Posted on 02/20/2009 12:34:35 AM PST by South40
State lawmakers will cut $8.4 billion from the $58.1 billion budget for public education, lowering per-pupil spending from $8,784 to $8,404 over the next two years. That's $11,400 less for a typical K-12 classroom of 30 kids.
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>>State lawmakers will cut $8.4 billion from the $58.1 billion budget for public education, lowering per-pupil spending from $8,784 to $8,404 over the next two years. That’s $11,400 less for a typical K-12 classroom of 30 kids.<<
That means they get $240,000 a year for 30 kids. That means they could rent office space and hire 3 teachers @ $30,000 and have $100,000 a year left over for overhead, athletics and special needs kids if the system was at all sane.
I’m sure the teachers union is willing to cut pay 5 percent “for the children.” Sarc.
What I wonder is what kind of ‘cut’ this is - is it the ‘cut’ where they don’t increase spending? Is it the ‘cut’ where the schools claim an anticipated revenue and get less? Or is it a ‘cut’ where the state promises too much spending, as well as yearly increases and can’t deliver because of the economic reality of not bringing in that money?
Teachers in my part of California do NOT make $30K. Trust me. I ran payroll. 42K to start. Plus some mighty expensive benies.
Bingo.
“lowering per-pupil spending from $8,784 to $8,404...That’s $11,400 less for a typical K-12 classroom of 30 kids....”
Does this cover only Average Daily Attendance and a lot of other stuff is on separate line items or funded by other taxes?
Is the 30 kids statement in fact typical?
Hi and ping to 7
Around 1998, I happened across some information that revealed something like half the students at the K-12 schools in Los Angeles were the children of illegal immigrants. I’m recalling that from memory, so I may be off to a certain degree, but I remember at the time looking at the budget and thinking half of it was for children who shouldn’t be here.
Why is it that we have to tell our elected officials that this is wrong? Isn’t it obvious? Our laws are not being enforced. We are getting ripped off for billions of dollars each year. The education system is being destroyed. Our health care system is too.
It’s just a given that this is going to continue rather than we get our house in order. We pass tax increases for $14 billion when we could cut $7.7 and far more easily. So yes, some of us taxpayers are quite angry about this.
It will stop with a revolution and not much else.
Our Overlords know what’s best for us and they are going to give it to us whether we like it or not.
Kindergarten, pre-K and all the other early indoctrinate your kid programs are an unnecessary luxury. They are nothing more than baby sitting services for parents who don’t to teach their kids or have anything to do with their early upbringing. Kindergarten is a good system to begin the socialist indoctrination of children.
For 10 months of work...if that.
Cry me a river. The public education system is the biggest scam going.
Funny thing is, if the State would offer people private school vouchers of $6,000 per student, hundreds of thousands of students would take the offer. The State could reduce costs and make the parents happy at the same time. New private schools would sprout to handle the load — without the bloat the public school system has.
But it won’t happen because public schools aren’t run for the benefit of the students or society as a whole — it is run for the benefit of the teachers and bureaucrats of the public school system.
IMO, one of the biggest problems with public school is the lack of order. A relatively small number of numskulls detract from the learning experience yet are forced to be there because of mandates they be educated. Here is a novel idea: after a few warnings to the parents and the students, expel them. I don't care if they become hobos, drug users, or felony perpetrators later. Why destroy the lives of those who want to get an education by Kowtowing to a group that is never going to amount to anything anyway. If it makes the public feel better, make their parents responsible for finding them private education or home school them.
The educators will be pissed. Eudu money is union toilet money
This is money salvaged from the edu sewer
at some point, a voucher system would become just like a ‘bailout’ - you took our money, now we tell you what to do. Vouchers were a decent idea at the time, but now you just have to stay away from federal dollars. And, the way this guy is going, that wouldn’t stop him for long...it is for the children...
I agree.
As the husband of a teacher, I get a little ticked when teachers take the rap for school problems. That stance ignores a few gorillas in the living room.
1) ADMINISTRATORS - Houston Independent School District has 1 employee per 6.775 students, per their own statistics. Anybody seen a typical class size of seven lately ? If you assume a more reasonable average class size of 25, you find there are 3.689 NON TEACHING employees per classroom teacher.
These folks spend most of their time dreaming up extra stuff for the teachers to do and giving “inservices” on long disproven educational theories re-packaged as “new”.
2) DISCIPLINE - They have classes ( “behavior management” ) for the kinds of kids that would have been in REFORM SCHOOL when I was a kid. Kids curse the teachers, threaten the teachers, assault the teachers, and nothing is done. In my wife’s school, the principal (who has exactly 2 whole years of kindergarten teaching experience) blames the teachers for the kids’ misbehavior. She thinks no one should EVER raise their voice to a “student”.
The administrators in the schools I attended would use necessary punishment, corporal or otherwise, to reign in bad actors - or they’d expel them. Not so today.
3) “COMMUNITY CENTERS” - Schools are trying to be everything to everybody. They’re already year round food service places. Free breakfast and free lunch for 95% of my wife’s school. Never mind that Mom or Dad drop off the little freeloaders while driving NEW cars.
4) ILLEGAL ALIENS - Nobody knows how many little creeps at my wife’s school are illegals, but a huge number “go home” to Mexico REGULARLY for extended vacations - and bring back all kinds of nasty diseases. And of course, they’re behind on their schoolwork - which is again the teacher’s fault.
HISD spends $7811 per pupil. So a classroom of 25 would get $195,275. Top teacher pay is $70K, again per the district. Let’s say bennies add 25%. That still leaves $107,775 per classroom for books, etc., as the buildings are largely long ago paid off.
Where’s the money going ? Pissed away on excess administrators, “community center” type crap not belonging in a school, and illegal aliens.
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