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Kan. Senate to debate smoking ban
The Topeka Capital Journal ^ | February 14, 2009 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/15/2009 6:58:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) — A proposed ban on smoking in most public places will be debated Monday in the Senate, and the chamber's top two leaders said Friday that the bill's chances for passage are good.

"If there are no substantive amendments, I would assume it would pass," said Senate President Steve Morris, a Hugoton Republican.

Senate Vice President John Vratil agreed, but cautioned that opponents will try to load it up with amendments.

(Excerpt) Read more at cjonline.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: bars; freedom; health; healthnazis; kansas; ks; kssenate; liberty; nannystate; secondhandsmoke; smokingban; smokingnazis; socialism

1 posted on 02/15/2009 6:58:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; Gabz; GOP_Lady

PING!


2 posted on 02/15/2009 7:00:33 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The Time Has Come to Say, "Stop!"


3 posted on 02/15/2009 7:02:09 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Maybe we could STIMULATE the tobacco farms of North Carolina by asking everyone in Kansas to smoke!


4 posted on 02/15/2009 7:02:41 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas is also working on a smoking ban.


5 posted on 02/15/2009 7:03:19 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If these dumbass politicians keep this up, who is going to pay for their S-CHIP?


6 posted on 02/15/2009 7:04:09 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Have You Punched A Democrat Today? - Do it for the children.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Unfortunately, today’s Republicans are just yesterday’s Democrats.........


7 posted on 02/15/2009 7:05:02 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: GOP_Lady

AMEN!


8 posted on 02/15/2009 7:05:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“I simply turn on the Golden EIB Microphone and share my honest passions and beliefs with people. And they’re free to go elsewhere. They’re free to ignore; they’re free to believe; they’re free to be entertained, I don’t care. They’re free to do whatever they want. But a lot of people aren’t free to smoke cigarettes where they want; they’re not free to drink where they want; they’re not free to eat the kind of food they want to eat; they’re not free to eat trans fats; they’re not free to drive certain places. Pretty soon we’re going to be told what kind of cars we have to drive. I can’t cause that. I can’t restrict anybody’s freedom. We’ve elected a guy who can, does, and wants to, all under the guise of saving us. So I appreciate the effort, and I appreciate somewhat losing my temper here. But don’t compare me ever to an authoritarian who thinks so little of people that without him they can barely breathe on their own. Don’t ever do that.”

LEARN IT, LOVE IT, LIVE IT!

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_012109/content/01125110.member.html

If one cannot understand Rush’s words above, then one does not truly understand FREEDOM!

9 posted on 02/15/2009 7:05:26 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Kansas Senate is deciding whether or not to allow the people of Kansas to be free or be servants of the government. And the answer is.....?


10 posted on 02/15/2009 7:05:38 PM PST by mort56
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To: FlingWingFlyer

All of us, smoker and non-smoker alike, of course.


11 posted on 02/15/2009 7:06:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And those are the EXACT words that Rush said.

It is unbelievable to me why there cannot be one place in any one state where adults can be adults. There is just no reason for it — none. We’re adults, not children.


12 posted on 02/15/2009 7:07:23 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: trumandogz

Will one actually pass down there?


13 posted on 02/15/2009 7:08:38 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Read what this person posted:

‘MHCC Admin has strict Smoking Rules in place. Employees and Residents are required to go to the other end of the building to smoke. However at night, there is one security guard that let’s employees smoke at the front doors because he is also a smoker. His explanation is “the residents are in bed asleep so they don’t know that I let the employees smoke in front of the doors”. The same officer claims that Admin is aware of the exception that he makes and is fine with his decision to allow smoking at the entrance between 10PM and 5AM. In the meantime, the other security officers who enforce the smoking rules are disrespected by the employees and ge their life threatened all because of this one guard making exceptions. His reply to one guard was “sometimes you have to bend the rules”.’

http://www.smokechoke.com/mod/smoke/view.php?smoke_id=546


14 posted on 02/15/2009 7:10:23 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: trumandogz

http://www.jointogether.org/news/headlines/inthenews/2008/indiana-smoking-ban-billfails.html


15 posted on 02/15/2009 7:12:24 PM PST by digger48
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vratil is a RINO.


16 posted on 02/15/2009 7:12:55 PM PST by Mercat (There will be a day)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Looks like we still have way too many Republicans who didn’t learn a F%&^ thing in 2006 and 2008


17 posted on 02/15/2009 7:18:57 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

YEP.


18 posted on 02/15/2009 7:19:47 PM PST by GOP_Lady
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>All of us, smoker and non-smoker alike, of course.<

Here in my state, KY, they just passed their own cigarette tax hike.

Head line from my local paper (http://www.somerset-kentucky.com/local/local_story_046013815.html):

“Tax hikes on alcohol, cigarettes have spared education funding cuts — for now”

For now? And they actually expect anyone to believe there will be education cuts?

Smokers can only be bled so much, especially when these smoking bans are being proposed. The tax revenues will eventually begin to fall off, and then what? I think the answer to that is crystal clear: since it is “for the children”, there will be no cuts, and the revenue will be made up by passing taxes on other goods...


19 posted on 02/15/2009 7:24:05 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: LRS

I should have been more specific: For now? And they actually expect anyone to believe there will be education FUNDING cuts?

Education itself has been cut since I was in school. It’s the funding that won’t be cut!


20 posted on 02/15/2009 7:28:15 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Exactly, the poor children will go without health insurance, and obama will have to put breathalizers in some bill so a curable disease like asthma wont happen.. to the children, and they wont need the emergnecy room..We all need to just buy a pack or two a day and destroy them if you dont smoke.. support the children.. (sarc)


21 posted on 02/15/2009 7:31:41 PM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: LRS

I recently stopped smoking after becoming quite ill w/flu.

Notice, I said I did not say I quit smoking. To this point I have no desire for a cigarette.

What I do desire is for government to stop passing laws that impinge upon those that do care to consume a legal product.


22 posted on 02/15/2009 7:59:08 PM PST by Hilltop (Control the high ground. Control the battlefield.)
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To: Hilltop

Child hater! (Just kidding!!!)

Congrats! Hang in there! I know how tough it can be!


23 posted on 02/15/2009 8:04:15 PM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m not sure I get the point, why not just ban cigarettes. Can they even total ban smoking in public and not ban cigarettes. It would seem like a problem there? just asking


24 posted on 02/15/2009 8:09:31 PM PST by WHBates
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texas is an urban state and all the major urban areas have smoking bans.


25 posted on 02/15/2009 8:22:09 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: WHBates

“They” make money on the sale of smokes.....”They” aren’t going to ban them.


26 posted on 02/15/2009 8:28:45 PM PST by Osage Orange (Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. -Will Rogers)
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To: LRS

:)

Thx LRS. I don’t count the days, I just don’t think about having a smoke.


27 posted on 02/15/2009 8:34:26 PM PST by Hilltop (Control the high ground. Control the battlefield.)
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To: trumandogz

So now all the urbanites are trying to impose their will on literally hundreds of rural Texas counties?


28 posted on 02/16/2009 11:33:55 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; trumandogz

It just doesn’t seem fair. I hope all those stuck-up New Jersey transplants down there fail miserably.


29 posted on 02/16/2009 11:35:35 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: GOP_Lady

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

~ C.S. Lewis ~

30 posted on 02/16/2009 11:37:45 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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