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To: Tolik

“A clear majority of Israelis would instantly hand over the West Bank and its settlements along with Gaza for a real shot at peace with the Arabs”

show me the vote. I don’t believe him.


11 posted on 01/27/2009 4:00:12 PM PST by dervish (Gitmo, coming soon to a neighborhood near you)
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To: dervish

Oh I do. I’ve had some people tell me they would gladly give up their own houses for peace with the Arabs. Of course, it’s not their house that would actually be taken - just someone else’s - but it reflects their real desire of anything-for-peace.

The Israelis scream for peace at all costs, the Arabs scream for victory at all costs. Doesn’t look good.


12 posted on 01/27/2009 5:20:18 PM PST by forkinsocket
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To: dervish

Sharon removed settlements from Gaza. It was painful and not unanimous. Its still painful (as far as I can tell from afar). But that became an accepted reality.

It used to be that the whole idea of a Palestinian state (I mean another one besides Jordan) was taboo and a very minority view. Its now a majority view in Israel - let them have a state and eat it too.

Israel gave up Sinai (with its oil). And Begin who did it is not considered a criminal or idiot, so the country accepted the deal.

I think that if there was a real partner who could deliver on promises of stopping violence, Israeli would do ANY painful thing required (short of return of Arabs into the Israeli proper - that is suicide, and even Meretz and communists do not support that).


15 posted on 01/28/2009 4:55:31 AM PST by Tolik
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