Massive dragnet sweeps up communications metadata, and financial records, while targets have all of their communications recordedPosted on 01/24/2009 7:05:25 PM PST by LuxMaker
Massive dragnet sweeps up communications metadata, and financial records, while targets have all of their communications recorded
In a scenario that sounds like the ramblings of a conspiracy theorist, former NSA analyst and now-whistleblower Russell Tice unveiled a massive NSA spying and wiretap program, which he claims vacuumed up an astonishing amount of communications and financial data on journalists and innocent Americans.
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I was wondering the same thing, but thought I was paranoid.
You can be “paranoid” and they can really be out to get you, “they” meaning your enemies. They are not mutually exclusive.
The way I remember it, back in the seventies the NSA was a “black ops” organization all the way. I remember a TV news guy ( Dan Rather ? ) standing along a road with the NSA facility in the background saying that nobody knew what went on there, and that the government didn’t even acknowledge its existence.
This idea that they were beyond any external control was popularly accepted as “spy stuff”, and it was regarded as something of a joke. Of course, things were brought more into the light and constraints were put into place. Then when Bush quibbled over these procedures, he was portrayed as dragging the USA into totalitarianism.
Very old news.
Was told this in 1970.
Been noting it on FR from near the beginning.
Have been derisively dismissed most of the time. LOL.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1555627/posts
This obese psycho has been discussed on FR for years.
If “everyone” is under surveillance, why didn’t the NSA know Tice would say this stuff and shut him up before he did so?
Not only an inordinate amount of time but an impossible number of people to do the monitoring and an impossibly sized database to store the data. There is not the time, money, data storage or people to monitor even one tenth of the U.S. population. The best they can do is to screen as much data as possible and then keep the ones that match the key words and phrases for a further look. Anything that does not make the first or second cut flows into the bit bucket.
Oh, none? How strange.
yep and SS colo in the CO
ANother defensive effort that will be shut down....it’s going to be like the mid-70S and Watergate, Church and the CIA all over again, on steroids...except this time the terrorists and our other enemies are much more dangerous. Nukes, bio, chemical, cyber....
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LOL!
Yeah, most who worry are probably those who say the least important, least interesting, and most boring things that know one would want to hear anyway.
Most folks who think this really must think they are far more important than they really are.
You have to wonder how much it would devastate them to know no one really cares. Therefor they must be democrats.
Why is it dismissed (fired) FedGov employees become
wistle blowers”?
I thought the correct term was “disgruntled ex-employye”
This guy is full of crap.
When one end of your phone conversation is outside the USA, you have NO expectation of privacy. That other country’s security service or others could be listening.
Fore warned, fore armed. You speak, you take your chances.
It’s NOT illegal to listen to that conversation.
Did you also miss this weeks news that the FISA Court of Appeals upheld that all the BS the loonie left said was illegal, is in reality LEGAL.
While Soldiers Died, The Left Lied. To help the enemy.
In December, 2005, Tice helped spark a national controversy over claims that the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional wiretaps on American citizens. He later admitted that he was one of the sources that were used in the New York Times’ reporting on the wiretap activity in December 2005.
Tice was ordered to undertake a psychological evaluation, which he believed was retaliatory. The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia.
When one end of your phone conversation is outside the USA, you have NO expectation of privacy. That other country’s security service or others could be listening.
They are monitoring all communication, not just communication to/from other countries. From the article:
“It didn't matter whether you were in Kansas, in the middle of the country, and you never made foreign communications at all. They monitored all communications.”
Tice is one of Keith Olbermann’s favorite guests.
They are on the same brain wave length...no signal.
Sorry to be late replying. See post #25.
Old news. It was mentioned in the book The Codebreakers published back in the 1970s.
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Thank goodness someone is finally starting to draw this distinction.