDT by LuxAerterna
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To: Migraine

I was going to quote Amos 9:15 too

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos%209:15;&version=9;


25 posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:26 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: Squidpup

I’d like to see some MSM drone ask Pinetta about this alleged CIA study....


26 posted on 03/15/2009 2:18:51 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Squidpup

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public — which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv’s measures in the last 25 years — may ‘not take it anymore’.

nonsense. Lamb and his friends may believe this but few others. Israel as the monster and the terrorists as victims. Utter nonsense!!!!
Lamb should be glad I’m not a mover and shaker of Israel as I’d make one thing clear to the world. If Israel is forced by the rest of the world to commit suicide Israel will take the Arab world with it. A promise, not a threat. It should be evident to any logically thinking person that rabid Arab hatred is now and has always been the problem in the region and little else.


27 posted on 03/15/2009 2:21:38 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Squidpup

The USA will go away before Israel, and it may be at the hands of those who they say Israel will be destroyed by.


28 posted on 03/15/2009 2:22:05 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: Nachum
The world has predicting the demise of Israel for about 2000 years now.

And, for 1,813 of those 2,000 years, from the end of the Bar Kochba Revolt to 1948, Israel was wiped off the map as a geographic nation.

Israel cannot take anything for granted or get complacent with an idea that Israel is immune from being wiped off the map ...... yet again.

29 posted on 03/15/2009 2:23:05 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Squidpup

Lamb said given the Israeli conduct toward the Palestinians and the Gaza strip in particular, the American public — which has been voicing its protest against Tel Aviv’s measures in the last 25 years — may ‘not take it anymore’.


What about the conduct of the Arabs toward the Jews? Is that not relevant? Seems that Muslims get an automatic pass on their behavior.


30 posted on 03/15/2009 2:23:11 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Squidpup
Not to worry. It's just the CIA. They haven't gotten it right since christ was a corporal.
31 posted on 03/15/2009 2:23:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Radix

“There is over 500,000 Israelis with American passports and more than 300,000 living in the area of just California,” International lawyer Franklin Lamb said ...”

Good lawyers cost good money cuz they speak so well bout stuff that they ain’t got much knowlwedge of.
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LOL LOL. It sounds like that speech that zr0 wrote before his peons corrected it.


32 posted on 03/15/2009 2:25:46 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( Idiots elected a Marxist ideologue with narcissistic personality disorder & America is dying.)
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To: Squidpup

I love it when The Company calls God clueless.

It should shorten THEIR survival period considerably.

And a well earned demise for decades of traitorousness it will likely be, too.


33 posted on 03/15/2009 2:26:37 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Jacquerie

INDEED

ALMIGHTY GOD’S PROMISE TO ABRAHAM . . . TO BLESS THOSE WHO BLESSED HIM AND HIS SEED

AND TO CURSE THOSE WHO CURSED THEM . . .

STILL STANDS VERY OPERATIVELY.

GOD IS VERY FAITHFUL TO HIS PROMISES—ALL OF THEM—BUT PARTICULARLY THOSE TO HIS

!!!!!!!FRIEND!!!!!!!

BUDDY ABRAHAM.


34 posted on 03/15/2009 2:28:05 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Squidpup
What do the ultimate authorities have to say about that?


35 posted on 03/15/2009 2:29:46 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Squidpup

Won’t happen.


36 posted on 03/15/2009 2:30:30 PM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Squidpup

This analysis assumes Israel will allow the right of return to go through. If this happens Israel will cease to exist.

The right of return allows for an palestinian or their ancestors to go back to Israel which would make Israel a majority mooselimb country.
So hey Israel, ball is in your court, ya gonna fight or perish?


37 posted on 03/15/2009 2:32:01 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: Squidpup

Hmmm...


38 posted on 03/15/2009 2:34:10 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: Nachum

The CIA obviously hasn’t read the Bible and God’s promise to Israel. Israel will NEVER be defeated until the very end of time and when they are overwhelmed by the hoards of muslims, Jesus Christ himself will come down and deliver them. I know to the CIA and the natural world, this doesn’t seem possible. There are over a Billion muslims surrounding Israel’s tiny nation but GOD intervenes on behalf of His people to whom He promised that land. It will NEVER be the property of Palestine unless the Jews voluntarily give them some of it. This is NOT God’s plan. This land was given to the Jews. It is God’s plan for it to remain with the Jews.


39 posted on 03/15/2009 2:34:12 PM PDT by rtbwood
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To: Revolting cat!
If you can do photoshop, we can do a faint image of The ObamessiahTM's face in that and start an internet legend...

Cheers!

40 posted on 03/15/2009 2:34:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SolidWood

Good to know


41 posted on 03/15/2009 2:35:02 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Revolting cat!
A picture is worth a thousand words...

POST OF THE DAY.

Cheers!

42 posted on 03/15/2009 2:35:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Great ideer, but I’m a photoshopper only when I buy a camera or supplies!


43 posted on 03/15/2009 2:36:03 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Revolting cat!
I've heard of platform shoes, but that's the first time I've ever seen anyone with platform hair.

Cheers!

44 posted on 03/15/2009 2:36:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Squidpup

Great. Another 2,000,000 diehard liberal immigrant voters.


45 posted on 03/15/2009 2:37:57 PM PDT by behzinlea
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To: Squidpup
LOL! IRANS Press TV gets a CIA report stating that Israel won't last long. No other press service has it..

STINK????
46 posted on 03/15/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: Big_Monkey

Bingo. That says it for me.


47 posted on 03/15/2009 2:39:53 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Obama: Carter's only chance to avoid going down in history as the worst U.S. president ever.)
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To: ScreamingFist

Bibi doesn’t look to me like a guy I’d mess with, were I an Arab. IMHO, he would pull the nuke trigger in an instant if it came down to it.


48 posted on 03/15/2009 2:39:59 PM PDT by Don Carlos (You can touch a nun once or twice, but don't get in the habit.)
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To: Squidpup

Who knows the future of Israel? God or the CIA


49 posted on 03/15/2009 2:41:32 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Polybius

“Israel was wiped off the map as a geographic nation”

True. And now they’re back; many regathered.

Jeremiah 31:10
“ Hear the word of the LORD, O nations, And declare it in the isles afar off, and say, ‘ He who scattered Israel will gather him, And keep him as a shepherd does his flock.’

Ezekiel 6:8
“Yet I will leave a remnant, so that you may have some who escape the sword among the nations, when you are scattered through the countries.

Zechariah 7:14
“But I scattered them with a whirlwind among all the nations which they had not known. Thus the land became desolate after them, so that no one passed through or returned; for they made the pleasant land desolate.”

To me, the rebirth of Israel is a sign that the times of the Gentiles is drawing to a close

Romans 11:25 (New King James Version)
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


50 posted on 03/15/2009 2:41:38 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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