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Obama may use 50-vote tactic on energy, healthcare
The Hill ^ | 3-1-09 | Jim Snyder

Posted on 03/01/2009 4:30:38 PM PST by cdchik123

President Obama’s budget director said the White House would consider using a Senate procedural tactic so that only 50 votes would be rquired to pass major healthcare and energy reforms.

Peter Orszag, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, said the administration would prefer not to use the budget reconciliation process to push through its package. But he added: "We have to keep everything on the table. We want to get these.... important things done this year." Orszag called healthcare in particular "the key to our fiscal future."

Orszag made the comments on ABC’s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos."

Because they can not be filibustered, budget reconciliations only require 50 votes to pass the Senate. Democrats hold strong majorities in Congress, but still come up short of the 60 votes necessary in the Senate to end debate, which makes it easier for Republicans to block legislation. House rules in comparison make it harder for the minority party to stop bills.

Still, using budget reconciliation to pass policy proposals is controversial, even among some Democrats who believe doing so strains Senate rules and tradition.

The Obama blueprint calls for major changes in both energy and healthcare policies that is likely to engender significant opposition from Republicans and business lobbies. The reforms are expect to win widespread support from Democrats and more left-leaning constituencies.

The budget plan calls for a cap on carbon emissions, for example, and projects $645 billion in revenues from an auction of pollution permits that a variety of business groups, including oil companies, large manufacturers and utilities, would have to purchase.

On healthcare, the plan calls for a $634 billion reserve fund to pay for a first step on healthcare reform.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; 50vote; bho44; bhoomb; budgetreconciliation; cloture; communism; gangof14; gangofmccain; gangofnone; liberalism; marxism; nuclearoption; obama; orszag; senate; socialism; stalinism
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1 posted on 03/01/2009 4:30:38 PM PST by cdchik123
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To: cdchik123

And the Republicans were so afraid of using the nuclear option.


2 posted on 03/01/2009 4:32:22 PM PST by oldbill
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To: cdchik123

So much for separation of powers.


3 posted on 03/01/2009 4:32:29 PM PST by Carling ("We've lost two people in my family because you dickheads won't cut trees down," - Warwick Spooner)
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To: cdchik123
Tyranny
4 posted on 03/01/2009 4:32:29 PM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: cdchik123

No surprise, a ‘rat is a rat.


5 posted on 03/01/2009 4:34:59 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: oldbill

Yep I remember about the nuclear option on judges.

Well, a backlog of Bush’s nominees were confirmed to the federal bench after the showdown on the nuclear option. And filibusters of Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court were avoided. We see that with Dems. in total control, they don’t want to face any Republican filibusters on anything.


6 posted on 03/01/2009 4:36:47 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: cdchik123
He is really working hard on his legacy. I think at this point Jimmy Carter is relieved that someone else is taking his place. Jimmy really was trying so hard to succeed in something that would close the door on his disastrous presidency. I think Jimmy got his wish! Now we need to run o out of town on the next train while we still have some money in our retirement accounts!
7 posted on 03/01/2009 4:37:29 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: rdl6989

When are the Shepple going to wake up and realize that a Coup has taken place.


8 posted on 03/01/2009 4:37:54 PM PST by jedi150
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To: cdchik123

Your Congress critters or beasts don’t care about you.


9 posted on 03/01/2009 4:44:27 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: cdchik123
On healthcare, the plan calls for a $634 billion reserve fund to pay for a first step on healthcare reform.

So I guess we'll just print more money.

Almost no one in DC is even talking about social security crisis that's looming on the horizon. If this keeps up we may well look like Argentina in 10 years.

10 posted on 03/01/2009 4:45:59 PM PST by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: cdchik123

I hope and pray that the Republicans will be able to block the health reforms that O and his deathly crew are planning to inflict on Americans! The first to be carried out will be the death sentences to all unborn children who are identified as handicapped in the womb (remember Hitler and his first plans of annihilation against the handicapped?)


11 posted on 03/01/2009 4:46:31 PM PST by Anita1 ( "Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last." Luke 13:30)
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To: jedi150
When are the Shepple going to wake up and realize that a Coup has taken place.

When there's no more bread and circuses. When people are going without.

12 posted on 03/01/2009 4:47:55 PM PST by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: jedi150

Machiavelli pointed out to his liege that if he was going to do several terrible things to the people it was better to do them all at once. That way the people will forget sooner.

If he stops spending huge amounts of money in a year, then he is done until he is reelected. 2010 elections come into play and the 2012 elections affect him personally. So he needs to get this stuff done ASAP to limit damage to the Dems in 2010 and so that folks will forget and hence forgive in 2012.


13 posted on 03/01/2009 4:48:35 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Anita1
I hope and pray that the Republicans will be able to block the health reforms that O and his deathly crew are planning to inflict on Americans!

Specter, Collins and Snow. They mind as well have 60 votes.

14 posted on 03/01/2009 4:49:22 PM PST by Aglooka (Posting from New Hampshachusetts (Formerly New Hampshire))
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To: cdchik123
Aggh this misrable O(*&(*^)(*^ I could scream.....

No voice on this in the house, we have been nuetered from house rul;es and no seperation of powers and true debate on game changers via sticking them in a budget vs. debate where the light of sunshine would disinfect them.

15 posted on 03/01/2009 4:49:42 PM PST by taildragger (Palin / Mulally 2012)
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To: Aglooka

They will still blame Bush, Republicans and Conservatives.


16 posted on 03/01/2009 4:53:14 PM PST by lil'bit
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To: Aglooka

There are issues with the presence of Kennedy and Franken.


17 posted on 03/01/2009 5:00:21 PM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: cdchik123

Just what is his definition of “bipartisanship”?


18 posted on 03/01/2009 5:01:42 PM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: cdchik123
[Democrats hold strong majorities in Congress, but still come up short of the 60 votes necessary in the Senate to end debate, which makes it easier for Republicans to block legislation.]

This hasn't actually been proven yet.

19 posted on 03/01/2009 5:06:59 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (The inmates are now officially running the asylum.)
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To: cdchik123
This is called the Nuclear Option.

And the first thing outta the bag, Obama employs it.

There is zero chance that this man intends on leaving office. This is a bloodthirsty move right out of the gate. 2012 will be very bloody, literally.

20 posted on 03/01/2009 5:07:09 PM PST by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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