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Holder Clutches At Gun Rights
Examiner.com ^ | 01/25/09 | David Codrea

Posted on 01/25/2009 5:38:40 PM PST by Copernicus

HOLDER:...I think you had asked me earlier about the regulations that I thought might still exist, post-Heller. And I had mentioned, I think, closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent would be something that would be permitted under Heller, and I also think would be good for my law enforcement perspective.

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The Daily David.

It is not too late to push back against the Holder Nomination and keep the 2nd Amendment on the table.

Best regards to all,

1 posted on 01/25/2009 5:38:41 PM PST by Copernicus
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To: Copernicus
We'll be lucky to keep single shot rifles.

Here's the second amendment as explained on Whitehouse.gov

The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms. Link

Note the way they say that the second amendment "GIVES" people their rights. The bill of rights serves to secure our God-given rights from the power of the government. The government doesn't give us any rights.

Yet that is the way the new administration perceives rights. They are something given by the government.

2 posted on 01/25/2009 5:46:11 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Copernicus

Here they go with the “cop killer bullets” issue again. This covers just about any round suited for medium or large game hunting, and some shotgun slugs!


3 posted on 01/25/2009 5:56:10 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Copernicus
If this is true, the day approaches rapidly... Μολὼν λάβε
4 posted on 01/25/2009 6:03:47 PM PST by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)")
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To: Copernicus

“Cop Killer Bullets”

Code for “I have not a shred of understanding of firearms and ballistics, but am perfectly willing and able to use emotional arguments to persuade similarly ignorant people and push my pro-criminal agenda.”


5 posted on 01/25/2009 6:05:57 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck (There's no such thing as "some" freedom of speech)
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To: MediaMole
That's a great catch!

Those clymers are shameful.

6 posted on 01/25/2009 6:07:38 PM PST by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Copernicus
"...the banning of cop-killer bullets..."

Cop Killer Bullets? Talk about playing word games!
Maybe they will ban Child Abuse detachable magazines too!

I would venture to say if one of these bullets did kill an Officer, that bullet has a long history of being arrested and let go many times due a pathetically weak court and criminal corrections system. Its very rare a bullet starts murdering on its first offense, there is usually a long criminal record on these probated, paroled bullets. One common exception is the bullet is an illegal alien, but imagine those bullets will be protected by law.
The 94 semi automatic rifle and standard capacity magazine ban was called a "Crime Bill".
Unfortunately 80% of politicians and 51% of the voting public are stupid enough to go along with it. They will stand and cheer as we loose liberty to government control.

Trouble's a-brew'n

7 posted on 01/25/2009 6:15:17 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: MediaMole
I sent an email to the White House asking for a clarification of the phrase "The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms." I also suggested a correction might be in order.

It will be interesting to read their reply as to what they believe the Second Amendment says and means.

8 posted on 01/25/2009 6:17:50 PM PST by 1_Of_We
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To: Copernicus

bump


9 posted on 01/25/2009 6:19:05 PM PST by VOA
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To: Copernicus

When they say “cop killer bullets” they mean any bullet that can penetrate a vest. Just about any center-fire rifle round is powerful enough to penatrate a vest. So basically, they want to use the “cop killer bullet” angle to ban all rifles - including bolt-action rifles. Maybe they will allow you to own a single-shot .22 rifle but they would like to ban even that.


10 posted on 01/25/2009 6:22:12 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: 1_Of_We

[Crickets chirping]


11 posted on 01/25/2009 6:32:53 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: MediaMole

If you refuse to recognize that rights come from an unappealable Creator, then rights come from (and can be revoked by) an institution of man.


12 posted on 01/25/2009 6:35:02 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: MediaMole
Note the way they say that the second amendment "GIVES" people their rights.

Note the absence of any language that might indicate we have the right to keep said arms.

13 posted on 01/25/2009 6:42:13 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All the oil's in Texas...but all the dipsticks are in Washington, DC.)
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To: MrB
Lets see: Holer was involved in the Branch Davidian massacre, he took the lead on the Elian Gonzalez repatriation raid, he led the pardon team the freed FSLN terrorists (to help Hillary with the NY Puerto Rican vote), he approved the Marc Rich pardon.

My memory isn't as good as it used to be. Can other Freepers add to this? I think there is more.

He is the most spectacularly unqualified (disqualified, really) nominee in my life. He is "Brownie" times 10. He is a nightmare: a leftists, statist with fascist tendencies.

It is unbelievable to me that A.) Obama would nominate him. and B.) The Senate would confirm him.

In the words of the great Mogambo: "We are freaking doomed !!!"

BLOAT

14 posted on 01/25/2009 6:42:15 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: VoiceOfBruck

That about sums it up!


15 posted on 01/25/2009 6:42:40 PM PST by rangerwife
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To: Copernicus

And these dip sticks work for the people...right. Molon Labe


16 posted on 01/25/2009 6:50:33 PM PST by JamesA (He who hesitates is lost.)
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To: Copernicus

So... What we need are Steel-core, phosphorus or sodium sub-core, copper jacketed bullets... they won’t be “cop killer” bullets; because “Civil Security Defense Force Killer Bullets” is a bit unwieldy, we’ll call them “Freedom Bullets!”


17 posted on 01/25/2009 6:51:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Copernicus; Joe Brower
I think you had asked me earlier about the regulations that I thought might still exist, post-Heller. And I had mentioned, I think, closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent would be something that would be permitted...

"gun show loophole" aka private sales.

"cop-killer bullets" aka centerfire hunting calibers.

"assault weapons" aka semi-auto rifles.


18 posted on 01/25/2009 6:52:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

>>Note the way they say that the second amendment “GIVES” people their rights.
>Note the absence of any language that might indicate we have the right to keep said arms.

So, given that, they have just effectively declared war on the citizenry of the US, no?


19 posted on 01/25/2009 6:55:20 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
So, given that, they have just effectively declared war on the citizenry of the US, no?

At this point, it is systemic.

Case in point;
Watch this video from 1/7/09 of Robert Reich and especially Charles Rangel. Watch the whole thing. They have declared war on us and are not trying to hide it any longer.

Explosive Video of Robert Reich and Charles Rangel

20 posted on 01/25/2009 6:59:22 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All the oil's in Texas...but all the dipsticks are in Washington, DC.)
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