Posted on 02/26/2009 8:19:23 AM PST by yukruk
I experienced a moment of clarity:
The Republican coalition can not stand the dominance of the neocons.
1) Communism possessed a powerful military force with numerous nuclear weapons. Radical Islam does not threaten us in the same way. 2) Businessmen do not feel as threatened by Islam. 3) Some in the Republican coalition will worry that Israel is using us. 4) Converting Moslems into our friends is made harder by our Middle Eastern conquests. The Communists were easier to convert by conquest, they rarely held any real love for Communism.
Neoconservatives can be a part of the coalition, but they can not dominate the coalition. Wars of choice must be avoided (particularly if the evidence that directs our decision to go to war is faulty).
Let's pretend George Bush part 2 never happened and start over.
I dream of a world without neoconservatives, without paleoconservatives, only conservatives.
Ooooh! Ooooh! I’m wondering if this is going to be my first IBTZ moment! I’m so excited. I’ve tried so many times and I’ve been disappointed so many times, usually because I waste time discoursing like this . . .
The Muslims don’t have nuclear weapons and don’t pose the same kind of threat the Commies did? Are you frickin’ kidding me? The Muslims probably do have nuclear weapons and pose a far worse threat than the Commies ever did, because the Commies at least were logical people who did not particularly care to die. Can’t say the same for radical Muslims at all.
Pleasant dreams.......... However reality is a bitch sometimes and must be accepted for what it is. As long as there are individuals with a mind/will etc there won't be one homogeneous group.
“Wars of choice” means you don’t wait for your enemy to choose the time and place. Waiting cost us 400,000 dead servicemen in the second world war, a couple million wounded, and 50 million dead world-wide.
>> I experienced a moment of clarity
Either you didn’t experience any such moment ... or the “moment” faded before you wrote that drivel.
War of choice? Tell that to those who worked in the WTC.
SnakeDoc
Is neocon yukruk-speak for Joooooooos?
Ping my friend PC. This newbie has it in for you.
Got a better choice, how about we recall that the only successful conservative campaigns and presidencies were built upon the ideals of smaller government, less burden on the taxpayers, and a need for personal responsibility.
Obama didn’t get the White House because of the war in Iraq, that’s the fiction of the media. He got it because the electorate couldn’t figure out what the difference was between the parties anymore. Both wanted ever increasing governments, more control over our lives, and advocation of personal responsibility to be replaced by the government doing it for us.
But it’s far easier to blame mythical neocons for the failures of the party as a whole to understand these very, very basic tenets.
"Wars of choice" is a cliche and a leftist talking point that bears little resemblance to reality...
Do you also use phony leftist terms like, "social justice", "tax cuts for the rich", and "fairness" when you write your "conservative" screeds?
Oh, you mean like the one that created the only functioning Arab democracy?
Go back to Daily Kos. They love ignorant talk like that there.
ibtz
I struggle with the fact that it is virtually impossible to define these terms in a useful way, and it is impossible to place peopple within those catagories anyway.
Better to speak of tenants we believe, than to try to label groups of beliefs into meaningless catagories. Your moment of calrity would be my moment of confusion. I would wake myself up and start over if I were you.
Sure you do. And you're a live long stanch republican, right ?
I dream of FR without trolls.
Tell that to your Muslim and Leftist buddies.
I've got a better idea. Let's pretend the 2008 election never happened and start over.
OK, I LIKE this game! Let's pretend slick willy never happened and start over.
Let's pretend you're not clueless.
Let's pretend Reagan didn't have to get old and have alzheimer's disease and that he was still alive and eligible to be President. OK, that just makes me sad. I miss Reagan.
What's wrong with "wars of choice"? I mean, isn't that the whole point of being the world hegemon? What did we break our backs for building a cross-continental railway, skyscrapers, a network of superhighways, an overwhelming popular culture, if it wasn't to be able to crush the necks of developing nations under the iron boot-heel of oppression? You think we did it for our health?
Here's the deal. Bomb factories hire workers. Workers support the unions. You're not anti-union, are you? War is a classic Keynensian stimulus package and anyone not supporting it wants to see workers on breadlines and little American children selling apples on the street. You don't want that...do you?
It's called a bran muffin.
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