Posted on 02/05/2009 10:20:36 PM PST by garyhope
It's too easy to find buried weapons with metal detectors and other toys (and they would look).
Find a wall that has noticeable plumbing running through it and fashion a not too obvious panel to access some of the dead space in the wall along the pipes.
Got a basement or crawl space and forced air heating? Buy some duct material and run a dummy line that vanishes into the flooring or a wall. Create an non-obvious access panel to the hollow duct work.
Good idea, have you been working on this long? That is why I love FR, you guys keep me from being six steps behind.
But..... you missed my point. The time to hide is the time to FIGHT!
"Actually, according to my friends in the SpecOps community, it ain't all that difficult to effectively bury a weapons cache if you do so correctly."
That's right! Bury them on your neighbor's property. :)
"But..... you missed my point. The time to hide is the time to FIGHT! "
Essentially, that's true. However, since practitioners of the Second Amendment practically live in fear of the government one day confiscating rightfully owns arms, the time to fight and fight hard has passed by. We shouldn't even be at this point where someone dares to diminish the Second Amendment. We need to take a more proactive approach rather than a reactive approach or we will forever be where we currently are... on the trailing edge in the defense of our rights.
The "powers that be" know this and one day, push will come to shove and they will come knocking at the door to confiscate the arms you once had a right to own and use. Since our brain-washed neighbors won't defend us, it will be a losing battle against even a local government that is likely more well armed than we are.
The time to turn this around was yesterday. It's still not too late yet, but time will be running out with the usurper in charge running the show.
If one is looking to invest in something solid and meaningful during rough economic times as these, the best investment is in those who help defend our rights. For if we lose our rights, everything else is mute. I contribute what I can, when I can to the NRA, Free Republic and other conservative national and local groups and entities involved in the good fight to protect our rights.
I know nothing.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
GOA, SAS, JPFO, other groups are much more deserving of our donations, and they won't whiz on our legs and tell us it's raining.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I understand what you’re saying, and I sympathize; however, I suspect that if you allow yourself to lose sleep over what the loonies in government MIGHT do, or WANT to do, you’ll become very exhausted. There are a lot of loonies in Washington.
Politically speaking, you're correct. But when ideology meets action armed conflicts are often borne and the blood is quite real.
We shouldn't even be at this point where someone dares to diminish the Second Amendment. We need to take a more proactive approach rather than a reactive approach or we will forever be where we currently are... on the trailing edge in the defense of our rights.
Again, I agree, but it is the unfortunate fact that when dealing with political threats to freedom, our electorate will ignore the issue until it's biting them in the A$$. This is exactly what happened with the 1994 AWB. The Dems have a short memory, too. They forget the ultimate result of that was a reversion of power to the Republicans for the first time in 40 years. Now they are rationalizing that the defeat in 1994 wasn't really the guns, it was something else....
The "powers that be" know this and one day, push will come to shove and they will come knocking at the door to confiscate the arms you once had a right to own and use..... it will be a losing battle against even a local government that is likely more well armed than we are.
Possibly, but remember today's law enforcement by and large are products of the public schools and they remember the programming that in and of themselves firearms are EVIL. You ever see a new cop on the firing line? A lot of them handle their weapon like it's a snake that's about to bite 'em! Given the budget cuts, most don't get proper ammo to train with and even then, most aren't allowed dynamic movements in qualifying. They shoot at static targets under a time limit and the results are not scored for accuracy. It's strictly pass/fail for reasons of legal liability. A poorly trained and equipped cop isn't going to be the most confident critter ready and willing to charge into the muzzles of a dedicated and righteous adversary. Especially if the fifth team is on the line knowing the first four were wiped out....
All in all, run of the mill street cops tend (not always, but mostly) to be lousy shots. Look how much ammo they expended recently in NYC inside that apartment where something like 40 shots were fired with only five hits and none of those instantly fatal. The folks to watch out for are the special squads like the "warrant squads," "SWAT Teams" and specialized tactical teams that are formed to deal with specific crimes for temporary periods, like hunting a serial rapist or whatever. These special squads are different from run of the mill street cops as they represent folks more serious about their work. Better trained and more experienced.
OTOH, while the young rookies fresh with the academy will be more likely to buy the government line about only the cops having guns and be more than willing to take on a citizen in violation of a ban on gun possession, the old lobos are apt to be more sympathetic to the plight of the law abiding citizen. At least mostly, I believe.
The real wild card in this ugly scenario is of course the veterans amongst the sheep. Personally, the first SWAT team that tries a no-knock raid on the residence of a retired SEAL is in for a surprise, I would think. How many veterans have been discharged or retired from the main combat arms branches (Armor, Infantry, Artillery, Air Defense Artillery and Special Operations) since say the Korean War? How many special operations guys won't wait for the no-knock raid to take the war to the enemy? How many police chiefs and antigun mayors are going to panic as their numbers decline....
I'm not saying it's going to be a walk in the park. I'm not even saying the good guys are going to win in the long run. I'm just saying that your scenario is far from being a foregone conclusion and an easy "fix" for the government.
Think of this, too: How many elections are going to take place between initial implementation of a confiscatory ban and finally taking over 100 million lawfully possessed guns off the street? Assume that 90% of Americans will roll over and give up without a whimper. How long will it take to disarm 10 million completely PO'ed armed citizens, many of whom are veterans and combat vets at that?
Does congress think all these people are buying guns and ammo just so they can give them up to the gov’t in a few years?
Oath Keepers.
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