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‘Fusion center’ data draws fire over assertions Politics, banners seen as suspect.
columbia tribune ^ | 03/14/09 | T.J. Greaney

Posted on 03/14/2009 5:48:43 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Tim Neal of Miller County was shocked recently when he heard a radio program about a strategic report compiled by state and federal law enforcement agencies to combat terrorism.

Titled “The Modern Militia Movement,” the report is dated Feb. 20 and designed to help police identify militia members or domestic terrorists. Red flags outlined in the document include political bumper stickers such as those for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul, talk of conspiracy theories such as the plan for a mega-highway from Canada to Mexico and possession of subversive literature.

But when Neal read the report, he couldn’t help but think it described him. A military veteran and a delegate to the 2008 Missouri Republican state convention, he didn’t appreciate being lumped in with groups like the Neo-Nazis.

“I was going down the list and thinking, ‘Check, that’s me,’ ” he said. “I’m a Ron Paul supporter, check. I talk about the North American union, check. I’ve got the ‘America: Freedom to Fascism’ video loaned out to somebody right now. So that means I’m a domestic terrorist? Because I’ve got a video about the Federal Reserve?”

Blogs and Web sites frequented by people interested in civil liberties issues have been overloaded in recent days with comments from angry readers who view the document as a precursor to an American KGB spying on U.S. citizens.

“The government is out of control, we are just trying to survive,” wrote one poster who identified himself as John Adams.

But state law enforcement officials said the report is being misinterpreted. Lt. John Hotz of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said the report was compiled by the Missouri Information Analysis Center based in Jefferson City and comes purely from publically available, trend data on militias.

Hotz said MIAC, which opened in 2005, is a “fusion center” that combines resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies. It was set up to collect local intelligence to better combat terrorism and other criminal activity, he said.

“All this is an educational thing,” Hotz said of the report. “Troopers have been shot by members of groups, so it’s our job to let law enforcement officers know what the trends are in the modern militia movement.”

The report’s most controversial passage states that militia “most commonly associate with third-party political groups” and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year.

Hotz said using those or similar factors to determine whether someone could be a terrorist is not profiling. He said people who display signs or bumper stickers from such groups are not in danger of harassment from police.

“It’s giving the makeup of militia members and their political beliefs,” Hotz said of the report. “It’s not saying that everybody who supports these candidates is involved in a militia. It’s not even saying that all militias are bad.”

Not everybody agrees. At a “Tea Party” to protest wasteful government spending Thursday in Flat Branch Park, several people displaying the Revolutionary War-replica “Don’t Tread On Me” flag were upset to learn the MIAC report lists the banner as a “militia symbol.”

“That’s insane,” said Doug Wendt looking at the MIAC document. “That is not a militia symbol. That is American history. This is historic. The only animosity” American colonists “ever directed with this was towards England.”

Roger Webb, president of the University of Missouri campus Libertarians, also took offense. “It’s absolutely obscene,” he said of the report. “It seems like they want to stifle political thought. There are a lot of third parties out there, and none of them express any violence. In fact, if you join the Libertarian Party, one of the things you sign in your membership application is that you don’t support violence as a means to any ends.”

Neal, who has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, said the next time he is pulled over by a police officer, he won’t know whether it’s because he was speeding or because of his political views.

“If a police officer is pulling me over with my family in the car and he sees a bumper sticker on my vehicle that has been specifically identified as one that an extremist would have in their vehicle, the guy is probably going to be pretty apprehensive and not thinking in a rational manner,” Neal said. “And this guy’s walking up to my vehicle with a gun.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 03/14/2009 5:48:43 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3
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The report’s most controversial passage states that militia “most commonly associate with third-party political groups” and support presidential candidates such as Ron Paul, former Constitutional Party candidate Chuck Baldwin and Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate last year.

Not everybody agrees. At a “Tea Party” to protest wasteful government spending Thursday in Flat Branch Park, several people displaying the Revolutionary War-replica “Don’t Tread On Me” flag were upset to learn the MIAC report lists the banner as a “militia symbol.”


2 posted on 03/14/2009 5:50:46 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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http://www.infowars.com/secret-state-police-report-ron-paul-bob-barr-chuck-baldwin-libertarians-are-terrorists/

more info here.

3 posted on 03/14/2009 5:55:01 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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4 posted on 03/14/2009 5:59:00 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Hm. Do militiamen “tend” to join the NRA?


5 posted on 03/14/2009 6:00:49 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: sionnsar

According to MIAC, opposition to world government, NAFTA, federalization of the states, and restrictive gun laws are a threat to the police. “The militia subscribes to an anti-government and NWO mindset, which creates a threat to law enforcement officers. They view the military, National Guard, and law enforcement as a force that will confiscate their firearms and place them in FEMA concentration camps,” the document claims in a section entitled “You are the Enemy.”


6 posted on 03/14/2009 6:06:21 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Bookmark
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7 posted on 03/14/2009 6:08:14 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: TornadoAlley3

I wonder if this report mentions actual domestic terrorism that has been carried out by leftist groups like Earth First and the ALF.


8 posted on 03/14/2009 6:09:01 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: TornadoAlley3

So, the implicit assumption from MIAC is that these things will occur, or be pushed to the point where armed reaction occurs?


9 posted on 03/14/2009 6:10:39 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Anything from alex jones is bullshit on a cracker.

Note the terrible cut and paste job here:

http://www.infowars.com/images/scan0019.jpg

Is that is a copy...how did the map magically get bigger and run over the bottom border?


10 posted on 03/14/2009 6:16:00 PM PDT by Crim
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To: sionnsar
>> Do militiamen “tend” to join the NRA? << No, they tend to join the Second Amendment Foundation. The NRA is too liberal for people who won't be happy until the Constitution is fully restored from exile.
11 posted on 03/14/2009 6:53:33 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat; LibreOuMort

Interesting.


12 posted on 03/14/2009 7:07:10 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Tax the rich" fails if the rich won't play)
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To: TornadoAlley3
The shameful aspect of this “intelligence” is that it misdirects LEO energy in unfruitful directions.

One caller to the local Columbia radio station remarked that most murderers and pedophiles who voted probably voted for either a Republican or Democrat. So, statistically speaking, a McCain or Obama bumper sticker is more meaningful than one this report identifies as radical.

(Speaking of statistics, anyone seen Driving While Black has an 80% probability of being an Obama voter, is that pertinent to the topic?)

I am going to write a nasty-gram to the head of the MO Hwy Patrol and suggest if they really wanted to break new ground, they could start collecting real data in the form of photos of the rear bumpers of all the perps from now on, and they could correlate that to whatever real crimes these real perps had done.

This would be a productive change from perpetuating culture stereotypes that sadly pervades some gung-ho people in “security”. Happily, it is a lot easier at the state level to persuade cooler heads to prevail. At the federal level, we get the thinking that lead to Ruby Ridge and Waco instead.

13 posted on 03/14/2009 7:07:24 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: theBuckwheat
Yeah its pretty funny they'll profile a bunch of white guys with a "Don't Tread on Me," but a bunch of muslims in head gear can board a plane unabated while granny is getting a flashlight and cold finger discount.
14 posted on 03/14/2009 7:42:23 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Repeat Offender
one more thing...... re-read the flier. Apparently militia members think LEOs and Feds live in poor housing...... deragatory MANOR..... they must live in gov't subsidized housing.... or sumthin'
15 posted on 03/14/2009 7:45:47 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Bookmark


16 posted on 03/14/2009 7:54:13 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: TornadoAlley3

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17 posted on 03/14/2009 7:56:53 PM PDT by usshadley (crying racism--the new "last refuge of the scoundrel")
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To: TornadoAlley3

Does this mean Freepers are on a list yet?


18 posted on 03/14/2009 8:06:13 PM PDT by enduserindy (I hope he proves us wrong. Really, I do.)
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To: Crim
Adobe files don't copy well. Here is a link to the original PDF file of the report.
19 posted on 03/14/2009 8:40:24 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer

Yeah I actually called TJ to confirm it..

Alex Jones is still full of crap though...


20 posted on 03/14/2009 8:52:25 PM PDT by Crim
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