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US STOCKS-AIG fallout pushes Dow under 7,000 (AIG has most of the 401k of the teacher union)
reuters.com/ ^ | Mon Mar 2, 2009 | Charles Mikolajczak

Posted on 03/02/2009 1:54:32 PM PST by patriotmediaa

S&P 500 sinks below 700 in Wall St AIG fallout pushes Dow under 7,000

U.S. stocks slid to 12-year lows on Monday as a record $61.7 billion loss for AIG and another government bailout for the insurer heightened concerns about the extent of damage to the financial system. *

The stocks of companies that have found themselves on the wrong side of President Barack Obama's proposed budget fell again, as biotechs dropped for the fourth straight session. * The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI slid 299.64 points, or 4.24 percent, to end unofficially at 6,763.29. The Standard & Poor's 500 Index .SPX fell 34.27 points, or 4.66 percent, to finish unofficially at 700.82. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC lost 54.99 points, or 3.99 percent, to close unofficially at 1,322.85.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 401k; aig; bhodjia; teacher; union
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AIG has most of the 401k of the teacher union that make them to big to fail
1 posted on 03/02/2009 1:54:32 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: patriotmediaa

That is a shame ... I lost my 401K last year .... thanks Citi


2 posted on 03/02/2009 1:55:48 PM PST by clamper1797 (FUBO ... The Kenyan Lincoln)
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To: patriotmediaa
Now it makes sense! I say good riddance to AIG. If Obama is going to slash and burn capitalism, then I say slash and burn it all.....
3 posted on 03/02/2009 1:57:49 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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Mr. Liddy took a somewhat defiant tone, suggesting the new bailout money wasn’t strictly necessary and that A.I.G.’s mammoth loss was a essentially sign of the times.

“I can’t emphasize enough; we need no new cash right now,” Mr. Liddy said on the call, describing the new $30 billion in funding, in the form of an expanded government credit line, as a “backup facility” intended to “enhance the restructuring we are working on.”

He also said the $61 billion fourth-quarter loss “does not reflect the fundamentals of our major businesses.” Instead, Mr. Liddy stated, “the results primarily reflect noncash charges associated with the restructuring of our balance sheet and the severe market disruption that is occurring around the globe.”

Mr. Liddy also tried to put his company’s bailout in a global context: He said A.I.G. was acting as sort of conduit to funnel money from the government to dozens of financial institutions around the world. A.I.G. had guaranteed about $300 billion in complex derivatives, many of which have gone sour, forcing it to raise capital.

The government feared that if A.I.G. became unable to pay claims, it would have sent shock waves throughout the financial world, causing many bank failures.

“The government believes, and we do also, that A.I.G. is a systemically important financial institution,” Mr. Liddy said on Monday’s call. “There are just too many people and too many institutions that depend on the promise represented by an A.I.G. commitment.”


4 posted on 03/02/2009 1:58:32 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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Is this legit? Does the NEA have a lot of money in AIG?

I heard it was because Congress and their retirement system has a lot of money in AIG that has caused this turkey to stay allive.


5 posted on 03/02/2009 1:59:41 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Get the bats and light the hay)
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The performance of the teachers union 401(k) and AIG's financial problems have nothing at all to do with one another unless all of the assets were held in AIG stock.

The teacher's 401(k) assets are suffering from the consequences of a stock market that has shed 3,000 pts since inauguration day and 7,000 points since 2007. In other words, there is enough blame to go around.

6 posted on 03/02/2009 2:01:03 PM PST by JrsyJack (Oh dem golden slippers!!)
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The government’s newly overhauled rescue package for AIG is $162.5 billion, according to government officials. Divide that by 111,609,629 — the total number of U.S. households, according to the U.S. Census’ 2005-2007 American Community Survey — and the result is $1,455.97. That’s nearly double the maximum tax benefit U.S. couples will receive under the federal stimulus package approved last month.


7 posted on 03/02/2009 2:01:49 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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Down 299.64 sounds better than being down 300, doesn’t it? Thanks, Obama!/s


8 posted on 03/02/2009 2:01:52 PM PST by Frank_2001
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(AIG has most of the 401k of the teacher union)

Best news I have heard all day.

To any unionized teachers: Are you enjoying your new socialism?
9 posted on 03/02/2009 2:02:55 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
Now it makes sense! I say good riddance to AIG. If Obama is going to slash and burn capitalism, then I say slash and burn it all.....

Starting with the Congressional pension and benefit plans.

10 posted on 03/02/2009 2:04:29 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Economists predicting a quick recovery are like the band that continued playing on the Titanic.)
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To: patriotmediaa

Yeah, my 401(k) and IRA are pretty much toast by now, too. Why should I feel sorry for the teachers?


11 posted on 03/02/2009 2:06:33 PM PST by NEMDF
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Which teacher’s union? The teachers in cal are in CALSTRS. Most of them who supplement are in 403b.


12 posted on 03/02/2009 2:06:44 PM PST by nufsed
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True, teachers don’t usually ahve 401(k) plans....


13 posted on 03/02/2009 2:07:58 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: clamper1797

video about aig and 401k teacher union)http://www.cnbc.com/id/29465061


14 posted on 03/02/2009 2:09:02 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: snowrip
Unfortunately the NEA will insist during the next round of collective bargaining that states provide a bailout to the teacher's 401(k) plans in ways similar to the 100% funding demands they currently insist on in traditional DB plans. The result will be higher taxes...just wait until you get the bill this year as states are required to repay all the money that their unionized labor and teachers’ pension funds have lost.
15 posted on 03/02/2009 2:09:15 PM PST by JrsyJack (Oh dem golden slippers!!)
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To: NEMDF

The money could be in these funds anyway. Most of CalSTRS and 403bs are stocks are they not?


16 posted on 03/02/2009 2:09:55 PM PST by nufsed
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video
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29465061


17 posted on 03/02/2009 2:10:01 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: nufsed

no


18 posted on 03/02/2009 2:11:36 PM PST by patriotmediaa
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To: JrsyJack

I’m leaving Maine to move to NH; no state income tax.


19 posted on 03/02/2009 2:13:42 PM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A GUTLESS SOCIALIST LOSER WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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I am familiar with the options to Cal public employees. They come though the state Savings Plus program. It was my recollection that most of them are mutual funds (groups of stocks) and stocks. Please enlighten me and tell me where the money is really invested.


20 posted on 03/02/2009 2:14:06 PM PST by nufsed
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