Posted on 02/14/2009 8:12:51 PM PST by Flavius
Associated Press Writer HELENA, Mont. (AP) Firearms manufactured and used in Montana would be exempt from federal regulation, under a bill the Montana House is supporting.
House Bill 246 aims to circumvent federal authority over interstate commerce, which is the legal basis for most gun regulation in the United States. The bill could have the effect of releasing Montana gun owners from federal registration requirements.
The measure applies to firearms, firearm accessories and ammunition that are made and sold in the state.
The bill's sponsor, Republican Rep. Joel Boniek of Livingston, says his proposal is more about states' rights than about gun rights.
(Excerpt) Read more at kxmb.com ...
Everytime I read about this, I keep thinking that if it passes, I’ll have to move to Montana and set up my business there.
Mike
Wonder how the job market is in Montana? Housing for migratory Michiganders... It is a Red State to boot.
Impressive.
If other states follow Montana’s lead, this bill would create a lot of jobs. Each state would need it’s own gun manufacturers.
I’ll bet if this passes, all the gun mfgrs, especially those in New England and IL will immediately move to MT. Excellent for non-PC employment opportunities. BZ, MT!
bttt
States rights are starting to pop up all over.The peacefull revolution is starting.
Obama throwing a “challenge” at S.Carl. Sanford....could be a pivotal battle in State vrs. Fed Right
the clause is buried in the Stimulus....M.Malkin has it on site.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/13/the-punish-mark-sanford-amendment/
Pits the states gov’s vrs state Legislators
Interesting approach...I wish them the best.
But no doubt the feds will say that they can regulate the raw materials used for firearms. Don’t ask how, but they will find some way.
Slowly, but inexorably, the battle lines are being drawn.
Nah they'll just use the same justification they used back in the 30s to regulate crops grown by a farmer to be fed to his own livestock. If he hadn't grown it, it would have had to buy it, thus affecting the interstate market for grain. Same logic would apply to guns, or anything else, the bastids want to control.
bump & a ping
Good for Montana. I’ve done all the moving I want to do for a lifetime, but I’ve loved everytime I’ve visited there. I’ve actually used re-barreling a rifle as an excuse to take a drive to Kalispell. Again, good for you Montana, and may heaven and your will to be free save you from our national nightmare.
Each of the major manufacturers could put in a miniature shop in each state.
KelTek (MT), KelTek (WY), KelTek (ID), etc.
I like it!
Peaceful until the jackbooted thugs step in (or the Obama Internal Security Forces). What then, fold up the tents, go home and be contented slaves? Or...
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I continue to add names to the ping list as I run across others I find participating on similar threads. If you want off the list just say so.
Please add me to your ping list!
Yes’um, Done.
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Should this pass, I'll need some skilled machinists for my silencer shop!
Here is the vote tabulation for the second reading
Here is the $hit list of those vermin who voted against the Second Amendment and Montana's sovereignty! They will pay a heavy price when we get this out to their home towns!
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N French, Julie
N MacDonald, Margaret
N Augare, Shannon
N Furey, Timothy
N Reinhart, Michele
N Malek, Sue
N Barrett, Dick
N McAlpin, Dave
N Grinde, Wanda
N McChesney, Bill
N Beck, Paul
N Hamilton, Robin
N McClafferty, Edith (Edie)
N Sands, Diane
N Becker, Arlene
N Hands, Betsy
N Sesso, Jon
N Belcourt, Tony
N Bergren, Bob
N Henry, Teresa
N Hollenbaugh, Galen
N Blewett, Anders
N Boss Ribs, Frosty
N Noonan, Art
N Villa, Dan
N Hunter, Chuck
N Noonan, Pat
N Caferro, Mary
N Ebinger, Bob
N Driscoll, Robyn
N Campbell, Margarett
N Dickenson, Sue
N Wilmer, Franke
N Phillips, Mike
N Pomnichowski, JP
N Pease-Lopez, Carolyn
I’ve got 20 acres outside of Bozeman. It’s calling my name. Virginia is just too close to DC anymore.
With the added benefit of ticking off the anti-gunners, and not a damned thing they could do about it. Win-win!
“Nah they’ll just use the same justification they used back in the 30s to regulate crops grown by a farmer to be fed to his own livestock. If he hadn’t grown it, it would have had to buy it, thus affecting the interstate market for grain. Same logic would apply to guns, or anything else, the bastids want to control.”
You’re right, I had forgotten that rationale. Unreal. For the Dems, their entire reason for existence is supported by rationale like that...you can (somewhat) understand their paranoia regarding control of the courts.
How about taxing home owners for work they do on their homes. After all, they aren’t paying taxes on the labor. ;0)
Kudos to Montana....and the only way probably to keep the Feds from enacting anti-2d Amendment legislation.
States have a right to regulate intra-state commerce....and the courts, for the most part, side with states on this one
I could see opposition from the gun-grabbers....but also the Globalists and Free Traders....just wait, one of them will wail “Protectionism”
But, Montana should be commended for the legislation. Not only they have made their state safer, but it will actually create jobs with the manufacturing
Come Check out Idaho first!
We live about an hour away from Montana
Back about two years ago a fella shot out the tire of a scumbag who just held up a Exxon station with a 30-06 at 100 yds
In Any other State that hero would be charged with a crime
We carry REAL guns for CCW
Just a few miles from where I live in Southwest Missouri Fiocchi of America loads center fire rifle and pistol, rim fire and a full line of shot shells.
Now who manufactures the firearms within the state?
This gun legislation has possibilities!
Bush's Solicitor General already lost regulating raw materials under the Commerce Clause in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in a Nevada case.
I have lived in Montana for 38 years and am pleased as punch to see my state show zero’s thugs the door. There are at least 20 states that have or will take a stand against these federal beaurocrats. I hope we will not live the 1860’s over again but if zero pushes too hard who knows what will happen.
We raise the ante, the feds raise the ante. But at what point does the government decide enforcement is too big of a problem to fix? like they contend illegal immigration and food inspections currently are.
A couple of ruby ridges or Waco’s will definitely turn the population against the government in spectacular ways.
Actually in Missouri there are several ammo manufacturers.
Sedalia, St Louis, KC. St Louis and KC are pretty much military grade. Definitely a possibility.
Whats to stop the franchising of particular models or parts to Joe’s Machine and Tool Shop?
Is there such a thing as a nationwide 10th amendment movement/organization with state level branches?
I have come to understand that this is perhaps the only way to save our liberty from nationwide socialism/fascism.
We have to pressure our state legislatures to stand up and assert state sovereignty.
Wickard v Filburn, 1942
And, yes, I was thinking the same thing.
However, what if the state refused or resisted enforcement?
What if two states did... or 20?
You’re referring to “imputed income”.
If you do work on your own home, you are therefore not paying someone else to do that work (depriving a union member of work), and are therefore “imputing” income to your household.
The job market is lousy and it is barely a red state. We call Missoula, Moscow in the Rockies.
Yep, Idaho is much better than Montana...except for the nut jobs in Sun Valley and Ketchum.
Looks VERY promising!
For starters a 12 ga pump, 30-06 bolt action, 10/22 and a 38/357 revolver for the bare essentials manufactured in Missouri.
Then Joe would need to multitask with thousands of models just to keep the economy healthy.
Capitalism would then cause more ammo to follow the money trail.
You've nailed it!
They manufacturers could keep building the components in their existing facilities. The components could then be shipped to smaller shops in the desired states for assembly. Voila! “Made in Montana!”
This is real Stimulus.
As near as I can tell this movement appears to have been initiated by a libertarian group. I haven't done the research to track down the genesis however. God bless 'em, whoever and wherever they are!
I have come to understand that this is perhaps the only way to save our liberty from nationwide socialism/fascism.
I have come to the same conclusion. For the better part of a hundred years it seems the states were our watchmen when it came to an overbearing feral government. They jeolously guarded their, and coincidentally our rights with something approaching "eternal vigilance". Since the Civil War, many states still appeared to be proactive in many areas but as more time passed and more infringements from the fedguv were endured by the states, the powers GUARANTEED by the Constitution to the states began to erode and move towards the feral beast. Even so, nothing has really changed Constitutionally. With noted exceptions(16th, 17th eg), there have been NO amendments re the diminution of states' rights. Laws/rules/regulations/mandates and other infringements handed down from the DC mount notwithstanding, the states still have their original positions in relation to the fedguv, if they but choose to assert them.
We have to pressure our state legislatures to stand up and assert state sovereignty.
ABSOLUTELY! And support and encourage those making the moves towards reclaiming their rightful postions as the dog and NOT the tail.
State officials have a constitutional DUTY to resist unconstitutional 'laws'.. -- And if they insist on an opinion [on this basis] before the SCOTUS, they cannot lose.
The ensuing constitutional crisis could only result in making idiotic decisions like 'Wickard v Filburn, 1942' null and void.
Thanks for the after lunch smile!!
Idaho is a Very Red State & Thank God for that!!
Our friend moved around Flathead Lake and shortly after his arrival they had a Gay Pride parade...L.O.L
He claimed Idaho had to many transplant liberals...L.O.L
Idaho is the State that throws “objects” that are not bolted down at our Senators during Town hall meetings {Craig}He joined with Bush over the Border issue
Thanks FGS.
We really need this in Texas.
Music to my ears! We don't have to tolerate this crap. We can walk. The world will notice if they try to shoot us. (the world will also notice us shooting back if they do!)
Ted Turner, founder of CNN, is a resident of Montana...
Add me to the list, please.
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