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A Millennia-Long Greenhouse Disaster
Science NOW Daily News ^ | 26 January 2009 | Richard A. Kerr

Posted on 01/28/2009 12:15:11 AM PST by neverdem

Enlarge ImagePicture of globe

Dry so long. Models call for Dust Bowl-like dryness (purples and reds) around the globe and to the end of the millennium.

Credit: S. Solomon et al., PNAS Early Edition (January 2009)

Climate scientists have painted an unpleasant picture of the end of this century if humankind keeps spewing climate-changing gases into the atmosphere. Now they are pointing out that the ill effects won't be going away for a long, long time. The carbon dioxide we're emitting this century is so slow to disappear and climate so slow to respond, they say, that the effects felt in a century or two will be almost as strong 1000 years from now.

The discouraging word comes in a paper published online today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. Climate researcher Susan Solomon of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado, and her colleagues report how they used results from two kinds of climate models--century-scale and millennial-scale--to calculate the climate out to the year 3000. The end results showed how two climate processes work against each other to sustain the peak warming to be seen a century from now until the year 3000: The slow escape of atmospheric carbon dioxide into the deep sea tends to ease the warming in models, the researchers note, but the equally slow drawdown of atmospheric heat into the deep sea tends to compensate for the carbon dioxide loss.

As a result of the counteracting processes, almost all of the warming that could be seen by 2100--1.5°C to 4°C, depending on how much carbon dioxide ends up being emitted--is still there in 3000. "The time constants [of the climate system] are so slow, people have a hard time appreciating how long the climate change persists," says Solomon. A bevy of climate changes would accompany the persistent warming, Solomon and colleagues point out, but they highlight one: drought. Even given a modest 2°C global warming, southwestern North America, eastern South America, and southern Africa would suffer added summer dryness comparable to the dryness of the disastrous American Dust Bowl of the 1930s, but for centuries, not for just a decade or two. Northern Africa, southern Europe, and western Australia would have it twice as bad.

Essentially, irreversible climate change "is not a new idea," notes climate researcher David Archer of the University of Chicago in Illinois, "but it's widely misunderstood." Much of scientists' presentations to the public and policymakers "had made it seem like climate change was a century-scale issue," he says, but this latest work should help correct the misimpression.


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I could not find the title or abstract, let alone Solomon's article. Another modeler, drat.
1 posted on 01/28/2009 12:15:12 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

We now have proof of man made global warming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYlwri2Svgs


2 posted on 01/28/2009 12:27:39 AM PST by Taxbilly
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To: neverdem

The fears of the left are rather hysterical.

As deserts creep northward and toward slightly higher elevations, so do higher amounts of precipitation ahead of them. In other words, as a desert moves into foothills, the valleys and basins of the mountains above tend to get more runoff from higher levels of precipitation. As for plains in wetter climates (e.g., our Midwest), when lower plains become drier, higher plains get wetter. We only need to adapt.

The model also neglects that it’s another product of the slippery slope fallacy. Periods of greater sunspot activity do come and go, as do other periodic changes.


3 posted on 01/28/2009 12:43:52 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Taxbilly

The sun spots did it.


4 posted on 01/28/2009 12:44:25 AM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: neverdem
"Even given a modest 2°C global warming, southwestern North America...would suffer added summer dryness..."

And that wouldn't make a whole lot of difference. ;-)


5 posted on 01/28/2009 12:45:53 AM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: neverdem

6 posted on 01/28/2009 12:53:37 AM PST by KoRn
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To: neverdem

This just came across my desk:

“The Atkinsonville Daily Plantit reports that their climate experts have demented that a 600 degee increase in temperature would be much warmer than it is presently. Dr. Ernest Winebibber said, “Possibly things could go either way, it is all a question of interdimenstional flux and pertubations in ether inhalations locally”.

So far the models have been robust but are home for weekend.”
Written by Joe Greenhouse, Resident Disaster.


7 posted on 01/28/2009 1:13:11 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: verklaring
The sun spots did it.

Nope it was the 65 mustang.

8 posted on 01/28/2009 1:13:46 AM PST by Taxbilly
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To: neverdem

There is no Climate Science, only climate research done by scientists. Atmospheric projections are currently only good for up to 5 to 15 days. Climate research is focused on annual averages, not on monthly of weekly changes. Climate research will be lucky to develop a Climate Science within 100 years.


9 posted on 01/28/2009 2:27:09 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: neverdem; IrishCatholic; Normandy; According2RecentPollsAirIsGood; Fiddlstix; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 01/28/2009 3:17:24 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaNation: Tax cheat sworn in as Treasury Seretary --- you can't make this stuff up !!!)
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To: neverdem

IMHYO They can fix the faulty models and the problem will go away.


11 posted on 01/28/2009 3:41:09 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: neverdem

IMHO They can fix the faulty models and the problem will go away.


12 posted on 01/28/2009 3:41:42 AM PST by chainsaw
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but the equally slow drawdown of atmospheric heat into the deep sea tends to compensate for the carbon dioxide loss.
...no, the slow drawdown of atmospheric heat into the deep sea DOES NOT OCCUR. Period.
13 posted on 01/28/2009 5:32:38 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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