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MSNBC Contributor and Former Dem Politico to Obama: Get It Together
NewsBusters ^ | March 4, 2009 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 03/04/2009 7:32:53 AM PST by Rufus2007

After the fifth consecutive down day for the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA), commentators from unexpected corners of the political spectrum are starting to scratch their heads over the Obama's administration economic policy responses.

Take, for example, former Rep. Harold Ford, Jr., D-Tenn., now a commentator for arguably the most politically left-of-center network, MSNBC. On the network's March 3 airing of "Hardball," Ford said it's time for the Obama administration to get its act together. He said the analogy President Barack Obama and his press secretary Robert Gibbs used - that following the stock market was akin to following a tracking poll - was flawed.

"As one who's had to follow tracking polls, I can tell you, there is a difference," Ford said. "I understand where the president is going and trying to achieve with the comment. But when you have gyrations in a tracking poll, people are not losing vast amounts of wealth, which we see in the stock market day in and day out. As Jim knows, I happen to agree with Cramer's points - his larger thrust, the point he's trying to make to this administration."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2009; bhoeconomy; cramer; democrats; economy; ford; matthews; msm; msnbc; obama
MSNBC took a break from Limbaugh watch for this???
1 posted on 03/04/2009 7:32:53 AM PST by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

Did I just hear Evan Bayh state that O should veto the budget bill?


2 posted on 03/04/2009 7:33:53 AM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: penelopesire; BulletBobCo; seekthetruth; Kevmo; gunnyg; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

``PING!


3 posted on 03/04/2009 7:35:14 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: Carley

I hear Russ Feingold! Alert on Fox News.


4 posted on 03/04/2009 7:35:22 AM PST by GoCards
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To: Carley

You did.

Indiana’s Sen. Bayh calls on Obama to veto massive spending bill

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/03/obama_opposed_by_dem_on_spendi.html


5 posted on 03/04/2009 7:35:54 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: STARWISE

It’s about time. People on both sides of the aisle need to speak out against the spending bill. The economy is in for a total collapse unless they reverse course. There are real solutions here.


6 posted on 03/04/2009 7:37:18 AM PST by jersey117
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To: STARWISE
Indiana’s Sen. Bayh calls on Obama to veto massive spending bill.

He may have said it, but he doesn't mean it. I call BS.

7 posted on 03/04/2009 7:39:17 AM PST by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: Rufus2007

I guess Gibbs will have another topic for today’s press conference.....


8 posted on 03/04/2009 7:40:41 AM PST by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Rufus2007

Chicago thugs!


9 posted on 03/04/2009 7:40:50 AM PST by lonestar (Obama has turned a crisis into a catastrophe.)
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To: Rufus2007
arguably the most politically left-of-center network, MSNBC

"arguably"? Ok, what would somebody "argue" in opposition? PBS?

10 posted on 03/04/2009 7:45:47 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: STARWISE

I know and respect Evan Bayh. If you knew how he governed this Indiana as a governor, you would understand why.

That said, he made a TERRIBLE MISTAKE this year, selling out his principles and those he represents for the chance to become Hillary’s VP.

I think he beginning to realize that, and what Obama’s destructive policies really mean for the people of Indiana.
TOTAL AND COMPLETE ECONOMIC DEVESTATION....


11 posted on 03/04/2009 7:45:50 AM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Rufus2007

Ford is jealous. Imus had him pegged as America’s First Black Prez years before Obama showed up (out of nowhere).

Although I’d take Ford right now anyday. He’s a conservative next to this leninist.


12 posted on 03/04/2009 7:47:04 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: nhwingut
Although I’d take Ford right now anyday. He’s a conservative next to this leninist.

I agree. And at least he has experience.

13 posted on 03/04/2009 7:48:16 AM PST by jersey117
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To: STARWISE

Veto his OWN BIll?

How does that work?


14 posted on 03/04/2009 7:48:44 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: nhwingut

“Although I’d take Ford right now anyday. He’s a conservative next to this leninist.”

I don’t know a lot about Ford, other than he always seems to be angry. That can’t wear well for a polititican?


15 posted on 03/04/2009 7:49:24 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: nhwingut
Fairly early in the last presidential campaign, there was a debate on TV between Ford and the Daily Kos guy. It was enlightening.

Ford praised Kos, said they agreed on many points, was conciliatory, and said that he hoped to work with the Kos folks to promote their common agenda.

The Kos guy ripped into Ford, said he was wrong, said he was out of touch and ill-informed. His time was over. He should leave the stage. Kos didn't want to work with him. Kos was going for all the marbles.

That's also how Obama "reaches out and unites".

16 posted on 03/04/2009 7:51:46 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (American Revolution II -- overdue)
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To: jersey117; All

Adding to the list of Obamans with buyer’s remorse

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‘I’m Maureen Dowd, and I’ve Been Had’ ~ A support group for bitter pundits disappointed in Obama is quickly becoming necessary.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2198936/posts

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Indiana’s Sen. Bayh calls on Obama to veto massive spending bill

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/03/obama_opposed_by_dem_on_spendi.html

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Centrist Dems Start Rebelling on Obama’s Spending Plans

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/centrist-dems-start-rebelling-on-obamas-spending-plans.php

Politico reports that 14 Dem senators (and Joe Lieberman, naturally) are meeting behind closed doors to discuss their discomfort with Obama’s $3.55 trillion 2010 budget.

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Watching the list grow:

Santelli
Cramer
Chris Buckley
Maureen Dowd
David Brooks
David Gergen
Andrew Sullivan
Marty Peretz
Sen. Evan Bayh
Sen. Robert Menendez
Sen. Joe Lieberman (+more)


17 posted on 03/04/2009 7:57:49 AM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: STARWISE

btt


18 posted on 03/04/2009 8:00:03 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Crawdad

If Bayh’s against it why doesn’t he vote against it.


19 posted on 03/04/2009 8:00:36 AM PST by jkeith3213
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To: Rufus2007

It would be difficult for Obama to “get it together” since he doesn’t know where “it” is.


20 posted on 03/04/2009 8:04:16 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: nhwingut
Although I’d take Ford right now anyday. He’s a conservative next to this leninist.

He's also an American, actually born in America, something the leninist Obama IS NOT.

21 posted on 03/04/2009 8:10:54 AM PST by libstripper
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To: Rufus2007

These guys don’t get it.

Obama puts no weight on what the market “says” because he KNOWS BETTER than it does.


22 posted on 03/04/2009 8:11:58 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: ClearCase_guy

You’re right... Ford is considered too conservative (LOL) for the KOS crowd.

Ford was a useful took in his ‘06 run for U.S. Senate against Corker, knowing a liberal had no shot in TN.

But once he lost, his “time was up.”

Rush is right. Bipartisanship to them (and Obama) is when a Republican gets rolled.


23 posted on 03/04/2009 8:11:59 AM PST by nhwingut (,)
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To: STARWISE

I saw Russ Feingold in a Fox News ALert also....


24 posted on 03/04/2009 8:14:17 AM PST by GoCards
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To: Rufus2007

There’s another difference between tracking polls and the stock market. Tracking polls show what is happening now; the stock market predicts what will happen six to twelve months ahead.


25 posted on 03/04/2009 8:26:21 AM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: GoCards
Hey! Remember McCain Feingold? That legislation signed by Bush that destroyed the NRAs rights of free speech 90 days before Federal elections! Wow! That was a blow to our constitution! We should not rally around Feingold, the Great American nobody...
26 posted on 03/04/2009 8:36:56 AM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: WayneS

He can’t, Congress has to override with a 2/3 vote.


27 posted on 03/04/2009 8:37:31 AM PST by sniper63 (Silent and stealthy - one shot - one kill)
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To: tcrlaf
Bayh has been in Hillary's pocket for years.....The Clintons has finance his reelection since they ran for President.....He will tell you one thing and vote the opposite....He IS NOT the person that was governor in INDIANA, but has become a die hard “rat”.....He's only ACTING conservative now because of the Bye Bye Bayh campaign started at the grass roots. Either Pence or My Man Mitch could take him down and he knows it!
28 posted on 03/04/2009 9:37:07 AM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: WayneS
Veto his OWN BIll? How does that work?

The same way he excused his decision before when he said "I screwed up." That'll get him applause from his followers who want their president to be "human" and just as dumb as them.

Come to think of it, maybe Obama has planned to have the absurd budget proposed so at the last minute, he can step in and veto it - showing that he has "listened" to the public. That just might be his ploy...to get everyone up in arms, and then to come swooping down to save the country.

29 posted on 03/04/2009 9:49:46 AM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Rufus2007

The market and many retirement accounts have lost more than 50% since last year, businesses are going belly up all over the landscape, millions are losing their jobs and Obama calls it a gyration.


30 posted on 03/04/2009 9:54:10 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: STARWISE

Sen. Menendez (crook) of NJ says he will not vote for this bill. It has language tht would ease travel to Cuba.

So the dems are just saying NO. What are the repubs saying...other than McCain. Anyone have a list of repubs who have said NO?


31 posted on 03/04/2009 10:06:16 AM PST by Carley (President Obama ~ Leaving No Tax Cheat Behind)
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To: WayneS
“Veto his OWN BIll?
How does that work?”

It works VERY well for him, a masterstroke, IF he is able to convince the American People that he is doing so because what Congress hath brought for his signature is not what he hath wrought for their approval.

Unfortunately for him, he cannot play that card. If he throws Congress under the bus he is at best lame-duck done right there and then. Too many in Congress sold their very souls in addition to their constituents’ futures for tickets on the “0-Train.”

The potential presidency-destroying rift is there. Anyway you look at it, he has soooooooooo jumped the shark.

Add to this the swelling ranks of the unemployed.
Add to this the markets going into a power-dive every time he speaks.
Add to this the mess his SoS has made of Israel-US relations.
Add to this the “Iran help/missile shield offer ‘letter-what-letter?’” Russian debacle.
Add to this his snubbing of the British PM.
Add to this PM Brown's warning to 0 re. "protectionism."
Add to this the GOP accusing 0 of "cooking the books."
Add to this Carville’s statement of admission re. “targeting” Rush.

Add to this the resulting Limbaugh firestorm and call to debate.

And those are but a few among the many "0" headlines currently on Drudge's page

Yes; veto that bill, Mr. President. Your handlers would welcome the distraction.

32 posted on 03/04/2009 10:40:32 AM PST by shoutingandpointing (Our enemy is at the center of our donut munching its way outward to the big empty that lies beyond.)
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To: Rufus2007

Someone gave them niacin.

33 posted on 03/04/2009 10:42:44 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CitizenM

Good point.


34 posted on 03/06/2009 4:40:53 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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